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General Hospital => Special Events => Topic started by: evan1 on October 15, 2011, 03:46:38 PM
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I know everyone is busy with RMAF but check this out
http://www.chestergroup.org/
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Good find, hopefully I will have a room there.
charles
SMA
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I know everyone is busy with RMAF but check this out
http://www.chestergroup.org/
They had the flyers (handbills) around at RMAF...will be good if it happens...but expensive for vendors....it's NY. :?
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80 vendors and counting...last time I looked it was 56 (month ago)...should be over a 100 by the time the date rolls around.
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hopefully it won't be all smoke and mirrors, rumor has it the vendor list is not real.
NY needs this to be successful, or I fear there will not be a show in NY for a long time, so everyone should try to make it and show support.
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So who all is going on April 13, 14, 15? Pete and I will probably be there Friday (doors open at 3PM - 8PM) and we will assess if longer auditions on Sat or Sun are warranted.
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I'll try to go.
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Ill be there with Pete. Whats the best day to show up? Pete are you doing all 3 days?
M
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Ill be there with Pete. Whats the best day to show up? Pete are you doing all 3 days?
M
M,
I'll be there early on Friday; typically you can get there early with your trade pass credentials & have the whole place to yourself without the huge crowds...
Pete
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I want to go, not sure which day yet...
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Not sure if Totem will be there but if anyone gets to hear their Element line I'd love to hear some feedback, thanks.
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Not sure if Totem will be there but if anyone gets to hear their Element line I'd love to hear some feedback, thanks.
Totally, they look nice and based on previous listening experiences should be great! Hopefully they are there.
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102 vendors/exhibitors and counting...
I will be there Saturday.
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19 hours to showtime... :thumb:
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I'll be there tomorrow!
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Please do me a favor...have to work this weekend.
Check out those KEF Blade speakers....I've not heard those...look interesting....comments.
http://www.kef.com/html/us/showroom/flagship_hi-fi_series/blade/overview/ (http://www.kef.com/html/us/showroom/flagship_hi-fi_series/blade/overview/)
Their in the Audio Doctor's room - Beekman suite....thanks. :thumb:
Have fun....
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There's a bunch of us LI guys going this afternoon Chris. Yeah, these are on my list to hear also.
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Please do me a favor...have to work this weekend.
Check out those KEF Blade speakers....I've not heard those...look interesting....comments.
http://www.kef.com/html/us/showroom/flagship_hi-fi_series/blade/overview/ (http://www.kef.com/html/us/showroom/flagship_hi-fi_series/blade/overview/)
Their in the Audio Doctor's room - Beekman suite....thanks. :thumb:
Have fun....
Chris... That's a bummer :duh... We'll listen for you!
Pete
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There's a bunch of us LI guys going this afternoon Chris. Yeah, these are on my list to hear also.
Well Anthony cancelled on me, and I don't think I want to go alone.
When are you guys going? Give me a call, and maybe I can meet you there(?)
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Thinking about going Saturday. Anyone else going that day? Friday attendees, please report back on whether it's worth the trip and which rooms to hit.
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I think we have to make it worth the trip, if we don't go, there will be low attendance, and no desire for another show to come to NY.
I think this show is small enough that you easily hit all the rooms, then go back and linger in the ones you like.
And don't forget Wes has a room this year
I will be there tommorrow all day and looking foward to another gorgeous day! in NYC
Mike
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I'm going today. If anyone else is there and wants to hook up my cell is 9088848552
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Great show..... Just pics. My favorite rooms were sound by Singer verity Amadis.. 30K with VAC (yum)
And Gradient (fantastic live texturally sound...)
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The second to last ones sounded phenomenal... GT Audio, though the cabinet work was a lottle low grade, but if you listen in the dark it doesnt matter... $2795 or around there. Active 12 downward firing sub. Dual mids, ribbon and planar. Sounded awesome..
