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Offline dflee

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Got a chance to try out a new cable
« on: November 15, 2020, 12:59:43 PM »
Met Jason from another site and got a chance to try his concoction.
Sat down and wrote this. Hope you enjoy:
 
                                                         Quiescence Cable
                                                                  Review

To start, this adventure was enjoyable and I thank Jason, founder of Hapa Audio, for allowing me to try out his creation in my humble system.
If youíre familiar with AudioCircle then you probably have read Jasonís (Pez) critiques during RMAF of the systems on display and you can get a feel for his taste in audio. I followed along every year as he and Tyson journeyed the corridors of equipment (the gauntlet of sound) and enjoyed their comments and pictures. With that in mind I took Jason up on his offer to try out his Quiescence cable.
I have been invited to friendís homes before to listen to their systems after installing a new piece of the puzzle that they wanted to share and not once did I inquire as to the price as a determining factor to go. With that in mind I wanted to approach this review in the same manner in which I wanted the cable to stand on its own merits. I asked a good friend of mine to look at Hapa Audioís Web site to see if I could get information on Quiescence (ďQĒ from here on out) cable without seeing the price tag. He informed me that the site was set up nicely, easy to read and the price was attached. Through contact with Jason, I was provided with the information on the cable with no pricing. The read up on Q is interesting. Not being an expert in cable design, I asked a friend knowledgeable in that field and he concurred that the design approach is solid and a good one to use.
Upon inquiring about Q, Jason sent me what he had on hand which was a 1.5m set and had approximately 70 hours on them so I knew when I got them it would require some break in time since Jason said it would take about 200. They arrived in a nice package double boxed with the logo on the inner box. The cables are in a nicely built bag with their logo. Taking them out a couple of things caught me, first was the construction which is top notch and very attractive and second was the KLE Harmony connectors. Even the shrink wrap is quite nice. The Hapa logo on the cable also serves as a directional marker thus making them (duh) directional. So far Iím impressed with things.
I have my system set up as a stereo everything. Through my pre (Accuphase C11) runs the cable box, Carousel cdp (Denon), blue tooth (esinkin) and D/A converter (Musical Fidelity M1). The amplifier is a Cambridge Azur 851W, speakers are Legacy Classic (ported) and cdp is a Musical Fidelity MCD. Cables connecting pertinent components and speakers together are Triode Wire Labs digital, analog (Spirit 2) and American speaker wire and jumpers.
I placed Q between the pre and amp for break in purposes since my wife would be using it with her audio books or listening to music through the Samsung pad or listening to television or listening to music. Things through the esinkin werenít noticeable as to what Q was doing as far as break in but I did notice right off the bat that the cable box sounded better than Iíve heard before. I found I didnít have to turn the volume up to the usual level to understand vocals. They were clear with no glare and very pleasing to listen to. My objective was to put the cable between the dac and pre for critiquing once broke in but of course had to try a cd out before changing (curiosity got the best of me). Sound was clean, clear with decent slam with great lows and highs without any sibilance in the upper region.  Got the hours logged, check, changed out to dac, check, right direction, check. Let it run on repeat for a day to settle without listening to them. Ok, I did listen to a song while settling was going on. Shouldnít of done that. The song was Starship Trooper (Yes) and was blown away. Stayed away till the following day and was jonesing to get going with the music. I had the Yes album because it is a heck of a ride for equipment and a fantastic album in many ways. Through the wrong equipment while sounding huge, you lose the intricate sound of the actual instruments with all the effects and John Andersons voice. Q delivered the guitar through the effects better than anything Iíve ever heard and Iíd be willing to say Iíve listened to that album many hundreds of times. The keyboard, bass and drum were delivered with an authority I wasnít prepared for. I was hearing the slam and precision that silver brings to the table. This was interesting cause unlike the silver cable of yore there was just nice clean sound with a dead silent background.  Then a funny thing happened after about 20 to 30 hours in. The sound got lean in a way that while the bass and drum were still there they lost some of their authority. Certain instruments lost the three dimensional sound I was hearing and so I put an additional 30 hours break in and sat down for my next session. The additional hours brought a big difference in the sound from the first listen. Kinda threw me because both low and high frequencies were now back with a sound I hadnít heard before. The cable now had the precision and three D of the instruments but with a kinder and more gentle hand. Nothing stood out from the sound but all became a part of the sound while maintaining the separation and liveliness.
Until this point I have felt that the Auteur (ZMF headphone) kept up pretty well with my speakers in sound stage and depth while beating them out for detail. The detail didnít change but Q gave my speakers a soundstage that the Auteur just could not duplicate. I was taken a little aback at this revelation. Never had a cable produce a package like this.
This cable is like no other Iíve had in my system and the only thing I can fault it for is the slight loss of instrument body which is made up for in Qís precision. If I didnít have a cable that exceeds in that area I probably wouldnít have even missed it.
Finally went to the web site to see what weíre talkin price wise for this piece of equipment and found the site done quite well. Put together the length and connection option sent to me and found what I have been listening isn't quite within my price range. I thank Jason for allowing me to critique an incredible cable that sounds fantastic on every genre of music I played and while I do not require 1.5M it didnít hurt. I am regretting sending Q back home. The cable is the best Iíve had in my system and I will be ordering one soon. I canít say enough about Qís ability in black background, depth and precision of sound.

