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Group Therapy => NY Audio Rave => Topic started by: Barry (NJ) on August 08, 2019, 11:51:54 AM

Title: My Media Room...
Post by: Barry (NJ) on August 08, 2019, 11:51:54 AM
A bunch of you have visited my place, well, when we first moved in I just set up my stereo equipment in the finished part of the basement. I was never a fan of the decor, but I felt the room worked okay. Well this summer was time to redo my room. My room/system is a 2-Channel and Surround Sound set-up, but the 2-Channel is pure, the Front L+R of the surround system runs through the 2-Channel pre-amp, and the 2-Channel sources don't interact with the surround pre-pro.

Audio Sources are Sony CDP-xa20es, and a Linn LP12 that feeds an Audio Alchemy VITB.
Those feed an Audio Alchemy DLC with the PS Three power supply upgrade.
The DLC feeds an Audio Alchemy Overture OM-150 with the PS 150-M Upgrade.
And that feeds Anthony Gallo Reference 3.5 speakers.

Video sources are Oppo BDP-83 and a Roku Streaming Stick +.
Those feed an Emotiva UMC-200.
The front out of the UMC-200 feed the DLC, the side and rear surround outs each feed an Audio Alchemy Overture OM-150.
For side surrounds I currently have some Optimus Pro 7 speakers with upgraded caps on the tweeters.
Rear surrounds are Anthony Gallo Strada Signatures.
The Sub-woofer out of the UMC-200 feeds a Dayton Audio SA-1000, which I have feeding the second VC in the Gallo Reference woofers.

Video is projected onto a 110" gray canvas screen by a BenQ HT2050A.

Power for everything but the PJ goes through a Belkin PureAV PF60, connected to a dedicated 20amp circuit.

Ideally I'd like to find some surround speakers somewhere between the Optimus and Gallo in quality and cost  I've been keeping an eye on eBay etc. hoping for a bargain. Also thinking about building some passive subs and not powering the second VC on the Gallo Ref 3.5s during movies.

I'd like to add Atmos capabilities as well. Most likely, for Atmos decoding, I'd end up with a receiver, as I feel stand-alone Atmos processors are more expensive than I'm comfortable spending on something like that. So I wouldn't need the additional Audio Alchemy amps I'm currently using for the surrounds, just have to make sure that the receiver has line-level main L+R outputs to feed the DLC. This keeps the pure 2-channel system as is, and takes main L+R amplifier duties away from the receiver, leaving more power available for all the ambiance channels.

And since I know how important pix are to some of you...

As you may remember it...

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Rave2 (https://flic.kr/p/2dE7Hfa) by Barry (https://www.flickr.com/photos/20967309@N06/), on Flickr


Here are some pix of the work as it was in progress...

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2019-03-05_01-02-13 (https://flic.kr/p/2dE8uM2) by Barry (https://www.flickr.com/photos/20967309@N06/), on Flickr

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IMG_20190313_085641 (https://flic.kr/p/2garDLg) by Barry (https://www.flickr.com/photos/20967309@N06/), on Flickr

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48020976272_8537568e21_o.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2gas4dL)
IMG_20190401_205627 (https://flic.kr/p/2gas4dL) by Barry (https://www.flickr.com/photos/20967309@N06/), on Flickr


I'd already skimmed and painted this wall, but decided some fresh sheetrock was needed...

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Backwall (https://flic.kr/p/2fDz7BL) by Barry (https://www.flickr.com/photos/20967309@N06/), on Flickr

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/46819246065_96de42dceb_o.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2ekfSGr)
Ceiling_open (https://flic.kr/p/2ekfSGr) by Barry (https://www.flickr.com/photos/20967309@N06/), on Flickr

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48020896303_1be4873cb9_o.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2garDrZ)
IMG_20190505_131056 (https://flic.kr/p/2garDrZ) by Barry (https://www.flickr.com/photos/20967309@N06/), on Flickr

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48020974367_5ff5c9cdce_o.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2gas3DV)
IMG_20190513_152604 (https://flic.kr/p/2gas3DV) by Barry (https://www.flickr.com/photos/20967309@N06/), on Flickr


Got some help on Father's Day...

