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Trying to Put a Round peg in a Square Hole

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Nick B:
Doug,

It’s become a bit of a challenge and I’m learning a lot of interesting info. I know a couple of guys here have trouble and one member has given up on posting pics. I never have trouble posting pics on US Audiomart and Agon. Don’t recall if I ever tried posting pics over at AC.


--- Quote from: doug s. on August 11, 2021, 04:18:45 PM ---don't knock yourself out, nick. it's having to go to the web at all that's a pain, not the one extra step to open the pic on the web.  if you can't get pics to load from our computers, don't bother worrying about it.

doug s.

--- Quote from: Nick B on August 11, 2021, 01:02:38 AM ---Ok, well, that’s clear  :roll: :lol: Google photos can store different file formats. It probably then converts them to a jpg format when you rt click and go thru your routine. I wish there were an easier way and it’s something I’m still researching .

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steve:
I know it has been a "standard assumption" on the internet to choose a speaker first, been mulling it over, how would one know how the speaker actually sounds without the electronic components? May I suggest testing all the components together if in store but preferably in a home test. Usually there is a return time policy for either an online purchase or from a store.

That would allow one to spend some time with speaker placement for maximum fidelity and/or looking for flaws in either speaker or component(s).

There is a very general pattern of sonic issues with each.

The speaker tends to be specific, such as a bright, harsh, or lack of highs tweeter, flabby bass, thin bass. The room also tends to be in the same category, being specific. Most times the resonances are less than 1/3 octave width.

On the other hand, electronic component FR deviation, though small, is over many many octaves and influencing many harmonics, causing perceptioin issues such as lean throughout the entire frequency range, highs, mids, and lows, or the opposite, too full bass, the mids, the highs, etc. Of course there are deviant issues such as harshness, smearing etc as well from a component.

I think one would be surprised if one knew just how far off the electronic components are from accuracy/naturalness, how much the output sounds different from the input of a component.

I find it difficult to accept one purchases the speaker first without auditioning with the electronics one might be interested in. To me it is a package.

My .02.

steve

BobM:
The amp needs to match the speaker. That's an absolute. You wouldn't match a 500W SS amp with horns or a single cone speaker. Same for a 2 watt SET amp with panels. But other than that almost anything goes, especially with source components. Of course your room will almost always need treatments to sound its best.

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