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Systemic Development => Speakers => Topic started by: BobM on December 22, 2010, 11:03:03 AM
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There has been some press and forum ravings about several different speakers this past year. My personal list is:
- any of the Magico's
- Revel Studio 2 or Salon 2
- KEF Reference 207/2
- any of the Tidal speakers
- Coincident Pure Reference
- YG Acoustics
What do you want to hear?
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Gedlee
Salk
JBL
Tannoy
Revel
charles
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Legacy Focus SE
Legacy Whisper XD
Musical Affairs
Ocellia
Lenehan ML1
North Creek Prometheus
DeVore Silverback
Wilson Alexandria or Maxx
Coincident Pure Reference
Troels Gravesen DTQWT-12
Humble Homemade Soup
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my bicycle buying is nixing the return trip to Vegas next month... there were a couple speakers I wanted to hear at CES...
in a general wish list scenario, I really want to hear the big Tannoys. I think I've only ever heard one of the small ones and that was years and years ago. I've always been curious...... I may hate them, I may love them. But I'll never know until I hear them... they are stupid expensive for the really big ones, though.... I'd also like to hear the new Kef stuff...
The Coincident speakers are awesome. I loved them the last couple times I've heard them... came really close to picking up the line. If I had more room here, I'd own a pair or two of them. One of the best speakers I heard at CES last year bar none... very tube friendly as well..... I'd like to have a pair of the Von Schweikert VR-33 or VR-35 here to try out... but there's only so many rooms in my place and I've finally got it scaled back to 1-2 sets of speakers per setup in most rooms for the first time in years...
Magicos are not for me. Same with Revel. The YG Acoustics stuff is too expensive for what you get.. imho, ymmv, blah blah blah etc. etc. etc. :)
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Vivid audio B1
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Legacy Focus SE
Legacy Whisper XD
It may be a different story in a real room with different gear... but the last two shows I've been to, the Legacy stuff was one of the worst experiences I've ever had at an audio show.... run from the room screaming in agony/nails on a chalkboard awful... I tried to go back a couple times because I thought there was no way it was as bad as I thought.... it was..... imho, ymmv, etc. etc. etc. :)
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Some have already been mentioned, but I would also like to hear Daedalus, and still haven't heard the Vandersteen 7s. I don't get out that much. :?
I did get to hear the Zu Soul Superflys the other day though. :)
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The Usher Dancer Mini II's that I now own are physically the right size speakers for my room. This being the case I really would love to hear the Acoustic Zen Crescendos that Bill Baker is selling. The reviews of the speakers that I have read lead me to believe they deliver a full range of sound and are slightly on the warm side of neutral. I just wonder if I can control the 20 hz bass in my room!
Oh, to dream!
Ken
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The Usher Dancer Mini II's that I now own are physically the right size speakers for my room. This being the case I really would love to hear the Acoustic Zen Crescendos that Bill Baker is selling. The reviews of the speakers that I have read lead me to believe they deliver a full range of sound and are slightly on the warm side of neutral. I just wonder if I can control the 20 hz bass in my room!
Oh, to dream!
Ken
Yes you can. The Berhinger EQ is the ticket for bass correction. Very impressive with bass management but NOT the rest of the spectrum. I heard a demo with it in then out. Again excellent results.
charles
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Legacy Focus SE
Legacy Whisper XD
It may be a different story in a real room with different gear... but the last two shows I've been to, the Legacy stuff was one of the worst experiences I've ever had at an audio show.... run from the room screaming in agony/nails on a chalkboard awful... I tried to go back a couple times because I thought there was no way it was as bad as I thought.... it was..... imho, ymmv, etc. etc. etc. :)
I had the Focus HDs for a year and was very pleased with them. I probably should have kept them but decided to reduce the amount of money tied up in equipment (that didn't last long :duh ).
Associated kit: SAS Audio Labs 10A tube preamp
Monarchy Audio SE 160 tube/fet mono amps (factory hot rod version with 200w/ch 8ohms)
Can't recall the CD Player- nothing special
Lin
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I wouldn't judge Legacy negatively based on a trade show, especially with the house brand electronics they must use in public. But Whisper XD did win best of show at CES, Shane, were you smoking crack? :lol: Your experience will prevent me from buying without audition. I liked the 2020s, the new version has much better drivers, and I like Duddleston's design philosophies. So I want to hear Focus, with a good amp, source and wires, in a quiet room.
