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Re: DIY roller blocks??
« Reply #105 on: April 27, 2021, 10:55:22 PM »
Like old Grandma Rosannadanna said, "It's always something.........."



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Re: DIY roller blocks??
« Reply #106 on: April 28, 2021, 07:36:51 AM »

I will listen randomly for a day or two...no a/b comparisons for me with these. Then Iíll add Herbieís brass Cone/Spike Puckies to my B & W speaker stands.  I am expecting a nice improvement as I can feel the vibration on the speaker stands. Iím not one to add sand or lead shot... too tedious for me and simple = good. Will report further in a few days.

That's a mistake.  If sand filled there'd be no vibration, or significantly reduced.

Tedious boring video here, but check out the ring test at the 11:45 mark:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4QO_KF-2Isg&t=4s

You are concerning yourself with tweaks that will bring much less improvement than this one, IMHO.  And if you were consistently following your simple = good mantra, you'd just be plopping your gear down and not adding the spikes and Herbies stuff.

Just sayin'.......
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Re: DIY roller blocks??
« Reply #107 on: April 28, 2021, 10:09:38 AM »

I will listen randomly for a day or two...no a/b comparisons for me with these. Then Iíll add Herbieís brass Cone/Spike Puckies to my B & W speaker stands.  I am expecting a nice improvement as I can feel the vibration on the speaker stands. Iím not one to add sand or lead shot... too tedious for me and simple = good. Will report further in a few days.

That's a mistake.  If sand filled there'd be no vibration, or significantly reduced.

Tedious boring video here, but check out the ring test at the 11:45 mark:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4QO_KF-2Isg&t=4s

You are concerning yourself with tweaks that will bring much less improvement than this one, IMHO.  And if you were consistently following your simple = good mantra, you'd just be plopping your gear down and not adding the spikes and Herbies stuff.

Just sayin'.......

Well, I wonít dispute one word of your advice... Your evo pads sure worked.  The other tweaks have been quite easy to accomplish and the sand filling would certainly be a bit tedious. I did it once before years ago. Iíll give it some more thought, though.
Your youtube guy, the trippin gnome,  is quite interesting and Iíve watched a few more of his videos.
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Re: DIY roller blocks??
« Reply #108 on: April 28, 2021, 10:36:37 AM »
I have also filled stands with sand...several times.  So I agree it's a bit tedious if you feed it in slowly like on the video.  But use a big funnel with a big bottom hole and it's a breeze actually.   Just pour the sand in, takes a few minutes.

Even if SQ does not improve (it will) your columns become much more stable.      :thumb:
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Re: DIY roller blocks??
« Reply #109 on: April 28, 2021, 10:59:38 AM »
Don't have a big funnel to allow quick sand flow?  Just use an empty gallon jug (milk, bleach, etc) and cut off the bottom.


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Re: DIY roller blocks??
« Reply #110 on: April 28, 2021, 11:14:25 AM »
Like old Grandma Rosannadanna said, "It's always something.........."



Yes, indeed. Gilda was my favorite of that old cast  :thumb:
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Re: DIY roller blocks??
« Reply #111 on: April 28, 2021, 11:15:51 AM »
  The sand filling will give you a solid foundation the Fritz speakers like. We prefer a mixture of lead shot and play sand. A PIA however worth the effort. Then Blu-Tac them to top plate and be happy. As far as roller blocks, Herbies and footers in general one must know if draining, transferring, soaking up is the proper method for said piece of gear. Footers have different ways of working.
I would decouple stand from floor if a suspended wood if concrete spike it baby. If spikes are used we like decoulping speaker from stand ot Blu-Tac them. Need to try each way. Have fun as one effect may not be the same in another set up.

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Re: DIY roller blocks??
« Reply #112 on: April 28, 2021, 11:29:24 AM »
I have also filled stands with sand...several times.  So I agree it's a bit tedious if you feed it in slowly like on the video.  But use a big funnel with a big bottom hole and it's a breeze actually.   Just pour the sand in, takes a few minutes.

Even if SQ does not improve (it will) your columns become much more stable.      :thumb:

You are starting to persuade me....  :lol:
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Re: DIY roller blocks??
« Reply #113 on: April 28, 2021, 11:36:27 AM »
  The sand filling will give you a solid foundation the Fritz speakers like. We prefer a mixture of lead shot and play sand. A PIA however worth the effort. Then Blu-Tac them to top plate and be happy. As far as roller blocks, Herbies and footers in general one must know if draining, transferring, soaking up is the proper method for said piece of gear. Footers have different ways of working.
I would decouple stand from floor if a suspended wood if concrete spike it baby. If spikes are used we like decoulping speaker from stand ot Blu-Tac them. Need to try each way. Have fun as one effect may not be the same in another set up.

charles

Charles, Your recommendations to me in the past have been spot on. But thereís a point where itís just not worth it to me...like combining lead shot with sand. Iím already using Herbieís fat dots between the stand and the Fritzies. Iíve discussed some of this with Robert at Herbieís and heís been very helpful. Thereís a point for me where the experimentation takes the fun out of it. At least, thatís my thinking at this time in my life. As Iíve previously mentioned, Iím getting a level of tonality now that I didnít think would be possible.
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Re: DIY roller blocks??
« Reply #114 on: April 28, 2021, 11:53:11 AM »
IMO, don't worry about mixing shot in with sand! 

I seriously doubt you will hear any difference vs. straight sand, or that anyone can.   :roll: 

Make it easy and cheap on yourself.  Just get the stands solid, don't sweat the super anal superfluous stuff.     :thumb:
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Re: DIY roller blocks??
« Reply #115 on: April 28, 2021, 01:14:57 PM »
I have also filled stands with sand...several times.  So I agree it's a bit tedious if you feed it in slowly like on the video.  But use a big funnel with a big bottom hole and it's a breeze actually.   Just pour the sand in, takes a few minutes.

Even if SQ does not improve (it will) your columns become much more stable.      :thumb:


OK, Iím convinced. I realize your advice is for my own good  :lol:   
Iíll do it once those M6 spikes arrive.
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Re: DIY roller blocks??
« Reply #116 on: April 28, 2021, 03:42:00 PM »

Trying to do this??     :rofl:



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Re: DIY roller blocks??
« Reply #117 on: April 28, 2021, 03:44:03 PM »

Trying to do this??     :rofl:



Yes! I havenít figured out how to post a simple gif here  :roll:
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Re: DIY roller blocks??
« Reply #118 on: April 28, 2021, 03:57:46 PM »
(1)  put cursor on the image.  R click for menu.  Then L click on copy image address

(2)  once in AudioNervosa REPLY dialog box, look above and L click on insert image

(3)  now R click for menu, then L click on paste


done!    :thumb:

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Re: DIY roller blocks??
« Reply #119 on: April 28, 2021, 05:04:49 PM »

Trying to do this??     :rofl:



Yes! I havenít figured out how to post a simple gif here  :roll:

You mean like this? That is the same methodology I use when posting album covers in the ďwhat are you listening to nowĒ section. For whatever reason, I wasnít doing that with simple gifs. I was trying to do a copy and paste. Thanks for the simple lesson  :thumb:
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