Recommendation for 6922/e88cc Tube for Phono Preamp

Started by shadowlight, May 28, 2021, 01:16:32 PM

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shadowlight

In the market for 6922/e88cc tubes for phono preamp.

6n23p-ev, Tesla e88CC gold pin, Brimar/Mullard cv2492 are some of the ones that I am considering.  Are there any new tubes to look for?  Also, any of the newer tubes from EH/Genelax etc worth trying? 

S Clark

#1
There are always a ton of 6922 tubes out there. For low noise, I've used Philips/Sylvania JAN. They used to be cheap, still reasonable.  Probably a set of 5 you back $80-100.   
https://www.ebay.com/itm/234020401105?hash=item367cb3efd1:g:MRoAAOSwOtRgc3p1

If you are looking for NOS, what about the Russians?  Both tone and noise are really quite nice.  6N1P or 6N23P Voskhods or Reflector.  My late friend Gary Dodd preferred them to the EH he had been using in his phono pre. 

How many do you need?  I might be able to let you try some out of my stock of extras.
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jbtrio

Hey Dee,
The Tesla E88cc gold pins are nice tubes for not so much money. I'm using them in my phonostage after my Amperex SQ tubes started getting noisy. They are very quite and have a nice tonal balance.
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rollo

Quote from: jbtrio on May 29, 2021, 08:07:59 AM
Hey Dee,
The Tesla E88cc gold pins are nice tubes for not so much money. I'm using them in my phonostage after my Amperex SQ tubes started getting noisy. They are very quite and have a nice tonal balance.


   Good to know Joe. My Mullards gold pins are beginning to show some age. Good to see you posting. How are ya Man ??

charles
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jbtrio

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Nick B

I believe the 7308 is an acceptable variant of the 6922. Dave recommended the Amperex nos gold pin 7308s for my tube pre and they are producing great sound. I bought them from Brent Jesse. They were a bit pricey, but worth it to me. If Dave sees this, I hope he'll chime in and advise/confirm
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P.I.

Quote from: Nick B on May 29, 2021, 09:32:18 AM
I believe the 7308 is an acceptable variant of the 6922. Dave recommended the Amperex nos gold pin 7308s for my tube pre and they are producing great sound. I bought them from Brent Jesse. They were a bit pricey, but worth it to me. If Dave sees this, I hope he'll chime in and advise/confirm
Yes, the 7308 tubes are very good.

Another often overlooked tube are the 7DJ8/PCC88 variants.  With 7 volt heaters they last along time on 6.3V.  There are many out there from Telefunken, Amperex, Philips, Matsushita, etc. @ $50.00/ea price point.  Very much worth your consideration.
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jbtrio

Yes those 7DJ8's are very good for less money than the other variants.
The Matsushita from Japan were made from Mullard tooling and supposed to sound good.
Good heads up, P.I.
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P.I.

Quote from: jbtrio on May 29, 2021, 11:09:13 AM
Yes those 7DJ8's are very good for less money than the other variants.
The Matsushita from Japan were made from Mullard tooling and supposed to sound good.
Good heads up, P.I.

:thumb:
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S Clark

I really like the Austrian Valvo 7dj8 tubes.  They were my tube of choice in my early model Dodd battery pre. 
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Pre-Dodd
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Phonopre-Hagermann,Jolida,GSlee   
Cable-AudioSensibility Wywires TWL
Cartridge-Dynavector,Sumiko
Tonearm-PioneerP3,Jelco
Rythmic sub

shadowlight

#10
Quote from: S Clark on May 28, 2021, 02:48:23 PM
There are always a ton of 6922 tubes out there. For low noise, I've used Philips/Sylvania JAN. They used to be cheap, still reasonable.  Probably a set of 5 you back $80-100.   
https://www.ebay.com/itm/234020401105?hash=item367cb3efd1:g:MRoAAOSwOtRgc3p1

If you are looking for NOS, what about the Russians?  Both tone and noise are really quite nice.  6N1P or 6N23P Voskhods or Reflector.  My late friend Gary Dodd preferred them to the EH he had been using in his phono pre. 

How many do you need?  I might be able to let you try some out of my stock of extras.

Scott,
I am ok with the NOS 6n23p.  Looking to get 2 pair each of different type so I have spares.  I did not realize you could use 6n1p in place of 6922.  Yeah, I had a bunch of 6922 when I had Gary's preamp but when I sold it I passed those tubes along to the buyer  :duh

I will pickup Sylvania from Jim Cross @ Vacuumtubesinc.  I will also see if he has any 7308.

shadowlight

#11
Quote from: jbtrio on May 29, 2021, 08:07:59 AM
Hey Dee,
The Tesla E88cc gold pins are nice tubes for not so much money. I'm using them in my phonostage after my Amperex SQ tubes started getting noisy. They are very quite and have a nice tonal balance.

Hey Joe,

How is everything going?  Everyone here is doing well.  Yep, I have reached out to a dealer about the Tesla.

The phono uses 6922/e88cc and 6n2p - https://www.lab12.gr/product/melto2/

rollo

Quote from: S Clark on May 29, 2021, 09:57:05 PM
I really like the Austrian Valvo 7dj8 tubes.  They were my tube of choice in my early model Dodd battery pre.

  The Valvo 12AT7 is a winner as well. Good call.


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rollo

  Bought 2 pair Tesla 6922 from Tube Monger. Was surprised that they are now preferred to my Mullard Gold pins. THX Joe.


charles
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jbtrio

Your welcome Charles! Are they the one with crossed swords and 32 on the glass? If so they are the better ones.
Not as good as the top 6922 and 7308's but pretty close and a lot cheaper!👍
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