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MVIMG_20190616_212121 (https://flic.kr/p/2gfpkro) by Barry (https://www.flickr.com/photos/20967309@N06/), on Flickr

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48076961453_27e1f5bb8a_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2gfoZEv)
IMG_20190616_224511 (https://flic.kr/p/2gfoZEv) by Barry (https://www.flickr.com/photos/20967309@N06/), on Flickr

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48020891558_ba5ce95ac8_o.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2garC3b)
IMG_20190604_205851 (https://flic.kr/p/2garC3b) by Barry (https://www.flickr.com/photos/20967309@N06/), on Flickr


And pretty much done...

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2019-07-29_12-07-18 (https://flic.kr/p/2gKs9NP) by Barry (https://www.flickr.com/photos/20967309@N06/), on Flickr

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2019-07-29_12-07-32 (https://flic.kr/p/2gKsVJ1) by Barry (https://www.flickr.com/photos/20967309@N06/), on Flickr

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2019-07-23_09-28-26 (https://flic.kr/p/2gF5ERU) by Barry (https://www.flickr.com/photos/20967309@N06/), on Flickr

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48285474571_65c80c44db_o.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2gyPFmg)
2019-07-14_07-57-53 (https://flic.kr/p/2gyPFmg) by Barry (https://www.flickr.com/photos/20967309@N06/), on Flickr
Title: Re: My Media Room...
Post by: Folsom on August 08, 2019, 12:26:58 PM
Nice redo. I've always liked the Gallos.
Title: Re: My Media Room...
Post by: Barry (NJ) on August 08, 2019, 02:08:15 PM
Nice redo. I've always liked the Gallos.

Thank you!
Title: Re: My Media Room...
Post by: mfsoa on August 08, 2019, 04:56:32 PM
The Barry Screen LIVES!!

Looks great!
Title: Re: My Media Room...
Post by: Barry (NJ) on August 08, 2019, 05:54:20 PM
The Barry Screen LIVES!!

Looks great!
Thanks Mike!
Title: Re: My Media Room...
Post by: Guy 13 on August 08, 2019, 09:32:09 PM
Wow ! Nice Media Room you've got there Barry.

Guy 13
Title: Re: My Media Room...
Post by: Barry (NJ) on August 09, 2019, 08:25:27 AM
Thanks Guy!
Title: Re: My Media Room...
Post by: goldlizsts on August 12, 2019, 06:08:41 PM
Wow, Barry, you're still on top of the game! :rofl: :thumb: :yay2:
Title: Re: My Media Room...
Post by: Barry (NJ) on August 12, 2019, 06:30:28 PM
Thanks Shek!
Title: Re: My Media Room...
Post by: malloy on August 12, 2019, 09:50:30 PM
Barry,

That's a fantastic CD rack. Is it a DIY/custom job?

Paul
Title: Re: My Media Room...
Post by: Barry (NJ) on August 13, 2019, 07:49:16 AM
Barry,

That's a fantastic CD rack. Is it a DIY/custom job?

Paul

Thanks Paul!

All the shelving is custom DIY. I used 1" furniture grade plywood with a Birch veneer for the shelving. The Equipment rack uses 3/4" threaded-rod, and the others use 5/8". The CD rack is 4' wide, 7" deep, and about 6'6" tall. The equipment rack is 4' wide, 20" deep and about 34" tall. I put the equipment rack on some TPR wheels (https://www.amazon.com/Homend-Swivel-Locking-Casters-Silver/dp/B07L6GWJQL/), so I can keep it close to the back wall, but move it when needed. In the past it was about a foot from the wall to enable some access to the rear of the components. The wheels make things so much easier.
Title: Re: My Media Room...
Post by: BobM on August 13, 2019, 09:23:30 AM
It's about time you got your head out from under that car hood and worked on something important. 

