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The Market => Group Buys, Groupons, and Tours => Topic started by: Carlman on February 08, 2007, 09:25:39 AM
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John at Black Sand Cable (http://www.blacksandcable.com) has offered to provide a discount for his cables if we order as a group.
I'll be glad to orchestrate the order, and then distribute all the orders to each person. I'm trying to keep this as simple for John as possible in hopes of a better discount. I'm also sending him a T-shirt for our gratitude! :)
I think it's tremendous that John is doing this and I think it's a great opportunity to get his already excellent-value cords at a discount!
So, step up if interested.... and tell your friends. I'd like to at least gauge interest now and see if we have enough interest to get a dozen cords ordered. Reply here with questions and email orders to BSCGB@AudioNervosa.com
Thanks,
Carl
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OK, I've gotten the official go-ahead from John and he's offering a GREAT discount on his cables. If you've EVER been on the fence, now's the time to try these wonderful cables.
I'm very excited about this and hope everyone can benefit from John's generosity. So... here are the details...
Discounts (on entire group buy quantity)
6 – 12 Cords 25% discount off the posted web-site pricing
13 – 30 Cords 30% discount off the posted web-site pricing
31 – 35 Cords 35% discount off the posted web-site pricing
35+ we will cross this bridge when we get there ;)
Note: You must be a member of AudioNervosa and include your member name if you email me, send Paypal, check, etc.
Payment and Shipping:
Shipping cost is $5 per cable up to 9-foot length.
All orders must be placed and money sent by March 9, 2007.
You can use paypal or a check to me.
Please contact me by email, BSCGB@audionervosa.com and include your username in the subject and I will reply with payment details.
I will send 1 order to BSC for all orders. In the US, I will distribute and ship all cables to the people who ordered them.
Outside the US, the cords will be drop-shipped directly and BSC has offered free shipping in Canada! (Others please contact me via PM or BSC for actual cost but you will get a 50% discount!)
Once I have received all the cables from BSC, I will send an update and let everyone know that I'll be shipping them. Please be patient. This is a 1-month group-buy. I dragged it out a little because it's fairly rare and I wanted to make sure everyone knew about it.
I will update this thread as new information arises.
Thanks,
Carl
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Smokin'! Nice work!! =D>
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I wish you fellas the best of luck w/ the group buy. I also wish I could help out, but at the moment, about the only place I could put another PC is on my frig. :lol:
That said, when the time comes that I *do* get another component or build another system (a distinct possibility), all PCs will be Silver Refs.
John is the man, and his cables are amazing.
If you doubt it, try it. Only your bank account will regret it.
-Jim
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Can't somebody out there please buy about 30 cables, so I can be the 31st at 35 off? hmmm.. maybe John would take my two Violet Z1's in trade
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Well, if you're #1 and there are 30 people after you... you still get the big discount! Spread the word! :)
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I would be interested in this group buy.
can we pick and choose what cable we want?
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Yes! Basically you'll send me your order for whatever you want... and I will put them on the big order I send BSC...
I will need the type, size, and color (if applicable) and then your name, address, etc. I will reply with instructions for sending payment. I will need payment by early March.
Please contact me by email, BSCGB@Audionervosa.com and include your username in the subject. That would REALLY help.
Thanks,
Carl
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Some clarification, Carl. So if we buy a total of 30 Violets, plus one Silver, that would be 35% off on each of them?
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That's the way I understood it from John at BSC.... As the size of the order goes up, the amount of the discount goes up. So, if we get 31 cables total, regardless of which type, there would be a discount of 35% on all of them! :)
I'll send John a PM just to be sure but I'm 99% sure about this.
Thanks,
Carl
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That's the way I understood it from John at BSC.... As the size of the order goes up, the amount of the discount goes up. So, if we get 31 cables total, regardless of which type, there would be a discount of 35% on all of them! :)
I'll send John a PM just to be sure but I'm 99% sure about this.
Thanks,
Carl
I'm not paying any attention to what the actual model of the cord is, only the quantity involved. You guys can mix and match however you like. Doesn’t matter to me at all.
For those looking for a Silver Reference MKV this may be your chance to get a great deal on one. 35% off a Silver Reference MKV would be under what they go for on auction at Audiogon! :D
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Very nice deal....I'll see how many are on the list in early March, probably for 1, possibly for 2.
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I'm in for three. Do we have any other's who have committed?
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With your 3, that makes 9 so far... not including max or any others who have expressed interest but not committed.
-C
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I might be interested in 2 or 3 Silvers, depending on some other sales I have going, but I'd really like to see it get to at least 30 off, preferably 35. Tom
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I am hedging just like everybody else -- put me down for a couple if you get to 35% or more.
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I haven't read all the posts on this thread yet, so this may have already been resolved - but whatever system we use perhaps should go in the first post???
I will be taking 4-6. How about for the "hedgers," of which I may be one, we agree on an absolute commitment date and send our checks. We should all agree to a minimum threhold for purchase, say 25% discount or better to make the purchase, then the people with a lower threshold will help make it happen for those with a higher threshold, and we all win. This may mean that we have to send a check for the highest dicount threshold amount, e.g., 35%, which will be the smallest amount, then one for the next threshold, which will be relatively small, then one for the next threshold, etc...We could put "35%" on the first check, then the remainder of the checks, which will be 5% each.
Carl, please feel free to shoot this down completely. It's your deal and we are all very very appreciative! \:D/
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Doug, I like your concept.... but I think we could easily have 30% off right now.
If all the hedgers and definites committed for real, we'd bypass the 25% range and shoot to 30%.. I think I counted about 11 or 12 cables that people were interested in so far. Hell, if you did your 6, that's 25% already. Just another 7 and we're at 30.
Is another 5% that important? (That's like $12 on a Violet or Chromium)
Plus, this is only the first week of the announcement of this group buy. Response has been great so far.
My thoughts are that if you are interested, just go for it. If you're waiting for 35% instead of 30, I'd question how serious you were in the first place. (no offense intended) I'm pretty sure we're going to hit 30 based on the response so far, though.
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Very cool Carl! 8)
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it's $25 per cable for every 5% for the ref mk4. I am just a cheap bargain hunter. :oops: Can we get to 50% ? :D
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OK... well so far I've had 1 person send an email to the bscgb@audionervosa.com email address with a commitment. I've had a couple others in PM, in this thread, etc...
If you are truly interested and ready to commit, please send an email with your name, shipping address, and username to the bscgb@audionervosa.com address so I can keep it organized.
