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Offline Bob in St. Louis

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Re: The Pains of Computer Audio
« Reply #30 on: September 19, 2018, 10:34:30 AM »
And all these years everybody has been breaking my chops about the rituals related to cleaning records being to inconvenient and time consuming????????   :roll:
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Re: The Pains of Computer Audio
« Reply #31 on: September 19, 2018, 11:05:37 AM »
And all these years everybody has been breaking my chops about the rituals related to cleaning records being to inconvenient and time consuming????????   :roll:
:rofl:  :rofl:  :rofl:  :rofl:
The tables have turned.

I don't know Bob, my table has never stopped turning.  8)
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Re: The Pains of Computer Audio
« Reply #32 on: September 19, 2018, 11:08:41 AM »
And all these years everybody has been breaking my chops about the rituals related to cleaning records being to inconvenient and time consuming????????   :roll:

Your ritual is still painful and inconvenient. No thank you  :-P.

I do not have a ritual at all.  The only ritual that I have is power the DAC on (the amp and preamp stay on), grab the tablet/phone select music and hit play.  I have not mucked around with my setup for close to 18 months outside of making sure everything is patched both under Windows and Linux environment in automated fashion.  Patches get installed and system gets rebooted automatically every 6 weeks or so.

I am willing to give up bit of sound quality to keep my systems up and running in secure manner.  Even though they are dedicated for music only, god forbid I am not paying attention and use the system to browse  :duh

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Re: The Pains of Computer Audio
« Reply #33 on: September 19, 2018, 11:24:33 AM »
And all these years everybody has been breaking my chops about the rituals related to cleaning records being to inconvenient and time consuming????????   :roll:

Your ritual is still painful and inconvenient. No thank you  :-P.

I do not have a ritual at all.  The only ritual that I have is power the DAC on (the amp and preamp stay on), grab the tablet/phone select music and hit play.  I have not mucked around with my setup for close to 18 months outside of making sure everything is patched both under Windows and Linux environment in automated fashion.  Patches get installed and system gets rebooted automatically every 6 weeks or so.

I am willing to give up bit of sound quality to keep my systems up and running in secure manner.  Even though they are dedicated for music only, god forbid I am not paying attention and use the system to browse  :duh

To each his own.......
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Re: The Pains of Computer Audio
« Reply #34 on: September 19, 2018, 12:17:43 PM »

To each his own.......


Yep, the goal is to enjoy music.  Does not matter how you get there  :thumb:

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Re: The Pains of Computer Audio
« Reply #35 on: September 19, 2018, 12:39:46 PM »
And all these years everybody has been breaking my chops about the rituals related to cleaning records being to inconvenient and time consuming????????   :roll:

Your ritual is still painful and inconvenient. No thank you  :-P.

I do not have a ritual at all.  The only ritual that I have is power the DAC on (the amp and preamp stay on), grab the tablet/phone select music and hit play.  I have not mucked around with my setup for close to 18 months outside of making sure everything is patched both under Windows and Linux environment in automated fashion.  Patches get installed and system gets rebooted automatically every 6 weeks or so.

I am willing to give up bit of sound quality to keep my systems up and running in secure manner.  Even though they are dedicated for music only, god forbid I am not paying attention and use the system to browse  :duh
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Although I tend to let newly acquired vinyl pile up before breaking out ultrasonic, once clean it is sooooo easy to have things working and sounding good. 
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Re: The Pains of Computer Audio
« Reply #36 on: September 19, 2018, 01:05:54 PM »

To each his own.......


Yep, the goal is to enjoy music.  Does not matter how you get there  :thumb:
When I made that realisation, my life became MUCH simpler.
Spent less money too.  :rofl:

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Re: The Pains of Computer Audio
« Reply #37 on: September 20, 2018, 12:20:05 PM »

To each his own.......


Yep, the goal is to enjoy music.  Does not matter how you get there  :thumb:

Well put.  :clap:
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Re: The Pains of Computer Audio
« Reply #38 on: September 21, 2018, 05:37:38 AM »
Thanks to Shadowlight we were able to get the content directory set up. I was on the right track for setting it up but was actually providing too much information on the path.
We continue to have problems with JRiver/JPlay. I don't believe that will ever be resolved.  I can continue that as a hobby of its own on the side because the pressure is off, I now have music because the Shadow knows   :rofl:
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Re: The Pains of Computer Audio
« Reply #39 on: September 21, 2018, 07:59:38 AM »
Thanks to Shadowlight we were able to get the content directory set up. I was on the right track for setting it up but was actually providing too much information on the path.
We continue to have problems with JRiver/JPlay. I don't believe that will ever be resolved.  I can continue that as a hobby of its own on the side because the pressure is off, I now have music because the Shadow knows   :rofl:

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Re: The Pains of Computer Audio
« Reply #40 on: September 21, 2018, 08:42:19 AM »
Thanks to Shadowlight we were able to get the content directory set up. I was on the right track for setting it up but was actually providing too much information on the path.
We continue to have problems with JRiver/JPlay. I don't believe that will ever be resolved.  I can continue that as a hobby of its own on the side because the pressure is off, I now have music because the Shadow knows   :rofl:

Is the Minimserver to Lumin streaming on par with JRiver/JPlay setup in sound quality?

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Re: The Pains of Computer Audio
« Reply #41 on: September 21, 2018, 09:24:49 AM »
I didnt spend much more time on the JRiver-JPlay debacle. I can only take this computer stuff in small doses  :lol:
I will spend some time with it this weekend. I need to confirm that the JPlay is actually running WITH JRiver at the same time.
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Re: The Pains of Computer Audio
« Reply #42 on: September 21, 2018, 06:10:14 PM »
OK so it appears that the 2 are playing nice nice in the sand box.....for now. I was able to do a couple of comparisons of streamed vs playing locally. I think the local is a little more lively and the streaming is a bit dull(er). very close, I will need to do more evaluation but hey, its working.... :thumb:
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Re: The Pains of Computer Audio
« Reply #43 on: September 21, 2018, 07:24:23 PM »
OK so it appears that the 2 are playing nice nice in the sand box.....for now. I was able to do a couple of comparisons of streamed vs playing locally. I think the local is a little more lively and the streaming is a bit dull(er). very close, I will need to do more evaluation but hey, its working.... :thumb:

Good to hear that everything is working again.  I guess something in JPlay setup was corrupted and reinstalling it fixed the issue.

Enjoy whichever one sounds the best.
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Re: The Pains of Computer Audio
« Reply #44 on: September 26, 2018, 08:30:48 AM »
Sorry to hear you are having problems. My digital has been rock solid playing pretty much any format for at least 5 years. Listening to peoples woes I think that people try and put together a system out of spare parts they have lying around and that is what ends up having problem.  If I would give you advice it would be this.
 
  • Put all you music on a NAS, that is on 24/7.  Who care if it is uses 15 watts when it is idle, leaving it on all the time will elevate any issues with drives spiingin up ro down when you are tryting to listen to music.

    Put in a hardwired network, don't run it off of wi-fi.

    Get a dedicated Streamer/Player/server, leave it on all the time too. The streamer should be able to connect to the NAS via the hardwired LAN.

    Plug the streamer into the DAC, enjoy digital music.

Playing around with jriver, foobar, media monkey, etc is fine when listening to music at you PC. but if you are trying to integrate digital streaming with your main rig it is much better to get dedicated solutions. Yes in the long run it is more money that just putting together a digital streaming solution from odds and ends you have lying around the house. But the dedicated gear makes things work so much smoother.

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