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I never cared too much for the Legacy speakers I've heard. They do have a pretty lively presentation and a somewhat looser bottom end than I am used to. Very much a "live" sound and not as nuanced as some. I would categorize them as a speaker for a real musician who is used to a stage/PA kind of sound, not for someone listening to soft jazz or acoustic rock in their livingroom with a glass of wine who wants a mellower presentation perhaps.
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Well said. I'm hoping the newer one is a little cleaner. But plenty other speakers to choose from if they're not what I'm expecting. Anyway this is just about listening right? I don't want to even think about buying commercial speakers until after a few more DIYs, if ever. Still fun to window shop.
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This is my first post here. I found this site looking for reviews on the Eastern Electric products, specifically the Eastern Electric EL156 amps and DAC. This thread caught my eye, partially because I made a number of mistakes in buying my second pair of speakers.
It had been about 18 years since I last had purchased speakers. When I decided I wanted another pair of speakers, I rushed into it, not really taking the time to audition as I should have. I just got swept away and made a number of fundamental mistakes. So, I am thinking about starting over again with the goal of two systems.
Here’s my list; some of have been mentioned already. Yes, it is a long one, but my plan is to audition as many different speaker types as possible. I am in no hurry and I don't really know what I like, not having heard many speakers before.
Thirty speakers seemed like a good number. That would give me a large enough sample to really understand what I am looking for in a speaker. And coincidentally, some day, I’d like to take a summer touring all the major league base ball parks and if I could arrange demos along the way, so much the better!
Well, the number of brands that intrigue me, either because of design ideas, reviews, user comments, or simply pure aesthetics actually is 31. Since I live in the Charlotte metro area, I’d love to see MLB come to Charlotte…
Gershman Black Swan
JM Reynaud Offrandes Supreme V2
Avalon Acoustics Indra
Revolver Cygnis
Classic Audio T-1.4
Coincident Total Victory IV
Daedalus Audio Ulysses
Sanders Sound 10B
Ohm Walsh 5000
Blue Circle Audio BM2
Decware Extended Range Radial
Geddes
Silverline La Folia II
Vandersteen 5A
Green Mountain Calypso HD
Harbeth 40.1
Vaughn Zinfandel / Cabernet
KEF Reference 207/2
Klipsch Cornwalls and K-Horns
Lenehan Audio ML1 PlusR
Selah Audio Julietta
Nola Viper Ref III
Gemme Audio Katana
Revel Ultima Salon2
Merlin VSM-Mxe
Role Audio Canoe / Kayak
Salk HT3
Vapor Cirrus
SP Tech Revelation / Timepiece
Wilson-Benesch Discovery
Rethm Saadhana
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Welcome Mac,
These are my favorite and the best I have ever had
http://www.audionervosa.com/index.php?action=mgallery;sa=album;id=53
but from your choices I would put the
Daedalus Audio Ulysses at the top of that audition list for sure
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Lenehan Audio ML1 PlusR
Maggie 1.7
Coinicidence Total Victory
3A Reference
Those new Vapor Cirrus ones
and a lot more I can't think of right now
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Welcome Mac5! Your baseball tour and speaker hunt sounds like a lot of fun! Some great possibilities on that list! I've heard some of them. Bill's right about the Daedaleus. Good match with tubes.
Everyone keeps mentioning Vapor Cirrus. What is that? Link anyone?
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Hi Bill and Richidoo. Thanks for saying "Hi".
Here's some links to the Vapor Cirrus.
Vapor Web Site (http://www.vaporsound.com/#all)
I know many of you have been on the AC forums but I am not sure of the protocol here for referring to a discussion there but here (http://www.audiocircle.com/index.php?topic=89390.0) is a user review. Sorry if this is in bad form.
The actual paths if the embedded links do not work.
http://www.vaporsound.com/#all
http://www.audiocircle.com/index.php?topic=89390.0
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Also, I wanted to say to rollo (bit off topic) since you and I would like to hear both Salk and Gedlee speakers that I just finished reading through the Bunch O Amps thread last night and I saw you post back then that the Joule Electra Marquis amps were something you had an interest in. Not sure your thoughts now but there's a pair of Joule Electra Marquis monos for sale on the 'Gon.
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Thanks for the links mac. Looks like a winner. Pretty curves reduce diffraction, not too low reflex tuning, great drivers, 2nd order crossover, nice veneering.