Thanks,
Carl
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Update:
We are VERY close to getting 30%. I'm waiting to hear back from 1 person... and if he's in, we're officially at 30%... I'll post back when I hear.
Thanks,
Carl
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OK, a LOT has happened since the last update...
We have approximately (but pretty close) to 24 cables committed. So, we're definitely at 30% now... and only 6 away from getting 35%.
There are a few folks that don't know exactly which cable or length yet, that's OK, we still have a week left.
Please just send me an email (to bscgb@audionervosa.com) with your final decision and include:
Cable Type (Silver Ref, Violet, Chromium, Black Max)
Length (1m, 2m, 3m, or the number of inches)
Your name and address
I will reply with the total including discount and shipping.
If you pay with Paypal, you pay the 3% fees. I prefer MO's. I will not make the order until I've received everyone's payment. The group buy ends on March 9th.
Thanks,
Carl
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Given your schedule and workload, the fact that you're also handling the group buy is beyond commendable IMHO. You've done us a great service in providing this site to begin with, and taking care of the membership in this way is above and beyond.
I have no place for additional cables at the present time, but I offer my thanks nonetheless. Well done, my friend.
-Jim
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C'mon Jim, they make handsome bowties!
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C'mon Jim, they make handsome bowties!
They're relatively flexible, but they aren't *that* flexible. :wink:
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OK, we're at 29 cables. 2 more and we're at 35%... OK, Hedger's... here's your wake up call! Get the Silver Ref if you can afford it... best PC I've ever heard.
-C
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OK, we're at 29 cables. 2 more and we're at 35%... OK, Hedger's... here's your wake up call! Get the Silver Ref if you can afford it... best PC I've ever heard.
-C
Jeeez, I guess I'm going to be a busy boy soon! :D
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Yes.... yes you will.... Better buy some extra purple techflex... lots of violet orders... ;)
Which reminds me... the violet comes in 2 colors now, Black or Violet.....
So, when we get the final discount/pricing together, be sure to include the color in your order. If not specified, it'll be the same color as the ones pictured on the main page of the BSC site.
Thanks,
Carl
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OK, just got an order for 2 Silver Ref's... that's it... we're officially in the 35% range... woo-hoo!!! :) :) :)
If you want to figure out your price based on this discount here's the formula:
Go here: http://www.blacksandcable.com/cords.html
For the length you want, take 35% off.
Add $5 per cable shipping
Add 3% Paypal fees if paying with Paypal
That will give you your total.
I will close the group buy on March 9th. At that point, I'll need all funds to be sent. Once ALL payments are received, I'll send the order to John.
Thanks,
Carl
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That's great! I have posted this group buy on Audioasylum on Saturday, I hope it helped. Carl, I will let you know what connectors and length do I need by tomorrow, thank you for doing this for us!
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Yes.... yes you will.... Better buy some extra purple techflex... lots of violet orders... ;)
That surprises me. :shock:
I realize the Violet is half the price, but with John offering 35% off, I figured he'd spend the next 3 months doing nothing but building Silver Refs.
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Me too, DU. At 35% off, the Silver Ref is a no-brainer... there's just no downside. But, I have heard there are some digital applications that have a known 'synergistic' match with the Violet so, I can understand its popularity.
-C
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OK, I've gotten some questions sent via email and thought it'd be helpful as you finalize your order:
1. Will there be more discounts over 35 cables?
2. Can special terminations be used, such as Oyaide's?
1. At this point, the group-buy exceeded John and I's wildest dreams. The good news is that you get 35% off any cable you buy through March 9. There is no bad news but there will not be any further discounting.
2. If you can order it here: http://www.blacksandcable.com/cords.html it is part of the group buy. So, no special terminations for this group buy.
Thanks,
Carl
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At this point, the group-buy exceeded John and I's wildest dreams.
Great !!!
Their excellent power cables.....and well worth owning....and at 35% off....nice !!!! \:D/
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Carl, I sent you a couple of emails but haven't received a reply. Please let me know, thanks. And great job organising this Group Buy!
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I know Carl's BUSY with actual life right now, I'm sure he'll be back to you soon.
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Me too, DU. At 35% off, the Silver Ref is a no-brainer...
Even at that discount, I just can't will myself to spend 1k on three power cords. I maybe making a big mistake, but I am going to be going with the Violet cords at just about half the price. I figure they still have to be a huge step up from my $49 Absolute power cords.
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Me too, DU. At 35% off, the Silver Ref is a no-brainer...
Even at that discount, I just can't will myself to spend 1k on three power cords. I maybe making a big mistake, but I am going to be going with the Violet cords at just about half the price. I figure they still have to be a huge step up from my $49 Absolute power cords.
That's understandable. I haven't heard the Violet, but I'm sure it's a great cable. I can't bring myself to believe John builds anything *BUT* great cables.
And yeah, I suspect the upgrade will be easily noticeable. Maybe so much so that you'll begin to wonder what it'd be like with Silver Refs in the system. :wink:
Regards,
-Jim
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Me too, DU. At 35% off, the Silver Ref is a no-brainer...
Even at that discount, I just can't will myself to spend 1k on three power cords. I maybe making a big mistake, but I am going to be going with the Violet cords at just about half the price. I figure they still have to be a huge step up from my $49 Absolute power cords.
Sorry to break the news to you, but if you just heard the change from the Z1 to the Silver that just happened in my system today (even cold out of the boxes) that $1k would beg to fly out of your pocket. They are THAT much better - absolutely glorious. Can't imagine what they're like after a couple of weeks. Tom
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Tom...
They are THAT much better - absolutely glorious.
Details ? What sounds different ? Thanks Tom.... 8)
Chris
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Tom...
They are THAT much better - absolutely glorious.
Details ? What sounds different ? Thanks Tom.... 8)
Chris
To be quite honest I'm having trouble getting all the words around it. Unfortunately I have to leave on a trip for about 10 days, so won't get much time.
Two things that have happened for sure though- The bass extension seems to go even deeper than before and there is a distinctness around each instrument in the bass that just is not there in the Z1 or the X-DC. More significantly is I've always had some "edge" in the upper mids that I assumed was all of my associated gear (mostly the BEL's) and the Merlins just being ruthlessly revealing. Now ALL of that edge is gone and it is totally smoothed out. I used to wonder before each song whether I'd get Jekyll or Hyde in terms of listening pleasure. Now it is sweet and liquid in a way that doesn't leave all the inner detail off the table too. The music flows much better from loud to soft and back to loud again where called for.
Sorry, it's really kind of hard to explain (I'm obviously not a reviewer), but it's one of the few times for me other than changing speakers, where the sound has been truly transformed (not incrementally) in a big way (for the better).