 :beer:
Title: Re: My Media Room...
Post by: Bob in St. Louis on August 13, 2019, 08:06:33 PM
It's about time you got your head out from under that car hood and worked on something important. 

 :beer:
:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

Great looking room!!!!  :thumb:
Title: Re: My Media Room...
Post by: Barry (NJ) on August 14, 2019, 07:40:56 AM
It's about time you got your head out from under that car hood and worked on something important. 

 :beer:
:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

Great looking room!!!!  :thumb:

Thanks Bobs!  :rofl:

And BobM, a bunch has happened there too...

(https://live.staticflickr.com/938/42898754724_1b209e362d_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/28mPkd9)
aftermath (https://flic.kr/p/28mPkd9) by Barry (https://www.flickr.com/photos/20967309@N06/), on Flickr

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IMG_20180728_195115 (https://flic.kr/p/29zh1Qb) by Barry (https://www.flickr.com/photos/20967309@N06/), on Flickr

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39594275_2225927680755065_7924611533278019584_n (https://flic.kr/p/29bLnkd) by Barry (https://www.flickr.com/photos/20967309@N06/), on Flickr

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Progress, it's in! (https://flic.kr/p/29xauaR) by Barry (https://www.flickr.com/photos/20967309@N06/), on Flickr

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2019-05-06_01-25-09 (https://flic.kr/p/S3wmKH) by Barry (https://www.flickr.com/photos/20967309@N06/), on Flickr

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IMG_20181012_120204_Crop (https://flic.kr/p/25948Fz) by Barry (https://www.flickr.com/photos/20967309@N06/), on Flickr

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IMG_20190417_134851 (https://flic.kr/p/2ebawD4) by Barry (https://www.flickr.com/photos/20967309@N06/), on Flickr



Title: Re: My Media Room...
Post by: Bob in St. Louis on August 14, 2019, 07:51:23 AM
Nice!
"One of these days"... I'm going to get myself a four wheeled project.
I'm thinking a Pontiac. Maybe a '66.
Title: Re: My Media Room...
Post by: Barry (NJ) on August 18, 2019, 06:08:36 AM
Found some Sapphire SAT-1000 surrounds on ebay that I think will work well. From what I was able to read on them, prior to pulling the trigger, they have a smoother more forgiving sound, and listening to white noise bears this out. The Optimus speakers had a much higher pitch than my mains during level matching with white noise, and these seem a better match. For about $90 delivered for the four, I'm happy. Maybe one day, I'll be able to get a good deal on a second set of Gallo Strada (overkill for surrounds?), or maybe a set of the A'Diva, but these will do for now...

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48566046952_4fd36bb503_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2gZBFK7)
New Surrounds (https://flic.kr/p/2gZBFK7) by Barry (https://www.flickr.com/photos/20967309@N06/), on Flickr
Title: Re: My Media Room...
Post by: Barry (NJ) on August 22, 2019, 02:23:42 PM
So when I updated the room I ran a dedicated 20 amp circuit, with a continuous/unbroken run of 10 gauge, for my equipment rack. My projector however, being at the other end of the room, was plugged into an outlet on existing circuit. I noticed some hum was being introduced into the system when watching movies, that wasn't there when just listening to music. So last night I ran a line from that new outlet to the outlet for the projector and removed line for the other circuit. Now that everything is on a single circuit, hum is gone!

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IMG_20190607_143217 (https://flic.kr/p/2garvu4) by Barry (https://www.flickr.com/photos/20967309@N06/), on Flickr

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IMG_20190604_205851 (https://flic.kr/p/2garC3b) by Barry (https://www.flickr.com/photos/20967309@N06/), on Flickr

Title: Re: My Media Room...
Post by: Guy 13 on August 22, 2019, 03:27:33 PM
Hi Barry.
Grrrrr.... That annoying 60 Hz '' hummmmm ''
glad you could get rid of it.
What else to do to complete your super Media Room ?