Also loved the warm inviting Sound Smith Room... And the Wilson Sashas in a couple rooms...
Oh and if you are into headphones Woo Audio... 2 entire rooms, freaking ridiculously great sound...
Im sure Bob will be more informaitive as he took notes.. And i just like to look at the pics anyway!
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Burmeister won Worst in show from me.
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How was the Amphions ?
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I always wanted to hear them, such gorgeous speakers. The model was the 7L not the flagship with the great review, one with holes.
They were driven by a Hegel amp and sounded thin, bright, no bass, no mids... It was a disaster.. Maybe it was the pairing, maybe need break-in. Not good tho.
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Lots of great monitors, one called The Clue, $995, placed up against the wall, the designer demands it, and ridiculous bass, tight and punchy too. Small waveguide in the tweet. Very nice.
Also the sound smith room... 3k monitores Lush, you could just sit there all day. No tubes either, shocking.. Driven by Jfet bridged amps, playing records. Wow..
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Nice pics Mike, thanks!
What did you guys think of Legacy Whisper and Focus SE? Especially the midrange ribbon, still hot?
How were the Coincident Pure Reference?
Rich
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I liked the legacy whisper. Huge. Nice soundstage, maybe a little tipped up. I didnt see the other speaker, maybe I missed a room.
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Blades were cool. They did everything but took everything too far. Right over the area from something in control to a notch over in the out of control area. Dynamics! Bass. But not in control. They have something there though 4 sure.
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Thanks for the reports, Mike!
Did you hear any of the Totem Element line?
-Mke
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No, I also didn't hear the new Revels. I didn't see either, I must have missed a row of rooms.
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Yes, the Gradients from Finland were a great surprise!
The GT Audio ribbons with active subs sounded really nice. Made at Greg Takesh's home in Stockholm, NJ... he said he love to host an audio meeting there! Hint, hint or bring his speakers to a club event!
The $999 "The Clue" was unbelievable! Never heard such bass in a small monitor... made in the state of Washington, too!
Yeah Andy Singer's Verity were stellar.
Soundsmith's room driven with a Strain Gauge and all Soundsmith electronics & speakers sounded great... you'd swear it was tube driven but not...
It was a fun, lonnnngggg day!
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Yg acoustice- pa speakers! Forward and not nuanced
Sony - veiled
Wilson sasha/vtl- nice, dynamic, open , diacordant, not well integrated
Scaena- not integratwd, hole in upper mids
Kef blades on koto drum track - nice but give me something real, on regular music very nice and integrated in a big crowded room. Bigger than life but pretty and dynamic. bass is still detached
Mbl - awesome. Cohesaive, dynamic, detailed. Not overly loud but still port bass boom
Gradient - best sound so far, cohesive, live, full range, very nice amd dynamic, soind very big for their size
Woo audio - headphones, probably best sound at the show
Veloce and little yg's7 sounds much better yhan the big yg's but a bit congested and not full range
Quad 58s- sometimes its easy to say it has all been done before and its not better, just dfferent. I don't think there was anything in this room that was lass than 20 years old.
Tad - no bass, toppy high end. Crappy am radio sound
The clue bookshelf speakers - $999 and they are phenominal, against the wall, cohesive and dynamic and awesome I want a pair of these. Call Bob Learner 908-967-5990
Singer verity vac - balanced nice on cd and spectacular on hi rez apl for about $100k, then a second system of Kudas (?) speakers and dart zeel integrated for about half that which sounded dynamically constrained bit still more cohesive than most if a bit flat
Amphion hegel - nice and open if a bit horny in the tweeter and tippy on the top end and needs a sub
Harbeths - somewhat flat and non dynamic. Not what I thought harbeths would sound like
RobertLlighton speakers and electronics - ok bit nothing spectacular. Rather home made look and not fully finished. Also somewhat closed in and typical small tweeter and big woofer sound with a hole.
