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Offline Carlman

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Re: Dodd Battery VGP Tube Pre-amp and N.Y.A.L. Moscode 600 Hybrid Amp
« Reply #30 on: February 02, 2013, 04:28:46 PM »
If you've got tubes lying around, what's the harm in experimenting?  I only have 2 tubes to roll so I would always roll to dial in the sound I like.
It's easy and fun to roll!
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Re: Dodd Battery VGP Tube Pre-amp and N.Y.A.L. Moscode 600 Hybrid Amp
« Reply #31 on: February 03, 2013, 09:08:58 AM »
  Bill how many tubaroonies in the Moscode [5] ? What types ? I agrre with Carlman and Joe. Prudent to wait, lets see how long you can put off the nervosa.  :-P



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Re: Dodd Battery VGP Tube Pre-amp and N.Y.A.L. Moscode 600 Hybrid Amp
« Reply #32 on: February 04, 2013, 05:29:00 AM »
  Bill how many tubaroonies in the Moscode [5] ? What types ? I agrre with Carlman and Joe. Prudent to wait, lets see how long you can put off the nervosa.  :-P

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1 of the 6DJ8 are a volt Regulator
2 of the 6FQ7 are a Cascode Follower

Although, George put a matched set of (4) 6GU7'S in place of what normally would be (2) 6DJ8's and (2) 6FQ7's when he updated my amp.

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Re: Dodd Battery VGP Tube Pre-amp and N.Y.A.L. Moscode 600 Hybrid Amp
« Reply #33 on: February 04, 2013, 06:24:20 AM »
You might find this article helpful Bill. Explains what those tubes are and how they came about.

http://www.fourwater.com/files/hist6sn7.txt

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Re: Dodd Battery VGP Tube Pre-amp and N.Y.A.L. Moscode 600 Hybrid Amp
« Reply #34 on: February 04, 2013, 06:33:34 AM »
You might find this article helpful Bill. Explains what those tubes are and how they came about.

http://www.fourwater.com/files/hist6sn7.txt

Thanx, Rich! :thumb:
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Re: Dodd Battery VGP Tube Pre-amp and N.Y.A.L. Moscode 600 Hybrid Amp
« Reply #35 on: February 27, 2013, 08:23:42 AM »
 SOOOOOOOOOOOOOO ! What is the verdict so far uncle tupelo !
BTW what brand of 6FQ7 and 6DJ8 tubes ?

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Re: Dodd Battery VGP Tube Pre-amp and N.Y.A.L. Moscode 600 Hybrid Amp
« Reply #36 on: February 27, 2013, 09:52:06 AM »
Good question, Sir Charles!  :)

About a month ago (see reply#20) I was up to about 60 hours of break in with the Dodd and Moscode 600.  Unfortunately, I haven't gotten that much more time logged onto the system (maybe another 20 or so hours?) because of my determination to get my vinyl rig set up again (http://www.audionervosa.com/index.php?topic=3719.0) thus my lack of commentary lately. 

So far (even with about 80 hours in) I haven't gotten to that "drop off" that you and Gary said to expect in the break-in process.  Nonetheless, my system is sounding really, really good.  It is absolutely the LEAST Hi-fi sounding combination of components I have ever had in my house!

If it's going to continue to get even better with more hours on it, I can't wait. 

T.B.C.

SN

P.S. - I also have added another T.W.L. cord to my system, so ALL of my cords are now Triode Wire Labs cords.  I'm sure that didn't hurt things any!  ;)  Thanks, Pete!
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Re: Dodd Battery VGP Tube Pre-amp and N.Y.A.L. Moscode 600 Hybrid Amp
« Reply #37 on: March 03, 2013, 04:52:21 PM »
It's time for an update, Bill.  What is your impression of the Moscode upgrades?  What about that Dodd?

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Re: Dodd Battery VGP Tube Pre-amp and N.Y.A.L. Moscode 600 Hybrid Amp
« Reply #38 on: March 03, 2013, 05:24:22 PM »
It's time for an update, Bill.  What is your impression of the Moscode upgrades?  What about that Dodd?

