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Offline HAL

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Re: Speaker Cable Gauge
« Reply #15 on: October 03, 2019, 05:00:10 AM »
There is a correction.  For every doubling of surface area the awg goes up by a factor a 2 not 1.  I had read it was one, but the awg charts shows it is 2.

So to go from 24 awg to 18 awg is only a 4 wire bundle and one piece of Ethernet cable all wires in parallel is 16awg.

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Re: Speaker Cable Gauge
« Reply #16 on: October 03, 2019, 09:54:25 AM »
There is a correction.  For every doubling of surface area the awg goes up by a factor a 2 not 1.  I had read it was one, but the awg charts shows it is 2.

So to go from 24 awg to 18 awg is only a 4 wire bundle and one piece of Ethernet cable all wires in parallel is 16awg.

I see where you are coming from Hal, but resistance is better for my experiments and Guy's and others who will perform future experiments with their speaker wires.

1. DC wire resistance is easily available in the gauge charts.

2. Paralleling wires will automatically reduce the inductance at higher frequencies.

3. What we are interested in is both 1 and 2 since the DC resistance affects the damping factor and the inductive reactance affects sound as the frequency rises. We need to optimize both total DC wire resistance and inductive reactance to the whole speaker.

I don't mean anything by disagreeing, just wish to keep things meaningful, straight forward, and simple.

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Re: Speaker Cable Gauge
« Reply #17 on: October 03, 2019, 09:49:52 PM »
It is so nice to see two guys discussing a differing point of view in rational terms without resorting to insults and name calling like in some other areas of the net whose name shall not be mentioned.......  :roll:

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Re: Speaker Cable Gauge
« Reply #18 on: October 03, 2019, 11:30:01 PM »
It is so nice to see two guys discussing a differing point of view in rational terms without resorting to insults and name calling like in some other areas of the net whose name shall not be mentioned.......  :roll:

That's why I'm still here after all these years.  :thumb:



You are right TMAZZ
this place is civilized compared to many other places that I have visited
or being member.
I am anxious to see new members joining or civilized forum.

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Re: Speaker Cable Gauge
« Reply #19 on: February 12, 2020, 01:12:15 PM »
One final thought. It is possible that one will not experience any sonic difference if the system, room, or both are masking the inner detail etc. Bass heavy rooms, high db nodes, dull sounding rooms, poor part(s) in general can mask so one won't perceive any sonic difference.

I should have posted this information sooner as newbies may not understand these principles as our veterans clearly understand.

cheers
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Re: Speaker Cable Gauge
« Reply #20 on: February 12, 2020, 08:51:39 PM »
One final thought. It is possible that one will not experience any sonic difference if the system, room, or both are heavily masking the inner detail etc. Bass heavy rooms, high db nodes, dull sounding rooms in general can mask and make the tonal quality so full that one won't perceive any sonic difference.

I should have posted this information sooner as newbies may not understand these principles as our veterans clearly understand.

cheers
steve

So true. How many times have we solved one problem only to find that we had several more that the first problem was covering up?  :roll:
Remember, it's all about the music........

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Re: Speaker Cable Gauge
« Reply #21 on: February 12, 2020, 10:40:39 PM »
One final thought. It is possible that one will not experience any sonic difference if the system, room, or both are heavily masking the inner detail etc. Bass heavy rooms, high db nodes, dull sounding rooms in general can mask and make the tonal quality so full that one won't perceive any sonic difference.

I should have posted this information sooner as newbies may not understand these principles as our veterans clearly understand.

cheers
steve

So true. How many times have we solved one problem only to find that we had several more that the first problem was covering up?  :roll:
I have long held the opinion that the room is THE most important interconnect in a good to great system.  Ya’ gotta be able to hear the source material as recorded.

Know what I mean?

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Re: Speaker Cable Gauge
« Reply #22 on: February 13, 2020, 08:43:39 AM »
Agree with the room being the important factor -- which one of you guys can explain that to my wife?
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Re: Speaker Cable Gauge
« Reply #23 on: February 15, 2020, 07:59:56 AM »
Agree with the room being the important factor -- which one of you guys can explain that to my wife?

That would be none of us.  :roll:
Remember, it's all about the music........

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Re: Speaker Cable Gauge
« Reply #24 on: February 15, 2020, 08:51:45 AM »
Agree with the room being the important factor -- which one of you guys can explain that to my wife?

That would be none of us.  :roll:
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