Don Fleenor

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Re: Got a chance to try out a new cable
« Reply #1 on: November 16, 2020, 07:15:56 PM »
I also got to spent a week with that cable, and found it to be about equal to my WyWires Silver interconnects.  It's an excellent product.   But alas, he's priced it beyond what I was willing to spend  :(   Perhaps they will be popular enough to show up on the used market in a few years.
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Re: Got a chance to try out a new cable
« Reply #2 on: November 16, 2020, 08:32:20 PM »
Met Jason from another site and got a chance to try his concoction.
Sat down and wrote this. Hope you enjoy:
 
                                                         Quiescence Cable
                                                                  Review

To start, this adventure was enjoyable and I thank Jason, founder of Hapa Audio, for allowing me to try out his creation in my humble system.
If youíre familiar with AudioCircle then you probably have read Jasonís (Pez) critiques during RMAF of the systems on display and you can get a feel for his taste in audio. I followed along every year as he and Tyson journeyed the corridors of equipment (the gauntlet of sound) and enjoyed their comments and pictures. With that in mind I took Jason up on his offer to try out his Quiescence cable.
I have been invited to friendís homes before to listen to their systems after installing a new piece of the puzzle that they wanted to share and not once did I inquire as to the price as a determining factor to go. With that in mind I wanted to approach this review in the same manner in which I wanted the cable to stand on its own merits. I asked a good friend of mine to look at Hapa Audioís Web site to see if I could get information on Quiescence (ďQĒ from here on out) cable without seeing the price tag. He informed me that the site was set up nicely, easy to read and the price was attached. Through contact with Jason, I was provided with the information on the cable with no pricing. The read up on Q is interesting. Not being an expert in cable design, I asked a friend knowledgeable in that field and he concurred that the design approach is solid and a good one to use.
Upon inquiring about Q, Jason sent me what he had on hand which was a 1.5m set and had approximately 70 hours on them so I knew when I got them it would require some break in time since Jason said it would take about 200. They arrived in a nice package double boxed with the logo on the inner box. The cables are in a nicely built bag with their logo. Taking them out a couple of things caught me, first was the construction which is top notch and very attractive and second was the KLE Harmony connectors. Even the shrink wrap is quite nice. The Hapa logo on the cable also serves as a directional marker thus making them (duh) directional. So far Iím impressed with things.
I have my system set up as a stereo everything. Through my pre (Accuphase C11) runs the cable box, Carousel cdp (Denon), blue tooth (esinkin) and D/A converter (Musical Fidelity M1). The amplifier is a Cambridge Azur 851W, speakers are Legacy Classic (ported) and cdp is a Musical Fidelity MCD. Cables connecting pertinent components and speakers together are Triode Wire Labs digital, analog (Spirit 2) and American speaker wire and jumpers.
I placed Q between the pre and amp for break in purposes since my wife would be using it with her audio books or listening to music through the Samsung pad or listening to television or listening to music. Things through the esinkin werenít noticeable as to what Q was doing as far as break in but I did notice right off the bat that the cable box sounded better than Iíve heard before. I found I didnít have to turn the volume up to the usual level to understand vocals. They were clear with no glare and very pleasing to listen to. My objective was to put the cable between the dac and pre for critiquing once broke in but of course had to try a cd out before changing (curiosity got the best of me). Sound was clean, clear with decent slam with great lows and highs without any sibilance in the upper region.  Got the hours logged, check, changed out to dac, check, right direction, check. Let it run on repeat for a day to settle without listening to them. Ok, I did listen to a song while settling was going on. Shouldnít of done that. The song was Starship Trooper (Yes) and was blown away. Stayed away till the following day and was jonesing to get going with the music. I had the Yes album because it is a heck of a ride for equipment and a fantastic album in many ways. Through the wrong equipment while sounding huge, you lose the intricate sound of the actual instruments with all the effects and John Andersons voice. Q delivered the guitar through the effects better than anything Iíve ever heard and Iíd be willing to say Iíve listened to that album many hundreds of times. The keyboard, bass and drum were delivered with an authority I wasnít prepared for. I was hearing the slam and precision that silver brings to the table. This was interesting cause unlike the silver cable of yore there was just nice clean sound with a dead silent background.  Then a funny thing happened after about 20 to 30 hours in. The sound got lean in a way that while the bass and drum were still there they lost some of their authority. Certain instruments lost the three dimensional sound I was hearing and so I put an additional 30 hours break in and sat down for my next session. The additional hours brought a big difference in the sound from the first listen. Kinda threw me because both low and high frequencies were now back with a sound I hadnít heard before. The cable now had the precision and three D of the instruments but with a kinder and more gentle hand. Nothing stood out from the sound but all became a part of the sound while maintaining the separation and liveliness.
Until this point I have felt that the Auteur (ZMF headphone) kept up pretty well with my speakers in sound stage and depth while beating them out for detail. The detail didnít change but Q gave my speakers a soundstage that the Auteur just could not duplicate. I was taken a little aback at this revelation. Never had a cable produce a package like this.
This cable is like no other Iíve had in my system and the only thing I can fault it for is the slight loss of instrument body which is made up for in Qís precision. If I didnít have a cable that exceeds in that area I probably wouldnít have even missed it.
Finally went to the web site to see what weíre talkin price wise for this piece of equipment and found the site done quite well. Put together the length and connection option sent to me and found what I have been listening isn't quite within my price range. I thank Jason for allowing me to critique an incredible cable that sounds fantastic on every genre of music I played and while I do not require 1.5M it didnít hurt. I am regretting sending Q back home. The cable is the best Iíve had in my system and I will be ordering one soon. I canít say enough about Qís ability in black background, depth and precision of sound.

