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Offline James Edward

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Electrical Question
« on: May 17, 2022, 02:54:40 PM »
I’ll set this out as best I can… Audio Nervosa at its worst.
I have one duplex outlet for my audio equipment. It was wired (before I was here) so that the lower outlet is on a switch- to facilitate turning a light on/off, etc.
I have it in my head that there is detrimental effect of some kind with that switch; if this is so, should I plug everything into a strip from the non-switched outlet? I use a ‘purist’ strip- no switch, no light , no breaker, no power conditioning or surge protection.
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I currently plug the amp into the unswitched outlet, and the strip into the switched- the strip powers my TT, cd player, and Node 2 streamer…
More to this I guess, but any thoughts/opinions, etc., appreciated.
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Re: Electrical Question
« Reply #1 on: May 17, 2022, 06:31:20 PM »
I’ll break it down to this- do you think/know if there is a qualitative difference between the switched part of the outlet and the non-switched?
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Re: Electrical Question
« Reply #2 on: May 17, 2022, 07:31:55 PM »
I’ll set this out as best I can… Audio Nervosa at its worst.
I have one duplex outlet for my audio equipment. It was wired (before I was here) so that the lower outlet is on a switch- to facilitate turning a light on/off, etc.
I have it in my head that there is detrimental effect of some kind with that switch; if this is so, should I plug everything into a strip from the non-switched outlet? I use a ‘purist’ strip- no switch, no light , no breaker, no power conditioning or surge protection.
https://www.alliedelec.com/product/wiremold/l10320/70091760/
I currently plug the amp into the unswitched outlet, and the strip into the switched- the strip powers my TT, cd player, and Node 2 streamer…
More to this I guess, but any thoughts/opinions, etc., appreciated.
Thanks,
Jim

Hi James,

I would suggest not using a strip as that will negatively affect the sonics. Using a switched outlet is probably detrimental as well. The main problem is not enough power supply filtering sections to eliminate rectifier and before affects of
the music, which includes AC power source.

Jenalabs sells good (might ask about croyed) outlets the last time I checked. Of course there are also other companies that sell quality outlets as well.

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Re: Electrical Question
« Reply #3 on: May 19, 2022, 10:15:48 AM »
   For best results change duplex. It would be best to have dedicated lines. One for digital and one for analog. Then condition each line. Done.


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Re: Electrical Question
« Reply #4 on: June 04, 2022, 11:04:35 AM »
Well. I am trying a PI Audio ‘Uber Puerto’ outlet to feed the system. After install, I am simply using the unswitched half to feed the power strip I mentioned. My amp is 30 wpc, so I’m certainly not overreaching.
The Puerto grips the plug like crazy, and I do feel I’m hearing more subtle musical cues. I’d consider it an upgrade- something good’s happening here. It’s the little things…
When I cut power, I also realized there are more outlets on the circuit than I knew; wall warts and a dimmer are being addressed too.
More to come…
PS- Due to the construction layout of my house, and location of my electrical panel, there is no way to run a dedicated line without great expense.

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Re: Electrical Question
« Reply #5 on: June 04, 2022, 12:51:29 PM »
Jim I'm glad you were able to get your hands on an Uber Puerto. Liken you I heard subtle, but very noticeable and desirable changes when I installed mine. Kind of like putting an exrt coat of wax on a fine vintage car. Takes something that is already very good and just pushes it a little more over the top.

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Re: Electrical Question
« Reply #6 on: June 04, 2022, 02:09:05 PM »
Jim I'm glad you were able to get your hands on an Uber Puerto. Liken you I heard subtle, but very noticeable and desirable changes when I installed mine. Kind of like putting an exrt coat of wax on a fine vintage car. Takes something that is already very good and just pushes it a little more over the top.

(I hate to talk too nicely about the Uber Puetro. Too much good press might force Dave out of his well deserved retirement.  :roll:)
Perfect analogy Tom. Would’ve saved me some keystrokes!
FWIW, I also polished the electrical wire with some synthetic steel wool to get it shiny again… Every little thing.
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Re: Electrical Question
« Reply #7 on: December 14, 2022, 09:15:47 AM »
Jim I'm glad you were able to get your hands on an Uber Puerto. Liken you I heard subtle, but very noticeable and desirable changes when I installed mine. Kind of like putting an exrt coat of wax on a fine vintage car. Takes something that is already very good and just pushes it a little more over the top.

(I hate to talk too nicely about the Uber Puetro. Too much good press might force Dave out of his well deserved retirement.  :roll:)
Perfect analogy Tom. Would’ve saved me some keystrokes!
FWIW, I also polished the electrical wire with some synthetic steel wool to get it shiny again… Every little thing.


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