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Also, I wanted to say to rollo (bit off topic) since you and I would like to hear both Salk and Gedlee speakers that I just finished reading through the Bunch O Amps thread last night and I saw you post back then that the Joule Electra Marquis amps were something you had an interest in. Not sure your thoughts now but there's a pair of Joule Electra Marquis monos for sale on the 'Gon.
Our friend Hugh of AngelCityAudio has a pair of VZN-100's for sale right here http://www.audionervosa.com/index.php?topic=2765.0 (http://www.audionervosa.com/index.php?topic=2765.0)
I had Jud build me this pair brand new and later sold them to Hugh. They are a spectacular pair of OTL amps at this price. Most do not have the "Musicwood" cases like these that were significantly more $$$. Worth checking out for sure if you want a taste of great OTL's.
Tom
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Thanks Tom.
Merry Christmas to YOU & YOURS.
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Want to hear these badly... Klipsch Jubilees...
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I don't know how I forgot to put the AudioKinesis Planetarium Beta System on my must-hear list.:duh Well, really anything by Duke come to think of it.
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After reading Chris Marten's review of the YG Carmels in TAS recently, I would love a chance to hear them. The YG stuff is very pricey tho.
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Very good specs on those YGs.
I heard the Anat Reference at RMAF. It sounded very clean. I talked with the designer too, a nice young man, very smart.
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Would also like to hear the TAD Reference One.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vsbOQJ-Lsyo&feature=related (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vsbOQJ-Lsyo&feature=related)
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High on my list at the moment...
Aerial 7Ts (broken in and setup correctly)
Von Schweikert VR-35s (or VR-33s)
Hopefully I'll get another shot at the 7Ts within a week or two.
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I would like to hear the GoldenEar Tritons. They have received a great deal of buzz at the recent CEDIA and CES shows. The press has been very positive. Has anyone heard them?
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I would like to hear the GoldenEar Tritons. They have received a great deal of buzz at the recent CEDIA and CES shows. The press has been very positive. Has anyone heard them?
See here: http://www.audionervosa.com/index.php?topic=2806.0
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I never cared too much for the Legacy speakers I've heard. They do have a pretty lively presentation and a somewhat looser bottom end than I am used to. Very much a "live" sound and not as nuanced as some. I would categorize them as a speaker for a real musician who is used to a stage/PA kind of sound, not for someone listening to soft jazz or acoustic rock in their livingroom with a glass of wine who wants a mellower presentation perhaps.
VANDERSTEEN 3A SING. TANNOY. ROCKPORT.
charles
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http://www.peak-consult.dk/Dragon.htm
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Harbeths
Anyone experiences here?
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Harbeths
Anyone experiences here?
Three models heard....Super HL5 - Monitor 30 - Monitor 40. (wanna see the photo's... :rofl:)
The Super HL5 was at a Rave...Mike's (West N.J. - mfsoa)....other two at RMAF.
The British sound....warm - relaxed....similar to what you owned in the past (Neat)...but bigger sounding.
I liked the 40's the best.
The guys in N.C. have heard Harbeth...I think I remember them posting. (Shane/HomeTheaterDoctor is a Harbeth dealer).
Go have a listen Emil.... :thumb:
PS.....Low Sensitivity.....you'll need power... 8)
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Hey Chris
Like my Neats? I lOVED them. Most fun I've ever had was with them and Naim gear.
Didnt do the "audiophile thing" but boy did they boogie!
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Hey Chris
Like my Neats? I lOVED them. Most fun I've ever had was with them and Naim gear.
Didnt do the "audiophile thing" but boy did they boogie!
Harbeth's will do the same for you....smooth mids and highs....what I call warm...easy on the ears.
Their monitors....read a few reviews...then go listen.
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Midrange is smooth from the plastic cone driver, but treble is nicely extended. Easy to place in the room, maybe because of the thin walled resonant box? Even the smaller ones sound big, controlled, easy to listen to. The Monitor 40.1 is very capable even with audiophile tracks, and with good acoustic treatment it can really rock. The Compact 7 is my favorite, just a perfect balance of bass to treble, the midrange doesn't sound as smoothed out as the larger models, a really sweet bookshelf. I was fortunate to be able to hear each of the current Harbeths at RMAF 07 using same electronics in same room, all compared together on the same tracks. They were in the room directly above Feastrex, right near the stairs, so I was up and down like a yoyo. The Compact 7 sounded very close to the bigger models in terms of scale and presence, and everyone agreed it was an amazing value among the other Harbeths.
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Emil....