Don Fleenor

Thanks for the detailed review, Don. Glad those cables work so well in your system. I was aware of Jasonís new company...and the pricing... as I check in to visit AC occasionally. I also enjoy his comments at RMAF.

I havenít tried that many cables over the years (8 - 10 brands?) and most didnít make much of a difference until I tried the Audio Envy cables. Theyíre excellent/superb, especially for the money. I use the complete loom.

Good luck on your cable adventure!
Nick
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Audio Hungary APR 204 preamp
Fritz Carrera 7 BE speakers
Border Patrol SEi dac
Auralic Aries Mini & Mojo Audio lps
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Re: Got a chance to try out a new cable
« Reply #3 on: November 17, 2020, 10:55:58 AM »
Jason (Pez) is a good guy.  He was always funny and direct at RMAF.  Honest and capable reviewer.

I have read about his cables and consider his approach to cabling to be quite different and innovative.  I have built many interconnects over the years and have found cables made from small gauge enameled magnet wire to be very good.  The ones that I use are made from 30ga (0.01"), similar to what he is mentioning in size (he uses 32ga - 0.008" in diameter).  Great separation, detail and image specificity. 
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Re: Got a chance to try out a new cable
« Reply #4 on: November 17, 2020, 06:47:11 PM »
I think his choice of KLE connectors bumps it up there.
This is my first experience with silver interconnect and if
this is a taste of what silver brings to the table than I am impressed.

Don

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Re: Got a chance to try out a new cable
« Reply #5 on: November 19, 2020, 04:29:56 PM »
I think his choice of KLE connectors bumps it up there.
This is my first experience with silver interconnect and if
this is a taste of what silver brings to the table than I am impressed.

Don
Yeah, those are my choice, too.  I have long been a proponent of low mass connectors.  Even the old folded brass Rat Snack 10/$2.00 could sound good if properly used.  Stripping off the tin plating and flashing them with gold or silver plate worked very well.It is my opinion that high mass RCA connectors have too many issues to make them a good choice.  Even making some out of K&S copper tubing can work really, really good.
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