Way to go John - nice work!
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Two things that have happened for sure though- The bass extension seems to go even deeper than before and there is a distinctness around each instrument in the bass that just is not there in the Z1 or the X-DC. More significantly is I've always had some "edge" in the upper mids that I assumed was all of my associated gear (mostly the BEL's) and the Merlins just being ruthlessly revealing. Now ALL of that edge is gone and it is totally smoothed out. I used to wonder before each song whether I'd get Jekyll or Hyde in terms of listening pleasure. Now it is sweet and liquid in a way that doesn't leave all the inner detail off the table too. The music flows much better from loud to soft and back to loud again where called for.
I think you did a *great* job of describing them, Tom. I had much of the same in my own system.
FWIW, here's what I posted about them a while back -
* Black background (VERY quiet!)
* Very fast, but not unnaturally so (i.e., nothing is truncated)
* Supremely detailed without inducing fatigue (MUCH more articulate bass in my system)
* Imparts little if any of its own sonic signature
* Improved pitch, timbre, tonality and pace make for a more real presentation
Based on my experience with John's PCs, I'll bet dollars to donuts that anyone with a reasonably resolving system will come to many of the same conclusions.[/color]
Again, really well done, Tom. :D
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You guys are not making this decision easy for me. Now what do I have around here that I can sell :shock:
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Sorry, Mike! Just being honest! :wink:
-Jim
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Carl,
Put me down for three Silver Refs. Thanx for doing the dirty work!
Dana
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Thanks Blue...
We've got 5 days left... however, I just learned I will be out of town this coming weekend. I will try to get the spreadsheet completed of who's ordering what posted this week. Once I get back in town, I'll finalize the spreadsheet and post a 'who owes' sheet. Once all the cables are paid, I'll make the order to BSC.
MO or Paypal is fine.
To figure out your total:
Get the price from the BSC website for what cable you're ordering.
Subtract 35%
Add $5 per cable shipping
Add 3% if sending money for Paypal
Send Paypal Payments to "GroupBuy@Audionervosa.com"
I'll post later this week with physical address instructions.
Thanks,
Carl
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OK Carl,
I change my mind after all these cyber arm-twistings. I would like the 2 silver refs instead of 3 violets. Thanks.
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OK Carl, I change my mind after all these cyber arm-twistings. I would like the 2 silver refs instead of 3 violets. Thanks.
:lol: Cool! 8)
BTW, I sent an email to you but it was rejected...
-C
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Hi Carl,
Please include me in on the group buy.
Also, I didn't see this addressed in the previous posts so maybe someone can fill me in, will BSC still be honoring it's 45 day return policy? Not that I think any will go back.... :shock:
Thanks,
Dean
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No return policy for the group buy. If too many people returned their cords, then the rest of the people in the group buy would owe additional money because not enough cords would have sold for 35% disscount.
Biggie.
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No return policy for the group buy. If too many people returned their cords, then the rest of the people in the group buy would owe additional money because not enough cords would have sold for 35% disscount.
Biggie.
Are you buying cables?
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I don't remember reading that....perhaps John or Carl can clarify
WEEZ
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Just a couple of thoughts:
Don't worry about return policies, as you can sell these on Audiogon for a small if any loss. These cables are hot and don't last long when they come up for sale. You also get the opportunity to try them, which is worth something.
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Well,
I have been putting the 2 used silver ref mk v's that I got recently through the paces and I don't think I will be returning them. :)
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Carl,
Call me non-decisive but I'm back in on the group buy. Please put me down for three five foot Silver Reference Power Cords, one 20 amp, and two 15 amp. I will email Black Sand to let them know the 20 amp request is coming. I'll be paying via Paypal. Thanx for doing this for us all.
Dana
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Well I need a cheap cord, sign me up for a 2m el cheapo Black MaX II.
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I don't remember reading that....perhaps John or Carl can clarify
WEEZ
I already did "clarify".
Biggie.
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Hi Carl,
Please put me in for 2 Silver ref.V cords.
1meter and 5ft.
Joe
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You guys are not making this decision easy for me. Now what do I have around here that I can sell :shock:
If it makes you feel any better, they got to me too and I just changed my order to a Silver Ref.
Now, if my Onix CDP sells I'll actually have the money to pay for it.
And I'll even go so far as to admit that this is the second time I've changed my order :-)
One of these days I'll get this all right.
-- Jim
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Oh man, I have really been struggling over which cable to try, Violet vs. the Silver. In my email with John he feels that the Silver is slightly warmer vs. a more neutral Violet. From other things I have read the midrange is slightly more forward on the violet. Funny thing is I am not really sure if I want more warmth or not, but I definately know that I do not want more midrange in my system.
I have a lot of Consonance gear that already has a strong midrange.
My gear to be powered:
Modwright swl 9.0se
Consonance Cyber 800 tube monoblocks
Consonance ref 2.2 MKII tubed cd player
Anyway it looks like I am down for 2 silvers for the amps. I am Canadian and will put the order in tomorrow using the email link you have provided.
Now give me some support that I am making the correct decision :D
Thank you to both, those involved, and to those that purchased, so we could get such a great deal.
Mike
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Hi Carl,
Please include me in on the group buy.
Also, I didn't see this addressed in the previous posts so maybe someone can fill me in, will BSC still be honoring it's 45 day return policy? Not that I think any will go back.... :shock:
Thanks,
Dean
Hi Carl,
I need to change my request from the Silver Ref to the Violets.
Just corresponded with John(great guy btw) and he recommends the Violet Z1 for my Classe CAM-350s.
So I will be ordering (3) 6' Violet Z1 cables(and saving a bunch of cash as well :o )!
Thanks,
Dean
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Hey Dean,
I also have Classe Cam-350's, and I am curious what John mentioned to you about the Violet?
Thanks
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Doug,
The Silver Reference MKV is what I normally recommend for amps but given Dean's overall system I felt that a power cord that stays out of the way (neutral) would be the way to go in his case.
I'm a former Classe owner myself and really enjoyed both the Ref and the VZ1 but if you are happy with your overall sound now, go neutral and go with the VZ1. If you want the Blackest possible background and don't mind a bit of warmth, then go with the Ref.
Does that help or did I just make your decision tougher?
:D
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Far be it for me to disagree with John, but I recommend you fellas try both in your system if/when you have an opportunity.
