Acoustic Revive RR-888

[doug s.]

whatever it costs, just send me half the money instead - it will work just as well.   

doug s.

[tmazz]

Iv'e Seen the D-stat (that little gun thing) and have thought about getting one. Not sure if it would do any good.
How does one get their paws on a magnetic tape bulk eraser. Is this a one time shot or do you
need to redo every so often? Guess I could just send the 400+ cds to you Dave and when could
ya get back to me?

https://www.ebay.com/i/152921001403?chn=ps&dispItem=1

[Nick B]

Ripping the CD to a data file solves any real or imagined magnetic problems, static problems, reflective problems, vibration problems, disc error correction, laser diffraction, etc, etc. Leave the physical and all it's problems behind.

Reducing jitter and maximizing sample rate offer greater improvement than treating a CD.

Don’t doubt that at all as to jitter and sampling rate. It would be an interesting experiment to use the devices to correct magnetism, static, diffraction, etc and then immediately rip to a data file.  Then compare the CD to the data file. I’ve never done it.

[rollo]

  Get cracking boy !


charles

[rollo]

Also meant to ask what does the RR888 run price wise?

 $600 list. Group buy ???? off.


charles

[rollo]

whatever it costs, just send me half the money instead - it will work just as well.   

doug s.

   You who have great ears WILL appreciate the sonic improvement. Shuman Resonaters work. As I said good enough for Herbie Hancock good enough to try.
 BTW guys for static nothing more effective than the Mapleshade device. Circa $35.


charles

[rollo]

Iv'e Seen the D-stat (that little gun thing) and have thought about getting one. Not sure if it would do any good.
How does one get their paws on a magnetic tape bulk eraser. Is this a one time shot or do you
need to redo every so often? Guess I could just send the 400+ cds to you Dave and when could
ya get back to me?

https://www.ebay.com/i/152921001403?chn=ps&dispItem=1

   That is one I have. Performed an exorcist of those nasties yesterday and was very pleased with result. Just sounded better overall. What ever sibilants  were present [ hardly any or none to begin with] with vocals is now completely gone, gone, gone. Cleaned up top end big time.

charles

[Nick B]

Iv'e Seen the D-stat (that little gun thing) and have thought about getting one. Not sure if it would do any good.
How does one get their paws on a magnetic tape bulk eraser. Is this a one time shot or do you
need to redo every so often? Guess I could just send the 400+ cds to you Dave and when could
ya get back to me?

https://www.ebay.com/i/152921001403?chn=ps&dispItem=1

   That is one I have. Performed an exorcist of those nasties yesterday and was very pleased with result. Just sounded better overall. What ever sibilants  were present [ hardly any or none to begin with] with vocals is now completely gone, gone, gone. Cleaned up top end big time.

charles

I’d like to understand in more detail why is there an improvement after demagnetizing a disc?
Nick

[rollo]

A subject for our Experts Corner for sure.


charles

[doug s.]

Also meant to ask what does the RR888 run price wise?

 $600 list. Group buy ???? off.


charles

for cheapskates:
https://www.amazon.com/Ultra-low-Frequency-Generator-Resonator-Screwdriver/dp/B07BFW3NHK/ref=sr_1_11?s=aht&srs=16566127011&ie=UTF8&qid=1521140117&sr=1-11


https://www.amazon.com/Upgraded-Schumann-Ultra-low-Frequency-Generator/dp/B07868R4Y7/ref=sr_1_18?ie=UTF8&qid=1521138974&sr=8-18&keywords=Schumann+generator


https://www.amazon.com/Douk-Audio-Resonance-Ultra-low-Transparent/dp/B073ZV4MSP/ref=sr_1_14?ie=UTF8&qid=1521138918&sr=8-14&keywords=Schumann%2Bgenerator&th=1