Guy 13
Title: Re: My Media Room...
Post by: Bob in St. Louis on August 22, 2019, 05:01:38 PM
White screws on a black plate..... Dude, you're killing me.  :shock:
Title: Re: My Media Room...
Post by: Barry (NJ) on August 22, 2019, 05:15:06 PM
White screws on a black plate..... Dude, you're killing me.  :shock:
Those were replaced :wink:
Title: Re: My Media Room...
Post by: Bob in St. Louis on August 22, 2019, 05:17:51 PM
Oh.... Good. Jeez, now I'll be able to sleep tonight!  :rofl:
Title: Re: My Media Room...
Post by: Barry (NJ) on August 22, 2019, 05:19:09 PM
Hi Barry.
Grrrrr.... That annoying 60 Hz '' hummmmm ''
glad you could get rid of it.
What else to do to complete your super Media Room ?

Guy 13

Need to tidy up the shelves some. Still have some junk on them that needs to get sorted, and books in boxes that need to be put out.
Title: Re: My Media Room...
Post by: Guy 13 on August 23, 2019, 01:21:16 AM
Hi Barry.
Grrrrr.... That annoying 60 Hz '' hummmmm ''
glad you could get rid of it.
What else to do to complete your super Media Room ?

Guy 13

Need to tidy up the shelves some. Still have some junk on them that needs to get sorted, and books in boxes that need to be put out.


Hi Barry.
I am packing up and cleaning up all our stuff accumulated in the past 23 years
prior to our big move to Canada.
What I find the most difficult is to choose in the zillions items :
What I will keep,
what I will give,
what I will recycle and
what I will trash.
For me packing is fun, but choosing makes me dizzy.
I hope you don't have the same problem.

Guy 13
Title: Re: My Media Room...
Post by: Barry (NJ) on August 23, 2019, 06:32:33 AM
For me packing is fun, but choosing makes me dizzy.
I hope you don't have the same problem.

Guy 13

Yes, my dilemmas are the same :wink:
Title: Re: My Media Room...
Post by: rollo on August 23, 2019, 01:07:14 PM
 Barry you are one talented Man. Car looks awesome and Media Room is Rave ready just saying.  A Music Video Rave I'm in.


charles
Title: Re: My Media Room...
Post by: Barry (NJ) on August 23, 2019, 02:44:34 PM
Barry you are one talented Man. Car looks awesome and Media Room is Rave ready just saying.  A Music Video Rave I'm in.

charles

Well Charles, we can do music video, or just CD, or even Vinyl :wink:
The Surround goes through the 2-Channel system, rather then the other way around.
Title: Re: My Media Room...
Post by: goldlizsts on August 30, 2019, 05:30:33 PM
WOW, Barry, I was at your place once, loooong ago, don't quite remember how big it is.  Now, you MUST have ballooned it into such fantastic quarters.  Congrats! :drool:
Title: Re: My Media Room...
Post by: Barry (NJ) on August 31, 2019, 10:03:23 AM
Thanks Shek, same room as before, but it feels a little bigger as there's less junk in it now ;)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48607552291_a7c8f53406_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2h4hpQp)
Media_Room_201908 (https://flic.kr/p/2h4hpQp) by Barry (https://www.flickr.com/photos/20967309@N06/), on Flickr
Title: Re: My Media Room...
Post by: goldlizsts on November 01, 2019, 07:40:21 AM
Wow, I haven't been to this site for like couple of months, and I really can say I didn't miss a beat?  The Hi-Fi business reallllly has slowed down.  I got several notices of the show in D.C. over the last couple of months, that was about it.

Anyone planning a gettogether, for "Holiday"'s sake? 

Shek
Title: Re: My Media Room...
Post by: Folsom on November 01, 2019, 05:48:31 PM
I don't think it's dying. But it is changing so that a lot of things we're familiar with are not the same. But I would say that in general the biggest thing that's making it problematic is young people don't have enough money to buy better stuff. So you have expensive and cheaper stuff being the majority, in between isn't that popular.