I haven't tried the Violet, but the Silver Refs are exceedingly neutral in my system. In fact, they replaced a cord some describe as being slightly warm (myself included, but it was nice :wink:), and the additional clarity and realness was immediately evident upon using the Silver Refs. As it turned out, I didn't need artificial warmth in my system as much as I needed a cable that didn't allow the mids to harden or the highs to get edgy. The Silver Refs did that and a whole lot more.
Again, I don't necessarily disagree with John; I haven't heard the Violet, and the amps in question are known to him (not me). That said, all this is system dependent, and depending on your source, pre-amp, speakers and other cabling, you may not have the same needs or realize the same results. What I *do* know is what I hear in *my* system, and the only warmth I hear is that created by the music.
-Jim
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Thanks guys,
Both helpful responses!
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Thanks guys,
Both helpful responses!
Doug,
check your pm box.
Dean
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I should have just stuck with my standard line last night (teach me for posting at darn near 2:00am!):
Everything is system dependant! What sounds warm in one system, may sound completely neutral in another! Everybody needs to keep that in mind.
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I should have just stuck with my standard line last night (teach me for posting at darn near 2:00am!):
Everything is system dependant! What sounds warm in one system, may sound completely neutral in another! Everybody needs to keep that in mind.
Hi John,
Sorry if I ignited a powder keg...not my intent to confuse potential buyers.
I would assume most that have spent any time in the pursuit of audio excellence would have figured out by now it's all about "synergy". As I was lucky enough to have amps that you were familiar with, you were able to give me your opinion on what "might" work better in this application. For anyone to draw a boilerplate assessment re your cables would in my opinion be a big mistake.
As they say..."try before you buy"; this is probably why you(and others) offer home trial periods!! 8)
Regards,
Dean
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No worries at all! it's all good. :D
My fault for posting at 2:00am.....I should have been in bed.....not giving out advice. :roll:
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Carl,
I sent you a pm last week, but never got a reply so I thought I'd try here.
If there's still time, I'd like to order (3) violets - 6ft long in black.
Thanks for all of the work.
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FYI, I had some unexpected work and travel was involved... so, sorry I have not gotten back to everyone.
It's going to take me a few days to get this completely organized.
One thing that would REALLY help...
If you have made any changes to you order, Or, did not send all the info needed to complete the order, please send a new email and be sure to include the word "final order" in the subject with the following info:
AN username:
Name and Address:
Cable Model: Length: Color:
Total: (See website, minus 35%, plus $5/ea per cable, plus 3% for Paypal)
Payment Method: (MO or Paypal is OK, check is ok if I know you or we've chatted about it.)
Thank you very much... Please be patient with me... it'll be a couple of days before I get the final order ready... and I'll need to post it here to be sure everyone is cool with what I've got.... and it's a LOT of cables at this point... Anyone that wants to help, PM me now!
Carl
P.S. Bobrex, and anyone else that's asked, yes, you're in... but after midnight tonight, that's the end of the GB.
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I placed my order (2 silvers) today with BSC. If I am the only Canadian it looks like I'll get them first. :P :)
Thanks,
Mike
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I placed my order (2 silvers) today with BSC. If I am the only Canadian it looks like I'll get them first. :P :)
Thanks,
Mike
No way, Mike, I already paypaled John yesterday for two Violet, if first come, first serve counts, I probably the first one!
Dan
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Violets :roll: I spit on Violets. I am the higher paying customer...I have priority :wink: lol
Mike
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Sorry if I ignited a powder keg...not my intent to confuse potential buyers.
I would assume most that have spent any time in the pursuit of audio excellence would have figured out by now it's all about "synergy". As I was lucky enough to have amps that you were familiar with, you were able to give me your opinion on what "might" work better in this application. For anyone to draw a boilerplate assessment re your cables would in my opinion be a big mistake.
As they say..."try before you buy"; this is probably why you(and others) offer home trial periods!! 8)
Regards,
Dean
Well said, Dean. 8)
FWIW, I don't believe a powder keg or anything else was ignited. However, if my post is the keg to which you refer, it was actually John's comments that prompted me to post, not yours.
Violets :roll: I spit on Violets. I am the higher paying customer...I have priority :wink:
:lol: :lol: :lol:
-Jim
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Violets :roll: I spit on Violets. I am the higher paying customer...I have priority :wink: lol
Mike
OK, spit on two silver, I am going to buy four silver instead two Violet, one for CDP, one for preamp, one for amp, and last one for my dishwasher. now I am a higher volume buyer, I have priority than you, wealthy Mike. :P :P :P
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Carl,
I placed my order a few days back, have not got a reply.
Sure you're busy now :) but where should I send a MO?
Alex
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Tick....tick.....tick.....times running out.
After you guy's get your power cords, be sure to post what difference's you hear.....I know I heard a difference. :D
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Violets :roll: I spit on Violets. I am the higher paying customer...I have priority :wink: lol
Mike
OK, spit on two silver, I am going to buy four silver instead two Violet, one for CDP, one for preamp, one for amp, and last one for my dishwasher. now I am a higher volume buyer, I have priority than you, wealthy Mike. :P :P :P
When you get them in......can I have a couple?
Thanks Dan.......you are the man
Mike
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Everything is system dependant! What sounds warm in one system, may sound completely neutral in another! Everybody needs to keep that in mind.
Sorry if I ignited a powder keg...not my intent to confuse potential buyers.
As they say..."try before you buy"; this is probably why you(and others) offer home trial periods!! 8)
Regards,
Dean
Let me say... I tried both Violet and Silver in my setup and prefer Violet for its bit more energetic presentation.
My components have tube rectified PS.
Alex
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Violets :roll: I spit on Violets. I am the higher paying customer...I have priority :wink: lol
Mike
OK, spit on two silver, I am going to buy four silver instead two Violet, one for CDP, one for preamp, one for amp, and last one for my dishwasher. now I am a higher volume buyer, I have priority than you, wealthy Mike. :P :P :P
When you get them in......can I have a couple?
Thanks Dan.......you are the man
Mike
Hey Mike:
We had a bit fun here, hadn't we? As matter of fact, John suggested me to buy Violet terminated with Oyaide 079 for a warmer sound, and I just got a email from John that he already shipped cords, that is unbelievable, I thought I am going to wait at least two weeks.
Dan
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Yeah Dan, I was really struggling over the decision of the purchase of the silver or the Violet. I am hoping I made the right decision. It is not the best time for me financially for making the purchase but with this kind of deal I felt it foolish not to.
I checked my inbox and nope no delivery email......I guess you win :( :)
I hope you enjoy them and be sure to give us a review.
Thanks,
Mike
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Yeah Dan, I was really struggling over the decision of the purchase of the silver or the Violet. I am hoping I made the right decision. It is not the best time for me financially for making the purchase but with this kind of deal I felt it foolish not to.