(also, in that same link, available in slightly cheaper clear and black plastic, instead of wood.  and, note the quantum crystal tweaks also available for them)

if you have a bit more cash, why not go tubed?   
https://www.ebay.com/itm/V2-0-FM783-Tube-Schumann-Wave-7-83HZ-Ultra-low-Frequency-Pulse-Generator-PSU/142405163718?hash=item2128025ac6:g:3XMAAOSwsXFZNN~i][url]https://www.ebay.com/itm/V2-0-FM783-Tube-Schumann-Wave-7-83HZ-Ultra-low-Frequency-Pulse-Generator-PSU/142405163718?hash=item2128025ac6:g:3XMAAOSwsXFZNN~i[/url]


and "last year's model" is available for "only"~$300 or less:
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01M3YVR49/ref=sxbs_sxwds-stvp_1?pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_p=3524122382&pd_rd_wg=8mglg&pf_rd_r=JEAM9N9AC8ZD5ZC5CVH3&pf_rd_s=desktop-sx-bottom-slot&pf_rd_t=301&pd_rd_i=B01M3YVR49&pd_rd_w=ca3tR&pf_rd_i=Schumann+generator&pd_rd_r=a7529bfb-bdf3-40e3-aa15-cb439a723234&ie=UTF8&qid=1521138918&sr=1

a ~$260 competitor:
https://www.ebay.com.sg/itm/Schumann-Resonator-CHARTRES-SE-4-Layers-audiophile-tweak-WITH-CASE-ENCLOSURE/263094464408?hash=item3d41a6ef98:g:O94AAOSwAC5ZbetH
(this seller also sells a $30 iteration, similar to the first acoustic revive rr-77:
https://www.ebay.com.sg/itm/Schumann-Resonator-audiophile-tweak/253228994913?hash=item3af59fd161:g:mfMAAOxy83JRGbQP

if you just have to have the latest-n-greatest, don't pay too much - $500 - or make offer:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Brand-New-Acoustic-Revive-RR-888-Ultra-Low-Frequency-Pulse-Generator-/182219451879

according to a blogger in this thread, there's zero difference between the rr777 & the new rr888:
http://www.audioshark.org/acoustic-treatments-digital-room-correction-25/acoustic-revive-rr-777-vs-rr-888-a-6982.html

competition?
http://singaporehifi.blogspot.fr/2013/01/clash-of-titans-acoustic-revive-rr-777.html
http://telos-audio.com.tw/2017/09/28/quantum-acoustics-diffuser/


enjoy! 

doug s.

[tmazz]

Iv'e Seen the D-stat (that little gun thing) and have thought about getting one. Not sure if it would do any good.
How does one get their paws on a magnetic tape bulk eraser. Is this a one time shot or do you
need to redo every so often? Guess I could just send the 400+ cds to you Dave and when could
ya get back to me?

https://www.ebay.com/i/152921001403?chn=ps&dispItem=1

   That is one I have. Performed an exorcist of those nasties yesterday and was very pleased with result. Just sounded better overall. What ever sibilants  were present [ hardly any or none to begin with] with vocals is now completely gone, gone, gone. Cleaned up top end big time.

charles

I’d like to understand in more detail why is there an improvement after demagnetizing a disc?
Nick

I'm not sure there is a whole lot of detail to it. Magnetic fields on the disc can cause a "bend" in the laser light path whick can result in the reflected light not missing the photo sensor and certain bits not being read properly. If the magnetic field was static it would not be a problem as the photo cell could be adjusted to compensate for the4 bend, but since the discs is spinning, that means the magnetic field is moving around and the displacement from the intended laser path out be random in nature causing data errors.

Nick, using this device accomplishes the same thing as the Bedini Ultraclarifier.just not automatically as you would need to hold down the power button on the demag unit and move it around by hand.

And if you do use one of these devices be sure that it is always moving while it is on and move it at least an arm's length away from the CD before letting go og the power button t the sudden collapse of the magnetic field will re-magnetize the disc (or at least that is how it worked when we bulk erased reel to reel tapes when  I worked at the radio station.