Walker burmeister - a bit tame and over controlled but nice
Davinci wilson sasha pass - might be some of the best sound at the show but still a bit congested on complex stuff
Red wine - great synergy between all components and speakers, need to get Vinny to a local meeting
Hansen redpoint - Wes always makes sure thing sound good, dynamic and balanced
Soundsmith on a big vpi hrx - dynamic and natural on soundsmith firefly spealers and amp. Very very sweet. Just a wow sound. Not a tube in sight but wow tube sound
GF audio - panels and self powered cone woofers. Sound nice but looks bad for only $2750 pair and awesome at 3 times the price. Someone just buy these.
Audio note - boxy and closed in sound.
Arum cantus speakers, avid tube amps, vpi classic 4 (new tt) - big and dynamic and beautiful in 3 speaker sound (yup there was a center channel speaker too)
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Thanks Mike! :thumb: Your impression matches mine.
The coincidents were in your pictures, but obviously didn't blow your mind! :D
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Have to agree with others.
Soundsmith monitors were very impressive as were the Clues. Great sound from such small speakers in both rooms. One guy asked where the subwoofer was.
The GF Audio's finish looked like the shingles on my house and were in a really small room but sounded pretty good. Made by a guy in Stockholm, NJ. He's coming out with a bigger pair for around $5K.
The new VPI tables were both on display. Classic 4 has a bigger plinth and 2 tonearms. The new $1,299 table with a low end Soundsmith cart sounded almost as good as the 4.
Watched Michael Fremer demo how to set up a Scout TT. His setup equipment cost way more than the Scout did. Entertaining seminar.
Ran into Joe at the show. Said Evan (remember him) was coming but dinged up his knee. Thanx Joe for the subway pointers. 3 trains to get back to Penn Station.
I get on the Shuttle from GCS and I'm sitting next to a guy in full Rangers uniform except for the skates. Even has the gloves on. Is this guy going to the game dressed like this? We start talking and he's paid by the Rangers to sit on the shuttle to promote fan interest. Overtime. He shoots, he scores!
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http://www.gtaudioworks.com/ (http://www.gtaudioworks.com/)
Thanks for the comments and photos... :thumb:
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Just got back from a full evening, it was great :thumb:
Audio Note not too good
Legacy room was a bit thin
High water sound was really great at times and very warm and bloated at others, but potential is there.
Best of show were the Gradients, clean . clear., open, huge, tremendous stage and depth and totally scalable bass modules. When he mounted the tiny Harbeths on the top the mids were gorgeous, I could live with this system4 ever I think!
I would buy these no problem.
Best turntable at the show....TW Acustic beautiful sound
and yes Soundsmith had great sound absolutely!
and Vinny had great sound in the Red Wine room, clean and open with great tone, small speakers made for a small sound, but it was delicious!
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(http://www.audionervosa.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=3440.0;attach=3555;image)
It was the Gradients in your pic Mike, not Coincidents. :duh I thought Gradients were only the Helsinki, I didn't know about the Revolution. Sounds like it was a hit!
http://www.stereophile.com/content/gradients-revolution (http://www.stereophile.com/content/gradients-revolution)
Evan if you're lurking get better soon.
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Ahh.. these were probably Best in show... They are the Gradient actives. Perfect for Live jazz, intimate... I would have loved to hear some Grateful Dead on them. Really dynamite. And there website says 20 - 20kHz. Just the speaker with the pic leaning up against it was playing (pair) He said that with the extra unit(next to it, you dont get lower bass, but cleaner. But it sounded pretty clean to me. I dont think I heard anything that matched it in terms of texture or live immediacy.
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I agree, the Gradients were the bomb, but then so was the VPI room with the Arum Cantus speakers powered by Avid, and the big Singer room with Verity speakers and VAC power, and the Soundsmith room with their new bookshelf speakers.
As for the stuff nobody has heard of that you can get for a reasonable amount of money I would say "The Clue" bookshelf speakers for $995 and the GF Audio planer/cone panels for $2700.