Also styles of living are changing, too. It's not a surprise that a lot of people don't want giant speakers or entire rooms arranged for the stereo. But the real question to me is why isn't the sound compelling enough to make people go for that sacrifice? That brings up a lot of questions.

I think Barry is smart to double his room as a home theater, so everyone can enjoy it.
Title: Re: My Media Room...
Post by: tmazz on November 05, 2019, 07:06:21 PM
It's not a surprise that a lot of people don't want giant speakers or entire rooms arranged for the stereo. But the real question to me is why isn't the sound compelling enough to make people go for that sacrifice? That brings up a lot of questions.

I don't think the the compellingness of the sound is an issue here. I think that it real issue, and the biggest challenge that faces the industry in the future is that we are looking a a whole generation that for the most part does not value music period. They walk around with earbuds stuck in their heads for 12 hours a day, but to them the music is nothing more than background noise while they are busy dong other things. How often to you ever see (or hear of) a young person sitting down and listening to music a s a single stand alone activity? When I was a teenager it was not uncommon for a group of teenagers to get together at somebodies house and actually sit down as a group and listen to a newly released album from one of our favorite artists. While doing nothing else!!!!!! Nowadays you would be lucky to see a young person listening to music when only doing one other thing. (and of course under the concept of never say never, I know this does not apply to 100% of all young people, but is is the vast majority.) And to be fair this does not apply only to music. in today's world young people multitask with everything. When's the last time you saw a group of college age people in a restaurant that weren't eating talking and texting all at the same time?

And so if people are not willing to dedicate the time to sit down and purposely listen to music in the first place, how can we expect them want to dedicate space in their homes to an activity they don't participate in.

IMO the problem that the industry needs to tackle is how do you get more people interested in listening to music, period. Because if people do not consider sitting still and listening to music to be a valuable experience you have nowhere to go. Because you will never be able to upsell a person on better sound if they really don't care about listening in the first place.
Title: My Media Room...
Post by: Guy 13 on November 05, 2019, 08:26:30 PM
Hi tmazz and others.
Yes, yes, yes...
What you write is the reality today.
Everywhere I go,
I see young boys and girls with ear buds that are texting on their phone at the same time.
When I was a kid, my friends and I would listen to the latest artist on 45 not 33T.
Our neighbour gave us some 45 that he got from a jukebox where he worked as a bartender.
Then when I was 16 (Yes, that's a long time ago)
my father bought an RCA Victor stereo furniture
and my mother bought some 33T from Selection of Reader's Digest of classical music.
Thanks to my parents, that's where my love for music come from.

Guy 13
Title: Re: My Media Room...
Post by: Nick B on November 06, 2019, 08:59:05 AM
Hi tmazz and others.
Yes, yes, yes...
What you write is the reality today.
Everywhere I go,
I see young boys and girls with ear buds that are texting on their phone at the same time.
When I was a kid, my friends and I would listen to the latest artist on 45 not 33T.
Our neighbour gave us some 45 that he got from a jukebox where he worked as a bartender.
Then when I was 16 (Yes, that's a long time ago)
my father bought an RCA Victor stereo furniture
and my mother bought some 33T from Selection of Reader's Digest of classical music.
Thanks to my parents, that's where my love for music come from.