I checked my inbox and nope no delivery email......I guess you win :( :)
I hope you enjoy them and be sure to give us a review.
Thanks,
Mike
You are right, Mike, it was a tough call for buying something that you have never tried them in you own system, plus it is income tax season, after contributed a big amout of money into RRSP last month, I realy can't afford any thing over $700 US, and I'm still waiting for a refund for a pair of IC I returned them to Audio Metallurgy, which is over $300US.
John shipped cords via Xpresspost, it will only take two or three days to get to Winnipeg, if we are in same city, I can bring mine to your place or bring yours to my place to try out, do you live in Winnipeg?
Dan
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Look at my name again. :)
Where abouts in town do you live? I doubt you are my neighbour though as where I live probably doesn't have a whole lot of people paying over $800 for a couple of power cords. I am a poor boy living in ghetto but just have a love for this stuff and the feeling that I get with the playback of high quality music.
Mike
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Look at my name again. :)
Where abouts in town do you live? I doubt you are my neighbour though as where I live probably doesn't have a whole lot of people paying over $800 for a couple of power cords. I am a poor boy living in ghetto but just have a love for this stuff and the feeling that I get with the playback of high quality music.
Mike
Mike:
You do LIVE in goddamned Winnipeg! I'm in Fort Richmond, where about you? Who cares which part of the town we live, we have THE same hobby, man, only that matters!
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I live in the North End.
I think we officially hi-jacked this thread. Us Peggers are known for being bully's. We are going to get it when Carl pops in. I better put my disguise on and play it cool. 8)
Mike
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I live in the North End.
I think we officially hi-jacked this thread. Us Peggers are known for being bully's. We are going to get it when Carl pops in. I better put my disguise on and play it cool. 8)
Mike
Check your PM.
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I live in the North End.
I think we officially hi-jacked this thread. Us Peggers are known for being bully's. We are going to get it when Carl pops in. I better put my disguise on and play it cool. 8)
Mike
Mike,
did you get my PM this time?
Dan
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OK, I've gotten some updated orders and such... however, I've got family in town this weekend after getting back from an unexpected business trip out of town.... Bear with me on getting together the list.
If I haven't responded to your email, please be patient.
Anyone that wants to help, step forward.
Thanks,
Carl
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I live in the North End.
I think we officially hi-jacked this thread. Us Peggers are known for being bully's. We are going to get it when Carl pops in. I better put my disguise on and play it cool. 8)
Mike
No need to worry boys.....the guy who is sending all of you your respective power cords is a Fort Rouge guy himself!
Go Jets go! :D
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I'm glad John is dealing with you guys... ;)
I'm not sure exactly how many orders John has covered but my guess is around 15-20... maybe more?
I just finished the spreadsheet and we have 49 cables if all is correct.
I'm trying to figure out a way to post it so you can review and send me corrections if needed.
Thanks,
Carl
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Holy smokes, that's a lot of power cables :shock:
A big thanks again to Carl and John for putting this together :D
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Holy smokes, that's a lot of power cables :shock:
A big thanks again to Carl and John for putting this together :D
Bettcha we see a lot of used power cables show up on Audiogon in the very near future! :wink:
Also want to offer my thanks to Carl & John for making this happen.
Oh yeah...are they here yet? :lol:
Dean
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Bettcha we see a lot of used power cables show up on Audiogon in the very near future! :wink:
As long as there not mine, that is a good thing! :D
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Holy smokes, that's a lot of power cables :shock:
A big thanks again to Carl and John for putting this together :D
Bettcha we see a lot of used power cables show up on Audiogon in the very near future! :wink:
Also want to offer my thanks to Carl & John for making this happen.
Oh yeah...are they here yet? :lol:
Dean
Ditto on the BIG THANKS!
Not hear yet but enroute....should only be a couple of days now :D
Mike
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OK, Here's the spreadsheet of what I have gathered from PM's, emails, posts, etc. I'm sure it's not perfect.
http://www.audionervosa.com/bscgb/BSC_GB.htm
Please EMAIL to BSCGB@Audionervosa.com with "Correction" in the email subject with the exact change to your order.
The order will be submitted on Friday this week to ensure everyone's payment has time to get to me. If I haven't received any money by then, your name and order will fall off the list. I will update the spreadsheet by Thursday with changes and have one last review.
Thanks,
Carl
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Ok, I've updated the spreadsheet (http://www.audionervosa.com/bscgb/BSC_GB.htm). I added some pretty colors, too. ;)
I get the feeling that there are several folks in the GB that don't read AN, including this topic. So, I feel certain there are going to be some that drop off, which I don't mind... less work for me. ;) However, it's their loss because the topics here have certainly improved in the last few weeks... Lots of interesting discussions to read... I hope that trend continues! :)
Thanks to everyone for your participation on AN, you're making this a really nice community. :) :) :)
-Carl
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Yeah, I remember back when all the threads were about closure and catharsis. I'd rather add slowly and the right folks than create a stampede and get the bad with the good. Of course this is if I'm writing the script which I can't do.
So far so good, fellas!
Hey, the Nervosa shirts are sweet! Nice work, Carl.
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Carl! You're not going to deprive me of my tea shirt are you??? where do I send you a (Chinese) envelope?
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Yeah, I remember back when all the threads were about closure and catharsis. I'd rather add slowly and the right folks than create a stampede and get the bad with the good.
Yup...I agree, have you seen what's going on over at AudioAsylum?! :shock:
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I've been hearing about it, though I haven't read the threads. That is EXACTLY the type of witchhunting negativity I don't want to get wrapped around.
Life's too short.
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"Yeah, I remember back when all the threads were about closure and catharsis. I'd rather add slowly and the right folks than create a stampede and get the bad with the good. Of course this is if I'm writing the script which I can't do. " It's become a sort of free-for-all over there. Excepting some interesting postings, a sort of aimless sense, punctuated with bouts of in-fighting. We've talked about this before and how to avoid the two extreems; heavy-handed moderation, chaos. I convinced the numbers are the key. Hopefully we will remain undescovered or uninteresting to the howlers and the ego-trippers.
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I have received two cords today, it makes me feel so good just by looking at them, because they are made beautifully. Now I am going to plug them in. Thank you, John for your lightning fast shipping.
Dan
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Hey how could you receive cords before the order was even submitted? Do you have an inside mole or something :lol:
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AJ,
Look at his location. The Canadians and locations other than the US were handled by John of BCS, while we in the US were handled by Carl. John has also taken a few of the larger orders from the US. I think Carl has had a lot to do and so they divided things this way.