Maybe stop over to Neil's....give the Sonist Concerto 3 floorstander a listen.
http://www.sonist.com/SONIST_PRODUCTS.html#ProdC3
I've heard them a few times...pretty nice...and easy to drive.
(http://www.positive-feedback.com/Issue36/images/SonistConcerto3.jpg)
Let's see, Goertz Alpha Core air core inductors, Cardas binding posts and inductors, Auricaps and Auric internal wiring, 2" thick solid poplar baffles, these things have got to be the high end bargain of the century. The Sonist Concerto 3 floor standing loudspeakers are the brainchild of Randy Bankert. With an efficiency of 95dB and 8 ohm impedance they are a great match for SETs (I heard them with the deHavilland GM70s). They are a two way design utilizing an 8" paper cone and Fountek JP 3.0 ribbon tweeter set deep in cut outs in the poplar baffle. The cut outs are shaped into waveguides which increase efficiency and control dispersion. They go down to 35Hz (-3dB) and I had to ask several times if I heard the price correctly, $3495/pair. These sounded seriously good and better than anything I've heard at that price.
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I'm using a pair of SP Technology (now Aether Audio) Timepiece speakers as mentioned in a previous post. I have not had the slightest desire for new speakers for 3 years.
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I should be getting a NIB pair of Silverline Sonatina III in Burl Briarwood in the middle of next month :drool:
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http://www.peak-consult.dk/Dragon.htm (http://www.peak-consult.dk/Dragon.htm)
I wouldn't want to hear these as I know my pockets would not be able to handle the desire to own them.
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I'm using a pair of SP Technology (now Aether Audio) Timepiece speakers as mentioned in a previous post. I have not had the slightest desire for new speakers for 3 years.
I'm jealous
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I've always thought Aurum Cantus built speakers that look like they sound amazing, (reading the specs doesn't hurt either) but I've never heard any. I'd very much like to.
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Has anyone had experience with Ohm and Mirage speakers. Are they the cheap man's MBL's or just a poor imitation?
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Has anyone had experience with Ohm and Mirage speakers. Are they the cheap man's MBL's or just a poor imitation?
Duevels are the cheap(er) man's MBLs
Their omni compression mid-tweet models $12K+ were outstanding at RMAF '10
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There is a massive gulf between home and pro speakers, often. This is particularly true in the case of certain brands where technical accuracy is the goal as opposed to euphony, which usually involves either a mid scoop or a bass/treble boost of some kind, or both.
The Klein und Hummel brand of pro speakers (out of Germany) beats any speaker intended for the home market at the same price by a large margin, in my experience - in fact I was able to sell my system comprised of components highly respected in these pages secondhand, buy the K&H 0300s brand new, realize a distinct improvement and pocket some change.
As if to prove the point as to quality of these speakers, just a year ago K&H became Neumann, since both are owned by Sennheiser, and the plan is that the name Neumann will come to represent more than just microphones. You can be assured that the people at Neumann, making one of the world's most respected microphones, and certainly the best known, know sound and have a lot to lose by letting their brand be put on something not worthy.
You should hear them, and I in turn would like to hear the top of their line - the 0500, one pair of which is currently tempting me at a mere $10,000 the pair, lightly used.
http://tinyurl.com/42tl92p
My 0300s:
http://tinyurl.com/y3turnu
click on "measurements".
The only speakers aimed at home use I would be interested in hearing and possibly owning would be any of Earl Geddes or Duke LeJeune's creations. Dynamics do count.
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Evolution Acoustics MMMicroOne.
http://evolutionacoustics.com/images/micro-one20.jpg (http://evolutionacoustics.com/images/micro-one20.jpg)
(Thanks for the tip, Joe)
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miniminim,
Very impressive specs/description for the O300, especially the frequency response and cumulative spectral decay plot. :thumb: $4400/pair for high quality active speakers certainly ain't bad. And yes, the O500 looks even more impressive.
I'm a big fan of active designs (use commissioned single driver designs with monoblocks). I could quibble that they only rated flat to 35 Hz (even my single driver speakers go lower) and would like the mid dome to crossover one or even two octaves lower (hey I'm spoiled in that regard).
What speakers might you compare these to?
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Yes, JLM, the crossover to the mid at 650Hz gave me pause, too, but I must say the crossover is completely inaudible and the response through the range sounds just like the published curve, implausible as that looks in flatness.