[rollo]

   Doug lots of alternatives out there. The key is the device it works as advertised. If the less expensive ones have the same generation output no matter how cheap it will work.


charles

[Nick B]

Also meant to ask what does the RR888 run price wise?

 $600 list. Group buy ???? off.


charles

for cheapskates:
https://www.amazon.com/Ultra-low-Frequency-Generator-Resonator-Screwdriver/dp/B07BFW3NHK/ref=sr_1_11?s=aht&srs=16566127011&ie=UTF8&qid=1521140117&sr=1-11


https://www.amazon.com/Upgraded-Schumann-Ultra-low-Frequency-Generator/dp/B07868R4Y7/ref=sr_1_18?ie=UTF8&qid=1521138974&sr=8-18&keywords=Schumann+generator


https://www.amazon.com/Douk-Audio-Resonance-Ultra-low-Transparent/dp/B073ZV4MSP/ref=sr_1_14?ie=UTF8&qid=1521138918&sr=8-14&keywords=Schumann%2Bgenerator&th=1

(also, in that same link, available in slightly cheaper clear and black plastic, instead of wood.  and, note the quantum crystal tweaks also available for them)

if you have a bit more cash, why not go tubed?   
[url=https://www.ebay.com/itm/V2-0-FM783-Tube-Schumann-Wave-7-83HZ-Ultra-low-Frequency-Pulse-Generator-PSU/142405163718?hash=item2128025ac6:g:3XMAAOSwsXFZNN~i]https://www.ebay.com/itm/V2-0-FM783-Tube-Schumann-Wave-7-83HZ-Ultra-low-Frequency-Pulse-Generator-PSU/142405163718?hash=item2128025ac6:g:3XMAAOSwsXFZNN~i][url]https://www.ebay.com/itm/V2-0-FM783-Tube-Schumann-Wave-7-83HZ-Ultra-low-Frequency-Pulse-Generator-PSU/142405163718?hash=item2128025ac6:g:3XMAAOSwsXFZNN~i]https://www.ebay.com/itm/V2-0-FM783-Tube-Schumann-Wave-7-83HZ-Ultra-low-Frequency-Pulse-Generator-PSU/142405163718?hash=item2128025ac6:g:3XMAAOSwsXFZNN~i]https://www.ebay.com/itm/V2-0-FM783-Tube-Schumann-Wave-7-83HZ-Ultra-low-Frequency-Pulse-Generator-PSU/142405163718?hash=item2128025ac6:g:3XMAAOSwsXFZNN~i][url]https://www.ebay.com/itm/V2-0-FM783-Tube-Schumann-Wave-7-83HZ-Ultra-low-Frequency-Pulse-Generator-PSU/142405163718?hash=item2128025ac6:g:3XMAAOSwsXFZNN~i[/url]


and "last year's model" is available for "only"~$300 or less:
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01M3YVR49/ref=sxbs_sxwds-stvp_1?pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_p=3524122382&pd_rd_wg=8mglg&pf_rd_r=JEAM9N9AC8ZD5ZC5CVH3&pf_rd_s=desktop-sx-bottom-slot&pf_rd_t=301&pd_rd_i=B01M3YVR49&pd_rd_w=ca3tR&pf_rd_i=Schumann+generator&pd_rd_r=a7529bfb-bdf3-40e3-aa15-cb439a723234&ie=UTF8&qid=1521138918&sr=1

a ~$260 competitor:
https://www.ebay.com.sg/itm/Schumann-Resonator-CHARTRES-SE-4-Layers-audiophile-tweak-WITH-CASE-ENCLOSURE/263094464408?hash=item3d41a6ef98:g:O94AAOSwAC5ZbetH
(this seller also sells a $30 iteration, similar to the first acoustic revive rr-77:
https://www.ebay.com.sg/itm/Schumann-Resonator-audiophile-tweak/253228994913?hash=item3af59fd161:g:mfMAAOxy83JRGbQP