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Yes, it's all true... ;)
I will submit the US order this week once I've received everyone's payment. It just worked out easier to divide the Canada/International orders to John and US orders to me...
I'll be checking the mailbox every day for payments... Paypal is your friend at this point... If you haven't already mailed a check, that is.
Thanks,
Carl
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Okay, maybe I'm going blind, but....
Carl I need you address to mail the MO. I'll send it out today.
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It happens.... I sent my address as a reply to all emails a couple of days ago... Please check your email.
Thanks,
Carl
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Thank you very much to all that have followed the rules on this group buy... I'm just 1 guy trying to get this thing organized and I had no idea it would be this popular. Those that dotted the i's and t's really made it easy to keep the order organized.... which is great because that improves the odds for everyone getting their order correctly.
Unfortunately, the final tally is looking a little slim. We've got about 5 no-shows accounting for about 7 cables and 1 person who I think has sent me a check but it's just lagging at the PO. The spreadsheet is updated (http://www.audionervosa.com/bscgb/bsc_gb.htm).. if your name is in green, all is a go.. in yellow, email me today, and in red, stop reading this and email me right now: bscgb@audionervosa.com.
Thanks again to everyone who has made this a success.
-Carl
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OK, GB is officially closed... the order has been sent!
Thanks to everyone for participating!
-Carl
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OK, GB is officially closed... the order has been sent!
Thanks to everyone for participating!
-Carl
Nice work carl, thanks again for everything! 8)
bill2
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Ya, what Bill said. :D
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Thanks Carl for the legwork and cheerleading, and thanks to Black Sand Cables for the great price.
I am psyched to swap out my thin computer cord for a real PC. See if this PC hype is really true. 8) haha
Rich
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Carl,
Thanks for your efforts to make this Group Buy possable. And a good job by John at Black Sands.
martyt :lol:
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Question... are the cables being drop shipped directly from the manufacturer or via AudioNervosa? Got an email from Black Sands saying they are sending me the cable. :?:
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I looked after most folks outside of the USA and a few within the USA. However most orders are going to be drop shipped to Carl.
Please forward me the email you are talking about as I'm in all honesty a little lost. (part of the problem is I don't know your real name!)
sales@blacksandcable.com
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The first batch of cables are on their way to me now... I will probably get most of the cables this week and next... so, they'll be shipping within the next 2 weeks.
-C
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The first batch of cables are on their way to me now... I will probably get most of the cables this week and next... so, they'll be shipping within the next 2 weeks.
-C
Hi Carl,
Wow, very fast work!
I appreciate the volume of cables you are handling, if possible can you let us know as they ship out to us?
Thank you,
b2
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Yes, I'll probably only do 1 or 2 'batches' so, I'll post who's cables shipped when after a batch ships.
-C
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Thanks Carl and John. I guess I should get them by early next week. :P
Time to shift my attention to Grover IC. :wink:
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OK... John has directly shipped some of the orders and I'm sitting on the remainder. Rich has volunteered to help me organize the shipping. I only want to do this once... and it takes 2 people to keep it organized.
I will try to get these out this week.
Thanks,
Carl
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I have boxes, tape, ready to see what $5000 pile of power cords looks like. Wish I bought two now...
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I have boxes, tape, ready to see what $5000 pile of power cords looks like. Wish I bought two now...
big spaghetti.......they will smell nice too
Mike
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You guys underestimate me.....every cord I shipped Carl was pre-boxed and ready to go to it's new owner. He has to wrap a few in shipping paper in the case where I taped a few boxes together and label them but some are ready to go as is! :D
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Well, you sure are efficient! And you make good cords too :lol:
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Yes, Sir. Mine were boxed individually -- kind of like a small pizza. =D>
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Thanks again, John for making my life a lot easier... and the GB a huge success. :) =D>
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Anyone bails out on their cord, let me know!
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Anyone bails out on their cord, let me know!
Anyone got theirs yet? 8-[
ds
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Ric, Bob, Kiru, Gary, Arthur, Martin, Alexander, Jeff, Dean, and Michael's orders are going out via USPS today.
-C
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Anyone bails out on their cord, let me know!
Anyone got theirs yet? 8-[
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I've had mine for over 3 weeks......what's taking you guys so long :D
Mike
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I've had mine for over 3 weeks......what's taking you guys so long :D
Mike
You're just special, Mike! I'm gettin mine tonite!! woohoo. I need another one too, so I'm behind Art in line for any bail outs.
Rich
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Ric, Bob, Kiru, Gary, Arthur, Martin, Alexander, Jeff, Dean, and Michael's orders are going out via USPS today.
-C
Thanks Carl,
This is the first time I am buying a product without knowing how the technology inside is making a difference. Would somebody care to elaborate in what ways the BlackSandCable is technically superior or atleast what is the design philosophy/technology ? I am convinced that it sounds good :-).
When I receive it I will be comparing it with VH Audio, Empirical Audio Magnum, Nordost and Signal cable power cords. I will tell my bias beforehand - Nordost is the winner in my system. It has the maximum dynamics and clarity/ambience which are my two important criteria.
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In case anyone missed out on the buy -
I bought 5 Silver Ref MK V's, so now have two 4' Black Sand Violet Z1's in violet sleeves available (that I bought from Carl a couple months ago).
Contact me via email direct or PM here or AC.
Tom
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OK...guess who got their BS pc's today...Yup, me!! \:D/
Plugged them in, boy do they have a vise-grip hold, wow! :shock:
Can't wait for them to settle in. I have my PAD System Enhancer going thru its cycles and once cooked I will report.
Just 2 things though....
1st; John, thanks for the extra special luv on my cdp cable. 8)
2nd; Carl, I hope you still have enough packing tape left over for everyone else? :P
Thank you both so much!! =D>
ds
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:D
I was able to pick up my package of 3 Silver Ref MkVs Tuesday afternoon. They were sent direct by John Cook/Black Sand. I was able to get them in my system that night around 11 PM - put two on the Odyssey Mono Extremes (w/Klaus's special boards with upgraded components) power amps on front left/right stereo channels, and the third one on the Modwright SWL 9.0 Signature Edition preamp (w/ Bendix 6900s and tube-regulated power supply w/stock Sovtek 5AR4) also serving the front left/right channels.
Having turned off the power to replace the Violet Z1s with Silver Refs, I powered back up and briefly listened to Mozart "Horn Concertos" SACD with Alan Civil and Academy of St. Martin-in-the-Fields, cond. Neville Marriner, and noted some harshness in mids and highs on the horns .Of course this was expected as the capacitors in the amps hadn't recharged thoroughly yet.
