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Re: Surface Noise Origins
« Reply #15 on: February 20, 2020, 12:08:38 PM »
I am trying one more thing, as the suggestions make sense.

https://www.homedepot.com/p/4-in-Flat-Chip-Brush-1500-4/202023923
It should get into the grooves, and the bristles are on the soft side. Worth a shot...

I've cleaned lots of records using cheap chip brushes and a vacuum.  I like to cut the brush back to about an inch of bristles to make them stiffer.  Then use de-mineralized water and a enough soap to so that you get a good foam as you brush back and forth.  Wipe the foam off, rinse, and brush with only distilled.  At that point I used to vacuum dry them, but I guess you could drip dry.  That should work rather well for nearly no investment. 
And use separate brushes for soap and for rinse. 
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Re: Surface Noise Origins
« Reply #16 on: February 20, 2020, 06:08:13 PM »
I thought you liked boar hair brushes?

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Re: Surface Noise Origins
« Reply #17 on: February 20, 2020, 08:13:09 PM »
The ones I use are boar hair.  On sale these are about 50 cents a piece. 
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Re: Surface Noise Origins
« Reply #18 on: February 22, 2020, 03:33:36 PM »
YMMV seems to apply here.   I've taken several lp's that I cleaned with a brush, cleaning solution and vacuumed and quickly compared to the same lp further cleaned with an ultrasonic cleaner... to find a significant further removal of noisy pops.  My experience is that even a diligent hand cleaning can only get you part way to a clean surface. 
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Re: Surface Noise Origins
« Reply #19 on: February 22, 2020, 05:35:59 PM »
Well, send me a copy, I'll clean it and send it back to you.  Of course, I'll have to play it a few times for quality control.
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Re: Surface Noise Origins
« Reply #20 on: February 22, 2020, 07:28:57 PM »
I also find that treating a record with a steam cleaner can go even further in getting out some stubborn noise.

But of course every once in a while you come across something that is just a poor pressing that no amount of cleaning can quiet down.  :(
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Re: Surface Noise Origins
« Reply #21 on: February 22, 2020, 10:41:45 PM »
Back when I was a vinyl junkie (before I figured out how to make digital my preferred method of playback)I used the Elmer’s glue method to great success on the noisiest pressings.  Just need to make sure the material of the pressing will release the glue.  Old regrind pressings can be iffy.  Virgin vinyl - not a problem.

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Re: Surface Noise Origins
« Reply #22 on: February 27, 2020, 01:30:41 PM »
  Mazz I still have my steamer. I believe Mapleshade sells/sold a kit. That got me interested in buying one. Very affective however my Kirmuss Ultrasonic Baby rules. Money well spent.
  Jim if you want to try the steamer C,mon over and you can have it for free.


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Re: Surface Noise Origins
« Reply #23 on: February 27, 2020, 03:29:51 PM »
  Mazz I still have my steamer. I believe Mapleshade sells/sold a kit. That got me interested in buying one. Very affective however my Kirmuss Ultrasonic Baby rules. Money well spent.
  Jim if you want to try the steamer C,mon over and you can have it for free.


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Charles, I remember seeing a few videos with the Kirmuss designer. Nice guy and quite the vinyl enthusiast. I very much like the idea of ultrasonic cleaning. I think it would be much better than my Nitty Gritty. I think that Kirmuss goes for $800. Not sure what’s on eBay nowadays as to kits.
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Re: Surface Noise Origins
« Reply #24 on: February 27, 2020, 04:36:55 PM »
I built my ultrasonic for about $150.  I already had a Nitty Gritty unit that had served me well for many years, but there's nothing that comes close to ultrasonic... followed by a vacuum drying. 
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Re: Surface Noise Origins
« Reply #25 on: February 27, 2020, 06:49:10 PM »
I built my ultrasonic for about $150.  I already had a Nitty Gritty unit that had served me well for many years, but there's nothing that comes close to ultrasonic... followed by a vacuum drying.

How do you vacuum them?

Here’s a link to an 8 minute video about the Kirmuss. A bit of a tedious process, but the results are likely excellent as Charles says.
https://youtu.be/G0Q8MNpmGoc
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Re: Surface Noise Origins
« Reply #26 on: March 05, 2020, 12:56:13 PM »
  Results are superb. However my quietest music is Digital.


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Re: Surface Noise Origins
« Reply #27 on: March 05, 2020, 01:11:40 PM »
I built my ultrasonic for about $150.  I already had a Nitty Gritty unit that had served me well for many years, but there's nothing that comes close to ultrasonic... followed by a vacuum drying.

How do you vacuum them?
Just take them from the ultrasonic bath directly to the Nitty Gritty for a vacuum dry.  No waiting around, no putting them in a rack, just put them in a new sleeve.  I don't change fluids until after 15-30 cleanings, so I don't like to leave the fluid on the record to air dry. 
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Re: Surface Noise Origins
« Reply #28 on: March 05, 2020, 04:48:10 PM »
I built my ultrasonic for about $150.  I already had a Nitty Gritty unit that had served me well for many years, but there's nothing that comes close to ultrasonic... followed by a vacuum drying.

How do you vacuum them?
Just take them from the ultrasonic bath directly to the Nitty Gritty for a vacuum dry.  No waiting around, no putting them in a rack, just put them in a new sleeve.  I don't change fluids until after 15-30 cleanings, so I don't like to leave the fluid on the record to air dry.

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Re: Surface Noise Origins
« Reply #29 on: March 06, 2020, 06:39:05 AM »
James Edward and I had a extensive Vinyl session last week at my place and the vinyl was almost as quiet as digital. But then again I am very selective of what I purchase. Not a  lot of used stuff, mostly newer pressings. I think a lot has to do with stylus shape and record pressing. As TMazz says some LP's are better than others.
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