Systemic Development > Psycho-Acoustics
Midrange resonance in large odd shaped room
bpape:
The other space doesn't sound bad at all.
Bryan
richidoo:
A long day of cleaning, unpacking and throwing out old junk finally yielded a new room to try out for stereo. Carl said it was the best audio room in the house and I would love it, so who am I to argue!
Pics 1, 2, 3, 4
Dammit! He is right AGAIN! It sounds great in there! :) It is not perfect, but has a nicer feel overall, and has a lot more potential than downstairs. I think it might sound better than downstairs already. I put some 4" panels at sidewall 1st reflections, which sounded very nice, makes the background seem quieter, more focused. Playing some adult contemporary music (aka "one note bass" music for souped up old Honda Civics) sounded pretty woolly in the bottom. I had already tried the GIK tritraps in the front corners, but didn't like that. So I laid them down along the floor/wall starting just in front of the speakers. Voila. Bass much better. No problems with soundstaging or tone when they are out in front of the speakers.
I don't know how I'm gonna get the big speakers up there, or if they will be too bass boomy, but that's for another day. Bass drivers are 40 pounds each, so I guess I can take it apart first. :D Carl you're invited to help that day. 8)
There is still a good amount of room sound that will need some more panels to tighten up, but overall sounds OK for a first day. My wife has already told her decorator she thinks she has regained the Living room. I am looking back over my shoulder with slight anxiety.
Now for the bad news: I started listening up there today with the Cary integrated, it sounded pretty good, as always, but a little compressed as always. I brought up the Manley Snappers. Nice and tight, huge sound, unlimited dynamics and ..... Welcome back shout! I was soooo happy to hear that!! :x I will try rolling some tubes through them. Any suggestions for smooth EL34 or equivalent? Any experience with Groove Tubes E34LS? That's what I have now. It's a bastardized GE copy with higher than normal output, the changes could be effecting tone. These things are made for guitar amps after all. The thing that gets me is the amps did not have this sound when they were new and harsh. It came on after a lot of hours of burn in.
But I'm happy to have moved upstairs, at least for now. I'm also happy to have discovered the shout is a voice of the manley's. If I can fix that by rolling some tubes, the amp won't excite the room as badly and I might be able to stay downstairs and tighten that up a bit with Bryan's cloud.
All in all a fun day!
Rich
stereofool:
I don't know how I'm gonna get the big speakers up there, or if they will be too bass boomy, but that's for another day. Bass drivers are 40 pounds each, so I guess I can take it apart first. :D Carl you're invited to help that day. 8)
Hey...Rich!
If it's upstairs you go, then I can bring over my appliance dolly and we can tug and roll those 'big-boys' up your stairs :shock: !
richidoo:
That is a great ideer, thanks Steve! I am picturing you driving it over here in the convertible haha :?
I was also thinking of taking out the big drivers to reduce it under 100 pounds to make it easier to haul up there. It is very easy to take them out.
Carlman:
Cool! I figured it'd be at least 'different-good' in your upstairs room. The first time I went to Rich's house I spotted this particular room as an ideal location for hifi... but it was adjacent to kids' rooms... so, I kind of ruled it out.
If you put as much effort into the upstairs room as you have in the downstairs room, I think you'll be pleasantly surprised at what it will do. I'm just worried the bass will carry through into the kids' rooms... and the other real-world compromises of having your system in that location. You may end up with 2 systems. ;)
I think the cloud idea is a great one, btw... that'll effectively be one big bass trap.
I have no problem helping you with the speakers. With the mid/high-panels out, you'll have a good place to grab without having to worry about the most sensitive part. You take the high end, I'll take the heavy part.. I'm well now so I shouldn't have any issue toting a couple hundred pounds. That'd be a good job for next week.
-C
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