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Systemic Development => Digital Audio Devices => Topic started by: rollo on September 14, 2020, 01:30:39 PM

Title: QoBuz vs Tidal
Post by: rollo on September 14, 2020, 01:30:39 PM
  OK gents lots of debate as which has better tonality and harmonics. I have both. QoBuz Studio and Tidal Master. To date Qobuz sounded better. Whats your experience ?

charles
Title: Re: QoBuz vs Tidal
Post by: P.I. on September 14, 2020, 06:41:05 PM
  OK gents lots of debate as which has better tonality and harmonics. I have both. QoBuz Studio and Tidal Master. To date Qobuz sounded better. Whats your experience ?

charles
For me:  Tidal.  Also it is much less clunky with a Mac.  They both fall short of CD.

44.1 NOS rocks! That is my story and I'm listening to it!!!  😎
Title: Re: QoBuz vs Tidal
Post by: Jack on September 14, 2020, 07:46:45 PM
Qobuz, none up the upper mid-range stridency I hear from Tidal.  That has been a consistent assessment with multiple combinations of streamers, electronics, speakers and cables.  Tidal is only for when something small independent label is not on Qobuz but that is getting to be a less frequent occurance so maybe time to cancel Tidal.
Title: Re: QoBuz vs Tidal
Post by: tmazz on September 14, 2020, 08:29:26 PM
  OK gents lots of debate as which has better tonality and harmonics. I have both. QoBuz Studio and Tidal Master. To date Qobuz sounded better. Whats your experience ?

charles

That has been my experience as well.
Title: Re: QoBuz vs Tidal
Post by: Nick B on September 14, 2020, 09:45:57 PM
I did listening tests some months back, but couldn’t really notice a difference. With new cabling and nos preamp tubes, the system is much more resolving, so I’ll give it a go again. As my listening tastes are quite eccentric, I’m just happy when Tidal or Qobuz has the material....

As Dave also just said, 44.1 nos is just fine with me!
Title: Re: QoBuz vs Tidal
Post by: James Edward on September 15, 2020, 04:58:41 AM
Now I will have to put Qobuz on trial. I wonder if any impressions also have to do with system synergy; I really like the sound of Tidal, but I also realize my system skews toward the warmer side of reality. This may account for me not hearing the stridency that others have expressed regarding Tidal. I’m fairly new to streaming and am still just amazed at what 20 bucks a month gets me.
Please also see my question in a different forum heading regarding streaming from my phone. NOT an audio quality question... Thanks.
Title: Re: QoBuz vs Tidal
Post by: rollo on September 15, 2020, 08:46:28 AM
Qobuz, none up the upper mid-range stridency I hear from Tidal.  That has been a consistent assessment with multiple combinations of streamers, electronics, speakers and cables.  Tidal is only for when something small independent label is not on Qobuz but that is getting to be a less frequent occurance so maybe time to cancel Tidal.

   Jack agree 100%. I have both as well. Yes time to cancel Tidal. Not an MQA fan either. 44.1 fan and Hi-Rez only recorded in Hi Rez not upsampled.


charles
Title: Re: QoBuz vs Tidal
Post by: Bill O'Connell on September 15, 2020, 09:29:14 AM
Qobuz sounds best in my system. Running Euphony Stylus instead of Roon was a huge difference also.
Title: Re: QoBuz vs Tidal
Post by: Nick B on September 15, 2020, 10:47:41 AM
Qobuz sounds best in my system. Running Euphony Stylus instead of Roon was a huge difference also.

Had not heard of Euphony. Very interesting reading as to the functionality and capability of the Euphony Summus server.
Title: Re: QoBuz vs Tidal
Post by: tmazz on September 15, 2020, 10:40:59 PM
I can nit pick and come up with differences in the SQ of Tidal and Qobuz (and if I do Qobuz does come out on top... in my system), but the reality of it all is that both provide very credible sound and either one is certainly good enough to allow you to sit down and enjoy the music.

But for me streaming is not about replacing my other sources of music , but rather expand on them. I use streaming service not as a primary source, but as a way to preview things I might purchase or give me instant access to something that I do not currently have in my library that I want to listen to at that particular moment.

So for me there are two things that are much more important than sound quality when looking at the two service. First, how well does their service integrate with the hardware and software you use for streaming in your system. For a streaming service to be useful it must work easily and seamlessly with your system, otherwise it will end up frustrating you and over time you will just stop using it.  One example that comes to mind is that Amazon Music does not work with Roon and according to Roon in spite of their trying to make that happen, Amazon simply has no desire to make their service Roon compatible. In my case this this makes Amazon Music a non-starter for me. Secondly, and I think most importantly is the fact that these service have different selection criteria when it comes to deciding what music they should carry. You need to take a look at what each of then keeps in their collections and pick the one that most closely matches your music preference so you can get the most out of a subscription. Because let's face it, a music service that carry the kinds of music you like to listen to will not do you much good.

So in my mind the sound quality of both systems is good enough that it should take a back seat in the decision making process and you should choose the service that most easily makes it possible to find and play the music that you want to hear. because in the end, these services are not streaming you sound quality, they are streaming you music and therefore you should let the music guide you to which one is best for your system and musical tastes.
Title: Re: QoBuz vs Tidal
Post by: rollo on September 17, 2020, 08:20:27 AM
Question. I have Tidal logo on my laptop and can play it. I have the logo on my iPad however will not play. Says go to squeezebox.com to adjust. Still cannot get Tidal to play with iPad. Anyone have a clue as what to do ? I hate computers.

charles
Title: Re: QoBuz vs Tidal
Post by: orchardaudio on September 28, 2020, 04:22:30 PM
My vote for Qobuz...
Title: Re: QoBuz vs Tidal
Post by: orchardaudio on September 29, 2020, 04:49:39 AM
For anybody who want to try here are my demo playlists for both platforms:

https://tidal.com/browse/playlist/620f8350-67a5-4f89-9a48-bef0617fe320

https://open.qobuz.com/playlist/3288137