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Offline dBe

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P.I. audio group power conditioning thread...
« on: November 30, 2019, 10:14:56 AM »
Tom Mallin is a customer of mine.  He has a dedicated niche in the Whatís Best forum and is a prolific writer.  His BUSS experience thread is a treatise on his experiences with the UberBUSS And the BUSS-Stop.  It is an interesting read and Iím quite pleased with his findings.

If you are interested:

https://www.whatsbestforum.com/threads/my-clean-power-adventures.28053/

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Re: P.I. audio group power conditioning thread...
« Reply #1 on: November 30, 2019, 11:44:07 AM »
Tom Mallin is a customer of mine.  He has a dedicated niche in the Whatís Best forum and is a prolific writer.  His BUSS experience thread is a treatise on his experiences with the UberBUSS And the BUSS-Stop.  It is an interesting read and Iím quite pleased with his findings.

If you are interested:

https://www.whatsbestforum.com/threads/my-clean-power-adventures.28053/

He sure is! That's all the feedback one could ask for I imagine.

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Re: P.I. audio group power conditioning thread...
« Reply #2 on: November 30, 2019, 06:21:17 PM »
Congrats, Dave!
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Re: P.I. audio group power conditioning thread...
« Reply #3 on: December 01, 2019, 03:12:59 PM »
Tom Mallin is a customer of mine.  He has a dedicated niche in the Whatís Best forum and is a prolific writer.  His BUSS experience thread is a treatise on his experiences with the UberBUSS And the BUSS-Stop.  It is an interesting read and Iím quite pleased with his findings.

If you are interested:

https://www.whatsbestforum.com/threads/my-clean-power-adventures.28053/

Thank you, Dave. Thatís a very thoughtful and informative read from Tom and very much appreciated. I hope to have your latest AC outlet installed by the contractor this Tuesday.
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Re: P.I. audio group power conditioning thread...
« Reply #4 on: December 01, 2019, 09:10:14 PM »
 
Tom Mallin is a customer of mine.  He has a dedicated niche in the Whatís Best forum and is a prolific writer.  His BUSS experience thread is a treatise on his experiences with the UberBUSS And the BUSS-Stop.  It is an interesting read and Iím quite pleased with his findings.

If you are interested:

https://www.whatsbestforum.com/threads/my-clean-power-adventures.28053/

Thank you, Dave. Thatís a very thoughtful and informative read from Tom and very much appreciated. I hope to have your latest AC outlet installed by the contractor this Tuesday.
Nick
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Re: P.I. audio group power conditioning thread...
« Reply #5 on: January 16, 2020, 07:56:02 AM »
  Good to read about someone who agrees. For years I have been advising to separate Digital from Analog with dedicated lines as described. Adding an UBER on each line further improves the Sound. Then adding that Buss Depot is the icing on the cake. I use [4] dedicated lines all conditioned. At least change your receptacles.

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Re: P.I. audio group power conditioning thread...
« Reply #6 on: January 16, 2020, 11:26:43 AM »
i've not gone that extreme, but i have definitely gotten improved sonics from plugging my dac, transport and preamp into separate isolation transformers...

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  Good to read about someone who agrees. For years I have been advising to separate Digital from Analog with dedicated lines as described. Adding an UBER on each line further improves the Sound. Then adding that Buss Depot is the icing on the cake. I use [4] dedicated lines all conditioned. At least change your receptacles.

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Re: P.I. audio group power conditioning thread...
« Reply #7 on: January 16, 2020, 05:09:47 PM »
I am vacationing. When I get home, Iíll be installing the new receptacles in my Uber 👍
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Re: P.I. audio group power conditioning thread...
« Reply #8 on: January 17, 2020, 08:26:47 AM »
i've not gone that extreme, but i have definitely gotten improved sonics from plugging my dac, transport and preamp into separate isolation transformers...

doug s.
  Good to read about someone who agrees. For years I have been advising to separate Digital from Analog with dedicated lines as described. Adding an UBER on each line further improves the Sound. Then adding that Buss Depot is the icing on the cake. I use [4] dedicated lines all conditioned. At least change your receptacles.

charles

   Do not Isolation transformers lift the ground ?

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Re: P.I. audio group power conditioning thread...
« Reply #9 on: January 17, 2020, 08:29:56 AM »
i suspect those w/3-pronged plugs and outlets don't, but i'm not the expert.

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i've not gone that extreme, but i have definitely gotten improved sonics from plugging my dac, transport and preamp into separate isolation transformers...

doug s.
   Do not Isolation transformers lift the ground ?

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Re: P.I. audio group power conditioning thread...
« Reply #10 on: January 17, 2020, 09:57:16 AM »
i suspect those w/3-pronged plugs and outlets don't, but i'm not the expert.

doug s.
i've not gone that extreme, but i have definitely gotten improved sonics from plugging my dac, transport and preamp into separate isolation transformers...

doug s.
   Do not Isolation transformers lift the ground ?

charles

   They have a three prong plug however I believe the ground is lifted internally. Oh Dave help us out here.


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Re: P.I. audio group power conditioning thread...
« Reply #11 on: January 17, 2020, 10:07:03 AM »
Some Isolation transformers are floating output with a case wire to ground.

Others are 60v-0v-60v where the center tap of the output  is ground. 

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Re: P.I. audio group power conditioning thread...
« Reply #12 on: January 17, 2020, 10:42:03 AM »
  Thank you Mad Scientist. :thumb:


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Re: P.I. audio group power conditioning thread...
« Reply #13 on: January 17, 2020, 12:37:21 PM »
Some Isolation transformers are floating output with a case wire to ground.

Others are 60v-0v-60v where the center tap of the output  is ground.

60/0/60 are balanced transformers.

The ground incoming to the transformer is often tied to the center tap. Maybe always, I haven't seen the inside of more than a few.

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Re: P.I. audio group power conditioning thread...
« Reply #14 on: January 17, 2020, 03:03:23 PM »
Yes, and from what I read, now no longer supported by the electrical code for home use. 

I have an old Equi=Tech 2KVA balanced output unit that worked well before it died.  Very quiet system with it.