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Online S Clark

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Bending a cantileveer
« on: August 15, 2019, 11:10:59 PM »
I just picked up a Dynavector 20x2L with a gradually bent cantilever.  Using toothpicks and a dissecting microscope, I was able to get it close to straight.  Anyone else had any luck bending an aluminum cantilever?
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Re: Bending a cantileveer
« Reply #1 on: August 15, 2019, 11:49:07 PM »
Bending yes. Bending without severing, no :rofl:

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Re: Bending a cantileveer
« Reply #2 on: August 23, 2019, 11:23:14 AM »
  " All the Kings Horses all the Kings Men" Remember Humpty Dumpty ?? Get it repaired. Can you say Soundsmith ?

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Re: Bending a cantileveer
« Reply #3 on: August 23, 2019, 03:38:53 PM »
It's already in the hands of a pro.  I've decided to use one of the services other than Soundsmith.  If it works out, I'll post a review.
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Re: Bending a cantileveer
« Reply #4 on: August 23, 2019, 04:30:22 PM »
It's already in the hands of a pro.  I've decided to use one of the services other than Soundsmith.  If it works out, I'll post a review.

Hmmmmm........
I'm guessing either Andy Kim (Needle Clinic) on the west coast or Steve Leung at VAS in NJ.      :-k
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Re: Bending a cantileveer
« Reply #5 on: August 23, 2019, 06:46:30 PM »
It's already in the hands of a pro.  I've decided to use one of the services other than Soundsmith.  If it works out, I'll post a review.

Hmmmmm........
I'm guessing either Andy Kim (Needle Clinic) on the west coast or Steve Leung at VAS in NJ.      :-k
Well, like I said, when it comes back and I'm pleased, I'll post something.  If I not pleased, I'll keep my mouth shut except in PM.  But it's an experienced repair service.  Except for my attempt at repair.  That was my second attempt, first one successful, second not so much. 
“But I don't want to go among mad people,” Alice remarked. “Oh, you can't help that,” said the Cat: “we're all mad here. I'm mad. You're mad.”
Gear: a bunch of second hand stuff and kits.
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Re: Bending a cantileveer
« Reply #6 on: August 23, 2019, 10:24:24 PM »
I've had several SoundSmith re-tips, been satisfied with them all.

Always curious about the work of the other two.  I read positive comments on both, but no personal experience.

BTW, I owned the 20x2L and loved it.  Got an xx2 and sold the 20x2L to a local buddy and I think it sounds even better in his rig than in mine.  I think it's a really good well rounded cart that does just about everything well and little wrong.
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Re: Bending a cantileveer
« Reply #7 on: August 24, 2019, 06:00:52 AM »
Peter L at Soundsmith had done the ruby cantilever and stylus on the Blackbird that I recently broke.  I had used it for a couple of years, and it played well, but to be honest, the cantilever was not completely straight out of the suspension.   On the Dyna 20x2L I picked up, I got the cantilever somewhat straight, but not good enough.  Several years back I picked up a Denon 102 mono that had a stylus and cantilever mounted offset at about 2 o'clock.  On that one, I twisted the cantilever back to close to straight, which seemed to work for mono.   All three are sent off on a quantity deal. 
“But I don't want to go among mad people,” Alice remarked. “Oh, you can't help that,” said the Cat: “we're all mad here. I'm mad. You're mad.”
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Re: Bending a cantileveer
« Reply #8 on: August 24, 2019, 11:19:02 AM »
I am sitting with a Micro Benz Ruby and Linn Archiv cart. Worth getting retipped by Soundsmith ? Maybe just sell as is minus repair cost. Thoughts ???

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Re: Bending a cantileveer
« Reply #9 on: September 07, 2019, 05:39:24 PM »
I am sitting with a Micro Benz Ruby and Linn Archiv cart. Worth getting retipped by Soundsmith ? Maybe just sell as is minus repair cost. Thoughts ???

charles

Personally, I like picking up broken cartridges and getting them retipped.  Otherwise you are subject to the old  "It's only got 50-100 hours" sales pitch... and you better know your seller really well.  Retip yourself, and you know you've got no wear. 
So, I think buying a broken cart is the better deal.  I"ll have about $600 in the Dyna 20x2L.  I think I gave about $500 for my other Dyna 20x2L used, with no real idea how much use it had.
It will be interesting to see how the Blackbird sounds.  They come with an improved elliptical, but it's coming back with a Microridge.  I'm hoping for a step up in clarity. 
“But I don't want to go among mad people,” Alice remarked. “Oh, you can't help that,” said the Cat: “we're all mad here. I'm mad. You're mad.”
Gear: a bunch of second hand stuff and kits.
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Bending a cantileveer
« Reply #10 on: September 07, 2019, 07:24:17 PM »
Hi all.
One time I did business with Soudsmith and was satisafied.
My Rega Exact stylus was missing, probably when I wrap-it in bubble sheet,
well, the whole arm with cartride without the cover to protect the needle and cartridge
was wrpped...
My fault, so I paid for my mistake.
If I remember well, it cost me 300 USD... OUCH !
Soundsmith installed a new canterlever and diamond.
Now, the cartridge doesn't have more than 20 hours on it
and it was carefully packed and ready to go,
to Canada that is.
Then I will rip all my vinyl (About 80) and sell the Rega P3 turntable
with the Exact cartridge.
I still have a Sony El Cheapo automatic turntable in case in want
to spin some vinyl.

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Re: Bending a cantileveer
« Reply #11 on: September 15, 2019, 08:22:24 PM »
Got my cartridges back from Steve Leung at VAS Audio.  All three cantilevers are straight as an arrow, and I've mounted the Blackbird and have it playing. 
So far, so good.  Both the Dynavector 20x2L and the Blackbird have Al cantilevers with Micro Ridge styli.  The Denon 12 with a twisted cantilever is now dead center. 

Price was reasonable , and he offered a discount for more than one.
Communication was fast and easy.
Turnaround was about 3 weeks.
Steve even picked up the return postage without my asking.    I hope I don't have to, but I'll probably use him again. 
Recommended highly.   :thumb:
« Last Edit: September 15, 2019, 09:30:43 PM by S Clark »
“But I don't want to go among mad people,” Alice remarked. “Oh, you can't help that,” said the Cat: “we're all mad here. I'm mad. You're mad.”
Gear: a bunch of second hand stuff and kits.
Dodd,GR,Moscode,Folsom,Vyger,Victor,Sumiko,Dynavector,Wywires,TWL

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Re: Bending a cantileveer
« Reply #12 on: September 15, 2019, 10:21:21 PM »
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