Scott

Hi Scott

My last comment was only 4 days ago.  (See reply#36 above.)  As I've said before, it's tough to distinguish what changes in my system can be attributed to what as far as the Upgraded Moscode 600 vs. the new Dodd VGP Pre-amp.

Things just seem to continue to get better as I get more hours logged in to the system.  I think I mentioned a few details in my earlier posts on first impressions... there's a better depth of soundstage with more layering and more subtle details going on that I am guessing is the Dodd.  The overall relaxed, effortless feel is most likely the Moscode 600's seemingly limitless "horsepower".

Like I wrote in my last post... (this) "is absolutely the LEAST Hi-fi sounding combination of components I have ever had in my house!"  I don't think I can sum it up much better than that.  :)

T.B.C.

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Re: Dodd Battery VGP Tube Pre-amp and N.Y.A.L. Moscode 600 Hybrid Amp
« Reply #39 on: March 04, 2013, 07:18:23 AM »
George had done some cap and resistor upgrades to my 401HR (with noticeable differences in bass), but I have a 300 that is currently in the shop with Gary D. I was thinking that your experience with the 600 might give me insight as to what to do with it. It's already had most of George's upgrades, but I was thinking of having even better caps put in.
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Re: Dodd Battery VGP Tube Pre-amp and N.Y.A.L. Moscode 600 Hybrid Amp
« Reply #40 on: March 04, 2013, 08:01:33 AM »
George had done some cap and resistor upgrades to my 401HR (with noticeable differences in bass), but I have a 300 that is currently in the shop with Gary D. I was thinking that your experience with the 600 might give me insight as to what to do with it. It's already had most of George's upgrades, but I was thinking of having even better caps put in.

Hi Scott

My 600 had all of the Kaye mods already done when I bought it except the MIT Multi Caps.  George went through the whole amp and "freshened up" whatever needed to be addressed considering it's age.

See attached screen-grab for details.
(I hope this helps!?!)

Bill
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Re: Dodd Battery VGP Tube Pre-amp and N.Y.A.L. Moscode 600 Hybrid Amp
« Reply #41 on: March 08, 2013, 03:21:07 PM »
Now, all you need is one of these...

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Re: Dodd Battery VGP Tube Pre-amp and N.Y.A.L. Moscode 600 Hybrid Amp
« Reply #42 on: March 09, 2013, 04:54:17 AM »
feel is most likely the Moscode 600's seemingly limitless "horsepower".

Bill while the Moscode's output is not limitless it does have significant horsepower. Since mine is pushing 600 wpc into the T4 ohm Thiel CS-3.5s in the mini-mancave I have always liked to respond to questions about its output by telling people that it was a 1.6 horsepower amp.  :rofl:

http://www.rapidtables.com/convert/power/watt-to-hp.htm
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Re: Dodd Battery VGP Tube Pre-amp and N.Y.A.L. Moscode 600 Hybrid Amp
« Reply #43 on: March 09, 2013, 06:23:35 AM »
Now, all you need is one of these...

I would've bid on the Dodd Donation Edition, but there was no way I could've gone for the $1,700.00 for it.

Maybe, someday!?!

SN
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Re: Dodd Battery VGP Tube Pre-amp and N.Y.A.L. Moscode 600 Hybrid Amp
« Reply #44 on: March 09, 2013, 06:24:49 AM »
feel is most likely the Moscode 600's seemingly limitless "horsepower".

Bill while the Moscode's output is not limitless it does have significant horsepower. Since mine is pushing 600 wpc into the T4 ohm Thiel CS-3.5s in the mini-mancave I have always liked to respond to questions about its output by telling people that it was a 1.6 horsepower amp.  :rofl:

http://www.rapidtables.com/convert/power/watt-to-hp.htm

Is that with STP or without!?!  :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
"Friends, Romans & Countrymen; lend me your ears"

• Primaluna Dialogue Tube Pre-Amp
• N.Y.A.L. Moscode 600 Amp
• Bolder/EE Minimax DAC
• Cambridge D-500SE CDP
• Von Schweikert 2012 Mod.VR-4 Gen.III speakers
• VPI Prime/Soundsmith MMP3/DV20x2H
• T.W.L