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As for the stuff nobody has heard of that you can get for a reasonable amount of money I would say "The Clue" bookshelf speakers for $995...
They have shown at RMAF for two years now....music always played very loud...
http://www.sjofnhifi.com/index.html (http://www.sjofnhifi.com/index.html)
This was a good review from 2011....Link.. (http://www.positive-feedback.com/Issue53/clue.htm)
Here too.... (http://www.stereophile.com/content/clue-sjofn-hifi)
http://www.audiocircle.com/index.php?topic=86983.msg849908#msg849908 (http://www.audiocircle.com/index.php?topic=86983.msg849908#msg849908) :thumb:
GF Audio planer/cone panels for $2700.
It's GT Audio Works... (http://www.gtaudioworks.com/) :thumb:
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Gotta say, I felt a bit vindicated reading poor impressions of the TAD's. I've heard them a couple times now, and thought they sound ok to good ... certainly not stellar like most say after shows. I've thought they lack refinement and the presentation sounds a bit strained. And they present a wall of sound image, no ability at all to do pointpoint imaging.
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Glad a bunch of you liked The Clue. As some of you know, I'm the Tri-State dealer for them and obviously think they're great speakers on an absolute level, and just killer at $1K.
Hi to all I haven't seen for awhile, and btw, I'll likely host a rave later in the summer.
-- Bob Learner/Outreach A/V
btw II, I've been a huge Gradient fan for years -- not surprised at all at the comments I'm seeing here.
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Good to see you back Bob!
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Thanks Barry. Hope you're well and that we'll catch up sooner rather than later.
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Glad a bunch of you liked The Clue. As some of you know, I'm the Tri-State dealer for them and obviously think they're great speakers on an absolute level, and just killer at $1K.
Hi to all I haven't seen for awhile, and btw, I'll likely host a rave later in the summer.
-- Bob Learner/Outreach A/V
btw II, I've been a huge Gradient fan for years -- not surprised at all at the comments I'm seeing here.
Bob,
The Clue was sounding real good last Friday night. Thanks for the bourbon as well!!! BobM liked the Margaritas too!
It would be great if you could join us for the next GTG, whether it be a Syndrome or Rave event!
Cheers :beer:,
Pete
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Nice to see you Pete and glad you liked The Clue and the booze. Those were guava margaritas BobM liked mixed by yours truly.
Would love to attend the next GTG -- hope it works out.
-- Bob
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Everything in that room was yummy ... both the Margaritas and the sound. Thanks again Bob. I think if there was a center channel available those Clues might be finding a place in my livingroom TV home theater system.
(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_ksI5H-K89vw/SYuLgpfHoYI/AAAAAAAADiw/oMKX0GU6W4s/s400/habanero_guava_margarita.jpg)
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Glad you liked all aspects of the room Bob :D
Emailed you with some Clue details regarding HT, hope you don't mind.
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From Audiophilia.. the show was a while ago.. on why the TAD monitors sounded so bad:
http://www.audiophilia.com/wp/?p=7820 (http://www.audiophilia.com/wp/?p=7820)
Continuing on, we made it to the TAD (Technical Audio Devices) room where the featured, well touted, two way, stand mounted speaker was on display with Viola electronics. After listening to several selections, Mike and I looked at each other in disbelief. The sound was awful, muddy lacking focus, depth and any three- dimensional quality at all. We called over to discreetly talk to the proprietor and informed him something was terribly wrong and after some careful investigation, it was discovered that a re-wiring had been done several hours prior to our arrival and somehow one channel was using a digital interconnect and the other an analogue interconnect. When the problem was corrected, the room came to life and it went from one of great disappointment to one of true musical excitement. They were extremely thankful for our pointing out that a problem existed and that the solution ended up being so simple and the result so dramatic. Just your Audiophilia staff helping out.