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Offline S Clark

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Been listening to cables for a few weeks.  Electra Cables, Straley Reality, Audioquest CV8, and Bolder.  There are clear differences. 
What's in your system, what did they replace, and why?
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Re: What speaker cables are you using, what did they replace, and why?
« Reply #1 on: April 29, 2018, 08:49:51 PM »
I replaced Anticables with JPS SuperConductor3. They have great resolution, great bass control, but the best attribute is they don't ring like copper cables. They use a conductor alloy that stops the ringing. They are silent, no ringing at all. The tone sounds richer and more intense, and I like the way the lack of ringing affects the music, and affects me when I listen. JPS makes budget cables too, like UltraConductor2. They all have the same non-ringing alloy conductor, pricier versions have more resolution and better bass response and bass control.

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Re: What speaker cables are you using, what did they replace, and why?
« Reply #2 on: April 29, 2018, 10:05:59 PM »
I replaced Anticables with JPS SuperConductor3. They have great resolution, great bass control, but the best attribute is they don't ring like copper cables. They use a conductor alloy that stops the ringing. They are silent, no ringing at all. The tone sounds richer and more intense, and I like the way the lack of ringing affects the music, and affects me when I listen. JPS makes budget cables too, like UltraConductor2. They all have the same non-ringing alloy conductor, pricier versions have more resolution and better bass response and bass control.

Rich,
Can you elaborate on what constitutes ringing? How is that pereceived in the musical presentation?
Also, if copper “rings”, have you found that silver does the same?
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Re: What speaker cables are you using, what did they replace, and why?
« Reply #3 on: April 29, 2018, 10:09:06 PM »
I’m using Gary’s (aka gander) solid copper braided cables. They replaced the Straleys which I had and enjoyed for many years.
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Re: What speaker cables are you using, what did they replace, and why?
« Reply #4 on: April 29, 2018, 11:39:47 PM »
It's like reverb, but more subtle. It's inside the music, not laid on top like reverb. I think people think it's in the recording, the actual sound of the instrument. It's a sound we are all accustomed to, so we don't notice it until it's gone. I have read that silver also rings, but less noticeable, but this may be the cause of the silver fear many audiophiles have - too much detail, tizzy, etc.

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Re: What speaker cables are you using, what did they replace, and why?
« Reply #5 on: May 08, 2018, 08:01:05 AM »
One size does not fit all. I use depending on components TWL, Belden and Tchernov. Price matters as well. Tough call. Just need to try as many as you can .
I prefer a neutral cable however sometimes a little color is needed. What that is called synergy.

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Re: What speaker cables are you using, what did they replace, and why?
« Reply #6 on: May 08, 2018, 03:08:54 PM »
Being able to only afford one set of cables, I did as much reading as I could and got the TWL. I was happy with the pc and read good things about the sc. Before that was a pair I've had for quite some time. Can't remember if it had a specific name but were Harmonic Tech in-wall cable. Even though they weren't in the wall it was the same wire without the pretty cover.

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Re: What speaker cables are you using, what did they replace, and why?
« Reply #7 on: May 08, 2018, 04:36:16 PM »
This is going to sound like heresy to some cable people, but before you look to upgrade your speaker cables I think you need to optomize your interconnects. Those signals are much smaller and have a higher chance of getting corrupted by RFi and EMI, hence shielded or not.

Then worry about your speaker cables.

I used Jon Rich's Belden 89259 cross connect DIY design for many years and was very happy with them. I tried others but there was little to no improvement, sometimes worse sounding to my ears, so I stuck with what I had. Then I tried Pete's speaker cables (Triode Wire Labs) and finally found something that improved things without breaking the bank. Truth - I was seriously looking at used Nordost Heimdall cables at that point but couldn't pull the trigger for the cost.  No, I didn't compare Pete's cables to the Heimdall's, but I can say I'm completely satisfied and have lost the urge to look elsewhere.
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Re: What speaker cables are you using, what did they replace, and why?
« Reply #8 on: May 08, 2018, 06:08:36 PM »
Point taken.  But in my case, speaker cables were the last thing to be upgraded, having found quality interconnects and power cables that I'm pleased with. 
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Re: What speaker cables are you using, what did they replace, and why?
« Reply #9 on: November 26, 2018, 09:27:27 PM »
I replaced stranded wire with 10 parallel 18 gauge solid wires simply because it reduces
inductance to nill while I kept the capacitance to absolute minimum.

I am also able to select the total gauge for maximum musical pleasure. Too small of total gauge and
too large total gauge degrades the sound in my system.

Sounds fantastic, and don't want to spend a fortune purchasing 6n pure wire to check for even
better sonics.

cheers

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Re: What speaker cables are you using, what did they replace, and why?
« Reply #10 on: November 28, 2018, 06:58:38 AM »
I replace Audioquest cv-8 with Mapleshade Double Helix V.2, 1/3 the price and better SQ
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Re: What speaker cables are you using, what did they replace, and why?
« Reply #11 on: November 28, 2018, 09:29:14 AM »
Uh Oh here we go.....Lol. :duh
Well I just dumped big bucks into a pair of MIT Matrix HD38. I already upgraded every other cable in my system. Like Bob says go interconnects first.
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Re: What speaker cables are you using, what did they replace, and why?
« Reply #12 on: November 28, 2018, 10:33:09 AM »
Uh Oh here we go.....Lol. :duh
Well I just dumped big bucks into a pair of MIT Matrix HD38. I already upgraded every other cable in my system. Like Bob says go interconnects first.

Well, I just looked up your MIT’s and yes, they’re a bit more than I can afford 😀
Are they broken it yet? Like what you hear?
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Re: What speaker cables are you using, what did they replace, and why?
« Reply #14 on: November 28, 2018, 05:31:29 PM »
Uh Oh here we go.....Lol. :duh
Well I just dumped big bucks into a pair of MIT Matrix HD38. I already upgraded every other cable in my system. Like Bob says go interconnects first.

Well, I just looked up your MIT’s and yes, they’re a bit more than I can afford 😀
Are they broken it yet? Like what you hear?

Just ordered them last week won’t get them until Monday
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