As to what I'd compare it to - I haven't heard any other speaker sound as colorless right through that most problematic range - the mids through bass. It truly is remarkable. The headroom in the mids is a pleasure, too. Most other speakers I've heard, especially two-ways, sound as if the drivers are straining to cover the upper and lower ends of their operating ranges, and that must be the payoff for the conservative operating range of the mid dome. There is no sense of strain through the mids. This plus the colorless bass is unique in my experience.
The last speakers I had were the SP Tech Timepieces and, sorry to say, on a piano recording I made and was very familiar with, they simply immediately sounded wrong by comparison. I know what a piano sounds like, too! Fabulous on voice from Elvis to Cecilia Bartoli, thanks to that mid range effortlessness and truth.
I mix and master on these and find EQ particularly easy with them as small adjustments are easily audible.
Most other monitors have some intrinsic color or personality which imposes itself on the sound. This makes mixing and mastering more difficult and the results less trustworthy in terms of translation to the real world. The colorlessness also makes recordings sound maximally different from each other which makes the process of listening more entertaining, since real differences display themselves as such.
It is a mistake to presume accuracy and flat response sounds bland - outstanding recordings do sound outstanding!
If you want a design where the mids cover a wider range (320-3.5k), the new not-quite-released Trident HG3 is one speaker I would like to hear. The designer has respect for the K&H 0300 and mentions it was a benchmark used in his design. Enthusiastic supporters of this design include some very big and experienced names in recording. See:http://www.trident-audio.com/hg3.html
and http://tinyurl.com/3tr9yhc
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miniminim,
Thanks for the reply and additional links.
I introduced Bob (SPTech) to Audio Circle years ago, regretfully have never heard his speakers. But I like his design approaches (except for the big amps his speakers need).
From what you supplied, the HG3 doesn't look nearly as impressive as the O300. I prefer sealed bass to ported (all else being equal), the domed midrange, separate amplifers for each driver, and the waveguides to help extend driver bandwidth of the O300. And for home use, I can simply turn the entire cabinet.
About 12 years ago I auditioned Paradigm Active 20 versus Studio 20 (both smallish 2-way standmounts of very otherwise similar design) and there was no comparison. The dynamics, extended bass, and flat frequency response of the actives blew the passives away (and all bystanders). It was an excellent demostration of the advantages of active design and one of my very top audio epiphanies.
IME unless one has deep pockets, test equipment, and lots of time; its just plain foolish to try shop for amps to match to drivers or to think passive design can beat active.
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My wife has suggested, in the strongest possible terms, that the Klipsch Chorus 2 speakers I'm just about to complete refurbishing wiil GO TO MY GRAVE with me. I love my sweetie, a bunch, so will refrain from informing her that my eye is already wandering to the Audiokinesis Jazz Module:
Specifications:
Type: Two-way floorstanding bass reflex system
Woofer: 10" prosound alnico magnet, treated paper cone
Tweeter: 1" compression driver, neodymium magnet, polyester diaphragm
Waveguide: Low-coloration 90 degree constant directivity
Crossover: 1.7 kHz, asymmetrical transfer function
Impedance: Between 8 and 12 ohms, aside from bass impedance peaks
Efficiency: 92 dB/1 watt at 1 meter
Typical System Bandwidth: 32 Hz to 17.5 kHz
Power Compression: Less than 1 dB of compression at up to 112 dB/1 meter SPL
Recommended Amplifier Power: 5-150 watts (unclipped peaks up to 300 watts acceptable)
Dimensions: 42" high by 14.5" wide by 17.5" deep
Weight: 120 pounds
Pricing: $4500 a pair, direct sales only
Big, beefy, adequately "full-range" for my purposes, nicely efficient, and best of all designer / builder Duke LeJeune understands the issue of room acoustics / interaction and factors those concerns into his designs. All of his stuff is of interest to me and I'd love to be able to listen, and scratch this particular itch! - String
http://www.audiokinesis.com/index.html
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me too.
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I would like to hear the new "box" speakers from Gallo (favorable review on 6moons today). Good price.
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stringdriventhing,
Save yourself $600 and get these instead:
http://www.audiocircle.com/index.php?topic=79325.0
(http://gallery.audioasylum.com/cgi/gi.mpl?u=2112&f=CloudChaserFront.jpg)
If you don't want/have space for bipoles then save $2000 (minus the price of a sub system) with these:
http://www.audiokinesis.com/product_ak_rhythm-prism.html
(http://gallery.audioasylum.com/cgi/gi.mpl?u=2112&f=angled1.jpg)
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I would like to hear the new "box" speakers from Gallo (favorable review on 6moons today). Good price.
