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Systemic Development => Speakers => Topic started by: malloy on February 05, 2018, 08:23:57 PM

Title: cheap desktop setup
Post by: malloy on February 05, 2018, 08:23:57 PM
I know there was a topic from 2014 regarding this very question:  http://www.audionervosa.com/index.php?topic=5205.msg65911#msg65911  but I wanted to revive this.  I am hoping on keeping the price for speakers at or around $500 (preferable much lower if that is possible). :?:

A little background. I'm trying to create a new 2-channel desktop system so I can actually listen to some decent music. I used to have a very modest but tweaked 2ch stereo before I moved house. Now I only have a computer headphone system. No matter what I do, I just do not enjoy listening to music through headphones as much as through speakers. Until I get to move to a bigger place, I am toying with the idea of building a new modest system around a bookshelf or single driver speaker that would fit on my desktop. The computer will still serve as source.  I want to go the single driver route since it would allow for nearfield listening that would be impossible with larger or 2 or 3 way speakers.

I've read reviews for Kanto, Audioengine, Vanatoos. etc. My question is am I wasting my time with cheaper speakers such as these and are better off spending more? I've heard demos of some el-cheapo active pro gear/monitors. All sounded dreadful to my ears. I've also read reviews for the Mini Maggies.  That is something I might consider in the future. But for the price an active pair of monitors from KEF or Dynaudio would be within price range.

I also saw this: https://www.madisoundspeakerstore.com/2-way-speaker-kits/fostex-p1000e-diy-kanspea-4-full-range-speaker-kit-pair/

It is so cheap I am tempted to just go and buy and try. Anyone with experience with this Fostex 'kit'? How do these sound for a desktop system? 
Title: Re: cheap desktop setup
Post by: malloy on February 05, 2018, 08:51:04 PM
And then there is this:  https://www.madisoundspeakerstore.com/assembled-speakers/fostex-bk-40h-horn-pair/ (https://www.madisoundspeakerstore.com/assembled-speakers/fostex-bk-40h-horn-pair/)

$65 a pair!

But Mein Gott!!! THEY ARE, pardon my French, er German -- F*GLY :rofl:
Title: Re: cheap desktop setup
Post by: Nick B on February 05, 2018, 09:34:20 PM
And then there is this:  https://www.madisoundspeakerstore.com/assembled-speakers/fostex-bk-40h-horn-pair/ (https://www.madisoundspeakerstore.com/assembled-speakers/fostex-bk-40h-horn-pair/)

$65 a pair!

But Mein Gott!!! THEY ARE, pardon my French, er German -- F*GLY :rofl:

Smokin’ deal and they don’t look that ugly imho. So where did you study German or have you just seen too many German operas?
Nick
Title: Re: cheap desktop setup
Post by: malloy on February 05, 2018, 11:34:20 PM
Hi Nick,

Maybe ugly is too strong a word. Am  just not too wild about the grills. Maybe 'utilitarian' is a better word or maybe I've just been too conditioned to expecting veneers and real wood in speakers? But you are right, for that kind of money - can't complain.

(https://www.madisoundspeakerstore.com/bk40h-wide.png)
I seem to remember you were going down the single driver route, too? 

As for the German, I had a German officemate who always tried to teach us a word or two.

Paul
Title: Re: cheap desktop setup
Post by: BobM on February 06, 2018, 07:50:21 AM
I would strongly advise staying away from the powered speakers. Get yourself one of those tiny digital SMSL amps, or something similar, for about $60-80. Then pick up a HiFiMeDIY USB DAC for another $70. Add any non-powered used speaker that fits on your desktop and you will have far better sound than with any of the powered speakers.

Title: Re: cheap desktop setup
Post by: rollo on February 06, 2018, 08:42:52 AM
Check out Soundots Bluetooth speakers. Check out Omega speakers with a Peachtree integrated. Have fun.


charles
Title: Re: cheap desktop setup
Post by: HAL on February 06, 2018, 09:24:06 AM
Here are the full range LGK kit if you are interested in building some speakers.  He has some cabinets as well.

http://gr-research.com/lgk10kit.aspx
Title: Re: cheap desktop setup
Post by: Nick B on February 06, 2018, 03:14:16 PM
Hi Nick,

Maybe ugly is too strong a word. Am  just not too wild about the grills. Maybe 'utilitarian' is a better word or maybe I've just been too conditioned to expecting veneers and real wood in speakers? But you are right, for that kind of money - can't complain.

(https://www.madisoundspeakerstore.com/bk40h-wide.png)
I seem to remember you were going down the single driver route, too? 

As for the German, I had a German officemate who always tried to teach us a word or two.

Paul

Umm, yes, no, maybe regarding the single driver route. I did order the drivers, but had a very extensive listening session at a friend’s place using the exact same ones. The Mark Audio drivers were quite good, but I missed the dynamics and different presentation of my SP Techs which are now residing in Arkansas. I am checking out powered JBL 705p’s (recommended by a seasoned audiophile)and Elac Adante AS 61 and Elac Uni-Fi FS U5 Slim and the Fritz line. Depending on money, I may still get the Mark Audio single drivers.
Nick
Title: Re: cheap desktop setup
Post by: malloy on February 06, 2018, 09:18:59 PM
Here are the full range LGK kit if you are interested in building some speakers.  He has some cabinets as well.

http://gr-research.com/lgk10kit.aspx

Thanks! Will check this out. Never heard of this one.
Title: Re: cheap desktop setup
Post by: malloy on February 06, 2018, 09:24:48 PM

Umm, yes, no, maybe regarding the single driver route. I did order the drivers, but had a very extensive listening session at a friend’s place using the exact same ones. The Mark Audio drivers were quite good, but I missed the dynamics and different presentation of my SP Techs which are now residing in Arkansas. I am checking out powered JBL 705p’s (recommended by a seasoned audiophile)and Elac Adante AS 61 and Elac Uni-Fi FS U5 Slim and the Fritz line. Depending on money, I may still get the Mark Audio single drivers.
Nick

I've heard about the Andante's. Since it's an Andrew Jones design, it reminds me of those KEF reference speakers from the 90's that I so badly wanted. I've also toyed with the idea of the smaller Elac's (Uni B5 or Debut 6's) but am thinking I  can get away with something smaller since I have such a small space and am definitely using just my desk for now.
Title: Re: cheap desktop setup
Post by: tmazz on February 07, 2018, 04:18:36 PM
Check out Soundots Bluetooth speakers. Check out Omega speakers with a Peachtree integrated. Have fun.


charles

Do you remember the name of those little powered speakers that were a few doors down the hall from your room at CAF? (I'm having a senior moment here.  :roll:)


I thought they sounded very good for the size and price.
Title: Re: cheap desktop setup
Post by: malloy on February 08, 2018, 11:26:01 PM
I would strongly advise staying away from the powered speakers. Get yourself one of those tiny digital SMSL amps, or something similar, for about $60-80. Then pick up a HiFiMeDIY USB DAC for another $70. Add any non-powered used speaker that fits on your desktop and you will have far better sound than with any of the powered speakers.

These ones?  https://gemtuneonline.com/collections/smsl-digital-amp/products/smsl-sa-36a-pro-2-20w-tpa3118d2dap-amp-stereo-digital-amplifier-12v-power-adapter (https://gemtuneonline.com/collections/smsl-digital-amp/products/smsl-sa-36a-pro-2-20w-tpa3118d2dap-amp-stereo-digital-amplifier-12v-power-adapter)

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