Guy 13

My parents had a one piece console that contained the receiver, speakers and turntable and that’s when my interest in music started. I was 10 or 11. Very good memories 🎶🎶
Title: Re: My Media Room...
Post by: Folsom on November 07, 2019, 07:32:42 AM
IME young people go to more live shows than ever before. Not teenagers, but college age. They just don't have the $, space, or desire to build a stereo a lot of the time. They buy a good bit of vinyl though.
Title: Re: My Media Room...
Post by: Barry (NJ) on November 07, 2019, 08:24:06 AM
I believe younger people listen to more music than we ever did, but yes, they also do it more casually. There is so much more to distract them than there was when we were their age. Also, if we wanted to listen to music, we pretty much had to sit down and do just that. The alternative was either a little "Transistor Radio" or later, a "Boom Box". Now portable private options are just ubiquitous, and even run of the mill sound, is superior to some decent stuff from back in the day. Even back in the day audiophiles were not every-man, and much of what got people into it back then was the novelty of having audio reproduction in the home, and some of those people strove for more/better, but most were still just as happy with whatever they got at Korvettes or Two Guys...
Title: Re: My Media Room...
Post by: goldlizsts on November 10, 2019, 04:50:30 AM
IME young people go to more live shows than ever before. Not teenagers, but college age. They just don't have the $, space, or desire to build a stereo a lot of the time. They buy a good bit of vinyl though.

Noted.  The young people, the new millennials, have different priorities.  That's my take.  From my perspective, I'm just NOT as driven in terms of Audio/Hi-Fi enjoyment. It's good that someone like you still have that 110% drive.  :X
Title: Re: My Media Room...
Post by: tmazz on November 10, 2019, 10:28:47 AM
I believe younger people listen to more music than we ever did, but yes, they also do it more casually. There is so much more to distract them than there was when we were their age. Also, if we wanted to listen to music, we pretty much had to sit down and do just that. The alternative was either a little "Transistor Radio" or later, a "Boom Box". Now portable private options are just ubiquitous, and even run of the mill sound, is superior to some decent stuff from back in the day. Even back in the day audiophiles were not every-man, and much of what got people into it back then was the novelty of having audio reproduction in the home, and some of those people strove for more/better, but most were still just as happy with whatever they got at Korvettes or Two Guys...

I guess the point I was trying to make was that young people today may spend much more time playing than we did in out youth, but at the same time spend much less time actually listening to it because they are usually doing three other things.

And I am not saying this as a dig against young people. It is just the reality of how they operate and when one looks at the decline of large scale home stereo systems as we know them I think you need to take into account  the shifts in how music is viewed (and consumed) by the younger generation  and the fact that a home stereo system, no matter how good it sound, just may not meet the needs of younger folks in that the benefits it provides may be ones that they do not want or even care about.
Title: Re: My Media Room...
Post by: tmazz on November 10, 2019, 11:24:17 AM
IME young people go to more live shows than ever before. Not teenagers, but college age. They just don't have the $, space, or desire to build a stereo a lot of the time. They buy a good bit of vinyl though.

It is yet to be seen how long this uptick in vinyl sales will last among young people. I am still not convinced it is anything but a fad. For a good portion of them vinyl purchases are driven not by a desire for better sound, but for the "Cool " factor of records. One would hope that regardless of why they started buying records, they will eventually see the value of an LP and continue to purchase them over time.  But the cool factor is driven by a fad and like fashion, fads are very fickle and what is cool today can all of a sudden be passe tomorrow.  For the sake of the industry, I hope this does not happen, but I am nervous that it will.

An BTW, my pet peeve with young people and records is when they call them "vinyls". Vinyl is a compound that is used to make records. It cannot be made plural.  :evil:

The kids in my scout troop often ask me "How many vinyls do you have?"  My response to them is always the same, "I have a large collection of records, but I do not own any vinyls."   [-(

Rant over.
Title: Re: My Media Room...
Post by: Folsom on November 12, 2019, 06:59:08 PM
It might feel sorta "fad" like but I think it's more culture. Plus I think even with the cheaper stereos they can tell it's more pleasant to listen to than bad DACs ever will be.
Title: Re: My Media Room...
Post by: Barry (NJ) on November 13, 2019, 09:39:37 AM
I believe younger people listen to more music than we ever did, but yes, they also do it more casually. There is so much more to distract them than there was when we were their age. Also, if we wanted to listen to music, we pretty much had to sit down and do just that. The alternative was either a little "Transistor Radio" or later, a "Boom Box". Now portable private options are just ubiquitous, and even run of the mill sound, is superior to some decent stuff from back in the day. Even back in the day audiophiles were not every-man, and much of what got people into it back then was the novelty of having audio reproduction in the home, and some of those people strove for more/better, but most were still just as happy with whatever they got at Korvettes or Two Guys...