And our own BarryNJ is mentioned on the first page :thumb:
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Yeah, I like much of what Duke has to say.
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Bafld - have you had a chance to audition any of the Audiokinesis models? I'd be interested in hearing your impressions if you have. The lower pic you posted is the Rhythm Prism, and it was the speaker at the top of my list as I started research for the new system I'm just now assembling. I had exchanged emails with Duke about the Prism, as it was better suited to my working budget than the Jazz Modules, as well as being plenty of speaker for my 11.5' x 16' listening room. I wound up buying a pair of 22 year-old Klipsch Chorus 2's for a measly $400 and sunk some additional cash into refurbishing them, and I'm not disappointed. BUT, the Rhythm Prisms still are very appealing, both in their technical design and, for me, their freaky-deaky appearance. The design allows for outboard installation of different resistor values to adjust tweeter treble response, and the rear ports are adjustable in their length providing for bass tuning capability. I love the thought that has gone into making the speaker adaptable to a room's acoustic character. - String
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I want to hear this system... the Jubilees was the last & supposedly "best" loudspeakers Paul Klipsch ever designed... Check out this guys room... I'm drooling... http://community.klipsch.com/forums/t/147715.aspx (http://community.klipsch.com/forums/t/147715.aspx)
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I want to hear this system... the Jubilees was the last & supposedly "best" loudspeakers Paul Klipsch ever designed... Check out this guys room... I'm drooling... http://community.klipsch.com/forums/t/147715.aspx (http://community.klipsch.com/forums/t/147715.aspx)
Holy cr@p Pete! :drool: That is just amazing. When do we leave to go visit him (Hey, Nashville is only a 16 hour drive.)
That room is immense!. If I use the record racks as a size reference, the black section of the walls is about 4 ft high. That would make the ceiling peak somewhere in the area of 12 ft!
Check out the coils mounted on the wall. At first glance it appeared to be just a cool wall decoration. but upon further inspection, judging from the wires coming in and out of it, it looks like it could actually be the working crossovers for the system. How cool is that?
At first I thought this was an attic because of the sloped ceiling, but then I noticed that up have to go up 4 or 5 stairs to get out (Look at the door in the top right corner of pic #5.) This would mean to me that the ceiling was not something structural that was in place and had to be worked around, but rather a purposeful design. This whole room was carefully planned and put together for maximum sound performance. I an duly impressed and extremely jealous. :mrgreen:
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Crikey that Klipsch system is amazing. According to the thread the crossover networks on the walls required two people to get them out of the car!
Would really like to hear that system.
Mike
Sent from my NookColor using Tapatalk
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Just saw this . Interesting designs.
http://cgi.ebay.com/Lawrence-Audio-Violin-Loudspeaker-2011-CES-Standout-/130485449394?pt=Speakers_Subwoofers
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The Lawrence Audio Violins appear to be designed for nearfield while standing up. :?
And the primary surfaces you that wouldn't want to be parallel are the front baffle and back wall. Yet they advertize non are. :?
Wonder what drivers are used?
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Big, beefy, adequately "full-range" for my purposes, nicely efficient, and best of all designer / builder Duke LeJeune understands the issue of room acoustics / interaction and factors those concerns into his designs. All of his stuff is of interest to me and I'd love to be able to listen, and scratch this particular itch! - String
http://www.audiokinesis.com/index.html
I went with a custom Planetarium Alpha setup from Duke. These speakers have integrated down firing subs and come with a seperate amp to drive them.
(http://www.indierockfan.net/pics/AudioSystem_1.jpg)
After owning them for several months I spoke to Duke and added a pair of satellite subs so now I basically have the Swarm. I have been listening to these speakers for almost a year now and am very pleased. I won't say you would be happy with a pair of Jazz Modules because one can't really know how someone else will judge a speaker. But I will say that Duke is terrific to deal with. And from what I have seen everyone who owns a pair of his speakers has nothing but great things to say about them.
My setup is a little more expensive than the Jazz modules. The base system was $6,000 (they might have gone up a little since I bought them) and the pair of satellite subs added another $1,200. It really is a sweet sounding setup. Cymbals and brass are so life-like with these speakers.
I'd like to think these will be the last speakers I'll buy. But I honestly felt that way with my Omega Max Hemps so never say never.
--Jerome
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Looking good Jerome. Enjoy !!!!
charles