(2-channel speakers are Polk SDA-SRS-2 with upgraded silk dome tweeters, Grover S bi-wire speaker cable and custom SDA interconnect cable made by Grover from his UR speaker cable).
Wednesday morning I listened to part of Mussorgsky "Pictures at an Exhibition" SACD, then Mahler 4th Symphony (both Fritz Reiner and Chicago Symphony Orchestra SACD). Sounded possibly a bit "smoother" and bit more bass, more "refined" sounding than I recall with Violets.
Last night and this morning I tried a Violet back on the Modwright linestage with 2 Silver Refs still on the Odyssey Mono Extremes (moved the third Silver Ref to Odyssey HT-3 power amp for center and surround channels).
On 2-channel material this seems to be a very competitive combination to Silver Ref on both preamp and power amps for front l/r -
with the Violet on the preamp seems so far to carry a bit more detail and seems possibly less "constrained."
Immediacy and presence on wonderful Dromedary ("world music from Athens, Georgia) "Quartet" and "Live from the Make Believe" CDs were top notch. I have yet to try these ones with third Silver Ref back on the Modwright however.
I am hearing better overall system synergy and better dynamics with the Silver Refs on the power amps, so think they will stay on those in the long run.
I will use the third Silver Ref to try out on Denon 3910 and on Modwright again.
I should get a Mullard 5AR4 from Andy Bowman (Vintage Tube Services in Michigan) in next couple weeks to replace the stock Sovtek in the Modwright's tube-regulated power supply, so probably repeat any testing after that change in system.
Thanks to John and Black Sand for these highest quality power cords!
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I got my black Violet yesterday. I noticed an improvement over my previous good cable - Nordost Shiva the moment I plugged it in. I listened to it today after 4 or 5 hrs of playtime. I am sure now it is better. Testing with Scherzo: Molto Vivace of Dvorzak's New World Symphony. Previously this RCA Living Stereo was a little fuzzy and instruments were not separated that well. It is very good now. The changes are across the board and so I consider the cable neutral with very low impedence. The impression is one of improved resolution. I thought the Nordost with its very low dielectric insulation would be hard to beat..wow..the Violet does it. Must be some magic inside because nobody seems to know/share the winding topology or any technical features of the product (???) ..
Thanks Carl..great job.. How about group buy II ? I need another 2 or 3 !!! :-)
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I got my black Violet yesterday. I noticed an improvement over my previous good cable - Nordost Shiva the moment I plugged it in. I listened to it today after 4 or 5 hrs of playtime. I am sure now it is better. Testing with Scherzo: Molto Vivace of Dvorzak's New World Symphony. Previously this RCA Living Stereo was a little fuzzy and instruments were not separated that well. It is very good now. The changes are across the board and so I consider the cable neutral with very low impedence. The impression is one of improved resolution. I thought the Nordost with its very low dielectric insulation would be hard to beat..wow..the Violet does it. Must be some magic inside because nobody seems to know/share the winding topology or any technical features of the product (???) ..
In stead of reiterating the above comments, I'll just add my name to the list of very satisfied new BS Violet owners.
I had similar experiences...as CDs I previously had difficulties figuring out what the vocals were saying suddenly became very clear. Dynamics increased; as a result I found my volume dial setting below previous norms to achieve the same levels of full impact & presentation. As for the top end I gained more treble extension w/o any hint of coldness, really impressing me.
Collectively very nice improvements indeed, and with only a couple of full days in the system. I couldn't be happier!
I will not name the PC cables I replaced but I will say they retailed in the thousand dollar + range, and the Violets seemed to out shine them all in almost all areas at its ridiculously modest pricing. I can honestly say, these have to be one of the best power cables I have ever had in my system...and I have had a lot!! Not sure if this is genius at work or just good sound engineering, but I will say this...over-priced cable companies should take note as the days of 1m @ $1000 are over. [-X
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My new Silver Ref., which is a very flexible cable, has found a home powering my tube DAC. I had the chance to do some A/B listening alternating the Silver Ref with my previous cable, which was a Sonoran Plateau (a very good cable). Definite sonic improvements were noted in addition to the ease of installation owing to this cable's flexibility. The most noticable to me were the coherence and presence of voices, both male and female. Voices really took center stage with the BSC. Vocals were very clear wth stunning detail and a soundstage and presence that had depth and weight. The overall presentation was more detailed with an easier ability to hear separate instruments across the soundstage. Did I mention that this cable is extremely flexible? Oh, I guess I did, several times. (Why, because I have an unusual and difficult set up for my equipment and I have had several REALLY frustrating experiences with some good but rigid PC's in the past that have brought me over the edge to that dreaded condition known as audio erectile dysfunction, with the BSC I can quit the support group!!)
BTW, in the group buy I also picked up a Violet Z1 which I don't really need. If anyone missed out on the group buy PM me.
thanks again to John and Carl for orchestrating the GB
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Glad to hear so many are enjoying the cables and the value!
I feel like this was a rare opportunity and I really appreciate what John did for us here. The best way to thank me is to spread the word about our great little forum... I think the best way to thank John is to post reviews... (or of course, buy more! ;) )
Thanks to all for your participation. This was such a success, I'm thinking of doing more group buys as time goes on.... so keep an eye in the GB area.
-Carl
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Nice to see others enjoying their Black Sand power cords....they really are excellent !!
You did a good job with the group buy Carl...... :beer:
Chris
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Congrats, guys. 8)
I knew only your wallets would have any potential for buyer's remorse, and with the discount you received, even they shouldn't be hurting too badly. :wink:
-Jim
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Hey guys,
I put a Want To Buy in the classified section, but if anyone has a Black Sand Violet Z1 or Silver MKV to sell, please get in touch with me. PM or email:
gauravv AT avanade DOT com
Hate missing good deals like these!
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After the GB I bought another one direct from John. He is a pleasure to deal with. Of course, his cables would be worth enduring a lot more hassle, as you might expect from a small hifi seller, but you get the best of both worlds, great products and service. Thanks!
Rich
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For all those that have received their Black Sand power cords.....how'd it turn out ??? You can post a review here > http://www.audionervosa.com/phpbb2/viewforum.php?f=12
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I hope there will be another group buy on the Black Sand cables. I own two Violet Z1 with Oyaide 079 and love them and I didn't see this buy until a few days after it was closed.