I guess the point I was trying to make was that young people today may spend much more time playing than we did in out youth, but at the same time spend much less time actually listening to it because they are usually doing three other things.

And I am not saying this as a dig against young people. It is just the reality of how they operate and when one looks at the decline of large scale home stereo systems as we know them I think you need to take into account  the shifts in how music is viewed (and consumed) by the younger generation  and the fact that a home stereo system, no matter how good it sound, just may not meet the needs of younger folks in that the benefits it provides may be ones that they do not want or even care about.

And I was just saying that kids today have far more distractions available than we did, and the basic music reproduction available to them is far superior to what we had back then. For my friends and I in high-school, going to my house to crank a Pink Floyd album on my stereo while my parents were at work was a major activity. But game consoles weren't ubiquitous, nor were 60" flat panel TV's with high resolution video, never mind smart-phones and the internet. I think we're into it, because it is a part of our history, and mainly because that was a major part of what was available for entertainment during those formative years. Even then, the number of us that got deep was still a minority.
Title: Re: My Media Room...
Post by: tmazz on November 13, 2019, 04:29:15 PM
Barry it looks like we are both heading to the same place although via two slightly different routes. Kids today , for whatever reaseon you wan't to atribute ut to, don't value music as a [primary activity. This turns into a major problem for the high end industry in that people who don't value listening to music are not likely to expend the time , money and energy that we do to enhance that listening experience.
Title: Re: My Media Room...
Post by: Barry (NJ) on November 14, 2019, 07:58:05 AM
Agreed, when I put my younger friends, and the friends of my kids into the sweet spot, they get it, but I doubt enough to put them on the path. But maybe when they're older and have the means to purchase, and a place to put it, they'll seek it out. My son says he will one day, and I suppose much of my passion for music reproduction, was passed down from my father...
Title: Re: My Media Room...
Post by: goldlizsts on November 22, 2019, 01:38:41 AM
Agreed, when I put my younger friends, and the friends of my kids into the sweet spot, they get it, but I doubt enough to put them on the path. But maybe when they're older and have the means to purchase, and a place to put it, they'll seek it out. My son says he will one day, and I suppose much of my passion for music reproduction, was passed down from my father...


Barry, your son will follow you in the audio path?  Congrats!  The millennials these days are on a different cloud!  They'd be happy with their iTunes, with ears plugged!  aa :thumb:
Title: Re: My Media Room...
Post by: Barry (NJ) on November 22, 2019, 07:28:57 AM
Barry, your son will follow you in the audio path?  Congrats!  The millennials these days are on a different cloud!  They'd be happy with their iTunes, with ears plugged!  aa :thumb:

We'll see what he does as time goes on ;)

And as far as the millennials go, as I said above, the cheap basic stuff today, is so much better than what we had  available in our youth, it often really is good enough...
Title: Re: My Media Room...
Post by: Brap on November 22, 2019, 08:52:34 AM
I struggle with this constantly.  Have 2 kids, 31 and 29.  While they appreciate my gear and I purposely have almost 2 of everything to hand down, minus TT, I do have my Dad's 1955 gear.  Mahogany Jensen Imperial PR-100, Heathkit W5M and PA2, Eico FM tuner and mono Garrard RC88 MkII TT. this is in the 2nd floor hallway and listen to public radio and Christmas music around this time of year.  Fills the entire 1st and 2nd floor.  This is a big unit and love to pass it down but will the kids ever enjoy or if it needs any work (I restored the amp and pre) would they do it?  I could probably get some decent scratch for this stuff. Decisions, decisions...…..