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Offline Nick B

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Re: WHY and What are you Listening to?
« Reply #60 on: February 14, 2020, 10:05:14 AM »
That's good stuff, Dave!

Nick, Erica Morini does a version of the Tchaikovsky Violin Concerto on the Westminster label that is top notch, and it's on you tube.  I don't think there is a stereo version, but it will give you an idea of what she can do (and give you a reason to put together a mono vinyl rig!)

I did find it. Beautifully played and I looked up the word “trill”. It appears that the trill is a bit of artistic license by the performer and the music is not written that way. Is that correct?
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Re: WHY and What are you Listening to?
« Reply #61 on: February 14, 2020, 11:44:12 AM »
A trill is often written into the score.  I remember my Bach preludes had lots of trills written in... it's a zig zag line, much like a resistor symbol.


The trill is the first zig zag, the mordent is the one with the line through it.
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Re: WHY and What are you Listening to?
« Reply #62 on: February 14, 2020, 05:09:41 PM »
A trill is often written into the score.  I remember my Bach preludes had lots of trills written in... it's a zig zag line, much like a resistor symbol.


The trill is the first zig zag, the mordent is the one with the line through it.

Thanks, Scott. I’m getting quite an education on this site. I also just looked up the term mordent. It seems you may be a musician. If so, can you advise what instrument(s)? Also, if others are musicians, it would be fun to know that as well.
As to Morini’s trill technique, are you able to explain this or does one need to hear it to fully appreciate it? If true, it’s fascinating that Heifetz couldn’t reproduce her technique.
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Re: WHY and What are you Listening to?
« Reply #63 on: February 14, 2020, 05:37:38 PM »
Great thread Scott, thank you. Just ran across this.
I've been scarce with audio forums recently, but look forward to pursuing this thread.
No doubt I've got something to offer, based on the requirements on post #1, but let me catch up first.....
Love threads like these!

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Re: WHY and What are you Listening to?
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Re: WHY and What are you Listening to?
« Reply #65 on: February 14, 2020, 08:15:19 PM »
A trill is often written into the score.  I remember my Bach preludes had lots of trills written in... it's a zig zag line, much like a resistor symbol.


The trill is the first zig zag, the mordent is the one with the line through it.

Thanks, Scott. I’m getting quite an education on this site. I also just looked up the term mordent. It seems you may be a musician. If so, can you advise what instrument(s)? Also, if others are musicians, it would be fun to know that as well.
As to Morini’s trill technique, are you able to explain this or does one need to hear it to fully appreciate it? If true, it’s fascinating that Heifetz couldn’t reproduce her technique.
Nick
If you look at the music, the note on the top line with the trill and mordent notation is what's on the sheet, but the notes in the bottom line is how it's played.  A trill plays the main note, the note above, and the main note again in the time allowed for the single note.  The mordent plays the main note, the note below, and the main note again in the time allowed for the single note.  If that doesn't make sense, see the video.
Yep, I played piano for several years before girls and football distracted me to other endeavors.   Here's a slightly verbose explanation of a mordent and a trill

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RM1Kzb1tmHQ

Dave, that's a great video... but anything with Keb Mo gets my approval.
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Re: WHY and What are you Listening to?
« Reply #66 on: February 14, 2020, 08:52:25 PM »
A trill is often written into the score.  I remember my Bach preludes had lots of trills written in... it's a zig zag line, much like a resistor symbol.


The trill is the first zig zag, the mordent is the one with the line through it.

Thanks, Scott. I’m getting quite an education on this site. I also just looked up the term mordent. It seems you may be a musician. If so, can you advise what instrument(s)? Also, if others are musicians, it would be fun to know that as well.
As to Morini’s trill technique, are you able to explain this or does one need to hear it to fully appreciate it? If true, it’s fascinating that Heifetz couldn’t reproduce her technique.
Nick
Yep, I played piano for several years before girls and football distracted me to other endeavors.   Here's a slightly verbose explanation of a mordent and a trill

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RM1Kzb1tmHQ

Dave, that's a great video... but anything with Keb Mo gets my approval.

Very helpful to actually hear demonstrated. Interesting also to learn about ornaments, upper and lower mordants, diatronic trills, etc. Thx
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