if you just have to have the latest-n-greatest, don't pay too much - $500 - or make offer:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Brand-New-Acoustic-Revive-RR-888-Ultra-Low-Frequency-Pulse-Generator-/182219451879

according to a blogger in this thread, there's zero difference between the rr777 & the new rr888:
http://www.audioshark.org/acoustic-treatments-digital-room-correction-25/acoustic-revive-rr-777-vs-rr-888-a-6982.html

competition?
http://singaporehifi.blogspot.fr/2013/01/clash-of-titans-acoustic-revive-rr-777.html
http://telos-audio.com.tw/2017/09/28/quantum-acoustics-diffuser/


enjoy! 

doug s.

Doug,
The link about the Telos diffuser and mention of alpha waves made me recall an incident from 25 years ago. At that time, I had severely injured a hip muscle and was constantly in a lot of pain. I had a dance partner at the time named Isabel who years before had been at UCLA and was involved in a study about pain control. Over the phone one time, she walked me through a sequence of mind relaxation and uttering the yoga phrase “om” repeatedly. Doing exactly what she said put me in a state of mental and physical relaxation and the pain ceased. I asked how this was possible and she said the study found that producing alpha waves somehow caused a body frequency response less than 20hz? and below that point the body could no longer feel pain.
As I only ran into her at dance functions occasionally, I lost track of her, but was able to recall, as best I could, this incident of so many years ago
Nick

[Nick B]

Iv'e Seen the D-stat (that little gun thing) and have thought about getting one. Not sure if it would do any good.
How does one get their paws on a magnetic tape bulk eraser. Is this a one time shot or do you
need to redo every so often? Guess I could just send the 400+ cds to you Dave and when could
ya get back to me?

https://www.ebay.com/i/152921001403?chn=ps&dispItem=1

   That is one I have. Performed an exorcist of those nasties yesterday and was very pleased with result. Just sounded better overall. What ever sibilants  were present [ hardly any or none to begin with] with vocals is now completely gone, gone, gone. Cleaned up top end big time.

charles

I’d like to understand in more detail why is there an improvement after demagnetizing a disc?
Nick

I'm not sure there is a whole lot of detail to it. Magnetic fields on the disc can cause a "bend" in the laser light path whick can result in the reflected light not missing the photo sensor and certain bits not being read properly. If the magnetic field was static it would not be a problem as the photo cell could be adjusted to compensate for the4 bend, but since the discs is spinning, that means the magnetic field is moving around and the displacement from the intended laser path out be random in nature causing data errors.

Nick, using this device accomplishes the same thing as the Bedini Ultraclarifier.just not automatically as you would need to hold down the power button on the demag unit and move it around by hand.

And if you do use one of these devices be sure that it is always moving while it is on and move it at least an arm's length away from the CD before letting go og the power button t the sudden collapse of the magnetic field will re-magnetize the disc (or at least that is how it worked when we bulk erased reel to reel tapes when  I worked at the radio station.

Thanks, Tom. It appears error correction, or actually lack of absolute error correction,  may be the culprit. My CDs are on a data file, but there are some new ones I need to rip. So my thinking is if some of these gizmos work, why not use them before ripping to possibly get a better sounding permanent result. Maybe I have a demagnifier and antistatic device in an old musty audio box in the garage. Gotta check.....
Nick

[rollo]

  After living with the RR-888 for a couple of weeks now I can now appreciate what they offer. The recording enviorment of the recording comes though in spades. The decay of harmonics has expanded to my listening chair. Just fills the dam room. I can feel the sound now. Amazing. It is when you unplug it the effect just goes away.
Doug has supplied a bunch of choices to choose from. BTW two make it even better. A no brainer for any system
Besides the sonic benefit I just feel better. More relaxed with no sleeping issues.
One does not need a high end system to hear the improvements which makes it appeasing. I'm hooked, one would have to rip it from my dead cold hands.


charles