For the next group buy, count me in for:
Cord: Silver Reference Mk V
Quantity: 2x
Length: 6ft (1.85m)
If someone can shoot me an e-mail (jr at jrgeoffrion dot com) if/when there is a next group buy, I'd really appreciate it.
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Add me to list...if there is ever another group buy.
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Yep I am interested in Violets if there is another group buy.
Thanks!
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I'm not against doing another Group Buy if demand warrants it. You guys tell me and we can go from there. :D
This time around it will be much shorter however. Basically it will come to an end far sooner and I will probably just look after it myself to save Rich and Carl the hassle of getting involved with it.
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Just want to say that I am extremely pleased with my power cords. All the usual superlatives, e.g., a veil was lifted, everything clearer but not overly etched, very well balanced sound, and most importantly-feel no need to investigate other types (brands) of pwer cords. (Time to get off of the treadmill.) I will definitely purchase more Black Sand power cords, group buy or otherwise.
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Alright! I'm in for another group buy...put me down for two Violets. I'm on vacation right now, but will measure for correct lengths when I get home in a week.
Come on everybody! Lets get an order together!
Will a violet power a high power amp (theta dreadnaught)...my guess is its not the best choice for that. My plan would be to use these on my digital front end - rega apollo and an Anthem D1. Anyone have any thoughts on this?
Also, are all the BlackSand powercables treated cryogenically?
Cheers!
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Also, are all the BlackSand powercables treated cryogenically?
Cheers!
We cryo the following cords:
Statement One
Silver Reference MKV
Violet Z1
Chromium V1
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Will a violet power a high power amp (theta dreadnaught)
I am using a Violet with my 400wpc MacIntosh MC402 and it sounds just dandy :D
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Thanks - I will have to give that a try (as soon as I have a BSPC in my possession). The amp is a big one - around 500 x 5 into 4 ohms - but I think I can do better than the element cord attached to it.
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I've got to figure out my needs...and then decide which PC's to try.
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First group buy was great. Heres hoping for another group buy. :)
Biggie.
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First group buy was great. Heres hoping for another group buy. :)
Biggie.
How many power cords do you people need? :lol:
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Oh no! Here we go again......and I just got enough Violet Z1s for my DAC, AMP and Power Conditioner.
Too soon for a group buy......hold off for a bit while I gain back some bank balance! :)
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Need 2 violet Z1s here...
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...and I could potentially be persuaded to get more than two if we achieve enough orders to get the 30-35% discount!
I understand this buy will be of a shorter duration so we'll have to work harder to spread the word.
Tell your friends!
:D
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I understand this buy will be of a shorter duration so we'll have to work harder to spread the word.
Tell your friends!
Does this mean another group buy is going to happen, or is it still not decided?
Biggie.
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I'll field that one... I spoke to John at BSC and asked that he delay the new GB until we complete a major overhaul to AudioNervosa.com... which should happen very soon.
The new GB appears to be emminent and hopefully John will start a new thread for it under the GB section... however, it'll be at least a week before I'm ready.
I don't want to start something, and have the potential for things to go wrong in the middle of it. I'd like things to be as calm as possible for the next week or so...
Thanks,
Carl
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Thanks for clearing that up Carl. Sounds like a good plan. :)
Biggie.
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Good plan...let's leverage the buy to encourage interest in this forum.
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Sounds like a great plan, LJ... spread the word!
I'll post more about the move when we get the specifics together.
Thanks,
Carl
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Alright! I'm in for another group buy...put me down for two Violets.
Will a violet power a high power amp (theta dreadnaught)...my guess is its not the best choice for that.
Cheers!
Not so! I've got V1s on my Classe CAM-350s and have no problem with constriction. Bottom line for which cable to choose is....based more on "flavor" rather than juice limitations. 8)
bill2
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Thanks for your comments Bill2 - I may give it a try facilitated by the new group buy...
Just out of curiosity, can you describe the power requirements of your Classe's? The reason I ask is the dreadnaught is a 5x500 config (so very high current)...Im just running it on an element cable right now (very similar to signal cables magic power cable) so if the V1 can handle the juice I'm guessing it'll be a sonic improvement. BTW I really wanted to get classe mono blocks in a 5.1 configuration years ago, but didn't work out for me.
Also, can you describe the sonic signature of your V1s? I understand in addition to the great resolution, they are more forward...can they ever be bright or perhaps highlight any edginess in the system? I'm playing a game of chickin in my system currently, balancing very resolving electronics (the theta amp, an anthem d1, apollo CD player, and silver interconnects) against a "warmer" set of speakers and power conditioning (Krell resolutions, and shunyata hydra)...so far so good - but Ill be introducing multiple v1s.
Thanks!
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Thanks for your comments Bill2 - I may give it a try facilitated by the new group buy...
Just out of curiosity, can you describe the power requirements of your Classe's?
Sure...
Frequency response: 20 Hz to 20K Hz, + 0.1 dB
Output Power: 8 Ohm 350 watts
4 Ohm 700 watts
2 Ohm 1200 watts
Maximum Output swing: ± 40V
Also, can you describe the sonic signature of your V1s?
Certainly...
I too had the same concerns before settling on which BS cable to go with. But after a very helpful correspondence(see below) with John at BS, my choice was clear...
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Bill
As a former Classe owner (CA-301), I can tell you from past experience
that you want the Violet Z1. I loved what the Classe brought to the table
and wanted the cord to stay neutral and more or less get out of the way,
the Violet Z1 does that. The Silver Reference is a great cord and I would
love to take more of your money but it leans on the warm side. Depending on
your tastes that may work but I wanted to hear the Classe sound unaltered
and the Violet Z1 did the job very well.
Does that help?
Cheers,
John
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I understand in addition to the great resolution, they are more forward...can they ever be bright or perhaps highlight any edginess in the system?
Can't answer that one with respects to your dreadnaught; but in my experience with the CAM350s there was not even a hint of brightness(I let them burn in for a week before a serious evaluation and thereafter I keep them on 24/7). What I did get was lighting fast dynamics and a soundstage that was very expansive, while still keeping the characteristics of the Classe sound that I fell in love with(btw I sold off Wolcott 220 mono blocks - no slouches by any means - to go the the 350s, and I did not want a PC that was going to mess with what I liked so much).
So a conversation w/ BS(John) might be the best way to have your questions answered, in my case, the recommendation was for the "less expensive"(as I was ready to pay up for a Silver Ref) cable because it was the best for my system, btw...it was nice to realize not everyone in the audio business is on the "up-sell mode". I have no doubt your experience w/ BS will be similar.
And that's no BS!! ;)
Regards,
bill
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Thanks for the thoughtful answer!