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Systemic Development => Bipolar System Disorders => Topic started by: James Edward on January 21, 2017, 07:44:42 AM

Title: What Did You Do When You Thought You Were Done?
Post by: James Edward on January 21, 2017, 07:44:42 AM
I am loving my system's sound these days. The rum-fueled 105+db sessions always sounded great, and I recently added Walker HDL's, which improved low db listening as well.
I've been comparing the sound differences in how/where the speaker wire and jumpers are utilized. I've settled on speaker wire to the upper frequency terminals and jumpers down to the woofers. If you haven't experimented with this, you should.
I understand there is a certain 'need to tweak' aspect of this that defies logic; I really do enjoy the hell out of my system, yet feel the need to mess with it.

System:
Legacy Focus SE with AMT Tweeter
Luxman L-590AX Mk2 Integrated
Esoteric K-07x SACD
Anti Cables 2.1 Speaker wire/jumpers
Audience Au24Se interconnects
Shunyata power cords
Walker Reference High Definition Links

Title: Re: What Did You Do When You Thought You Were Done?
Post by: Emil on January 21, 2017, 08:33:41 AM

Continue to be new music to keep things fresh.

Title: Re: What Did You Do When You Thought You Were Done?
Post by: Triode Pete on January 21, 2017, 09:00:18 AM
Jim,
You're not done! You could get better sound quality... Just saying!

Cheers,
Pete
Title: Re: What Did You Do When You Thought You Were Done?
Post by: James Edward on January 21, 2017, 09:37:18 AM

Continue to be new music to keep things fresh.


I've been on a tear there- been averaging 3-5 new cd's a week. New music, and old music that's new to me
Jim,
You're not done! You could get better sound quality... Just saying!

Cheers,
Pete
With this?
http://www.machinadynamica.com/machina60.htm
Title: Re: What Did You Do When You Thought You Were Done?
Post by: Triode Pete on January 21, 2017, 09:51:20 AM

Continue to be new music to keep things fresh.


I've been on a tear there- been averaging 3-5 new cd's a week. New music, and old music that's new to me
Jim,
You're not done! You could get better sound quality... Just saying!

Cheers,
Pete
With this?
http://www.machinadynamica.com/machina60.htm

Yes!!! With that and with some "magic stuff" from fellow club members!  :beer:
Title: Re: What Did You Do When You Thought You Were Done?
Post by: James Edward on January 21, 2017, 11:21:18 AM

I'm no Carnac the Magnificent, but I'm guessing the "magic stuff" has something to do with cabling.  :mrgreen:
Due to my domestic situation, the speaker cable lengths are roughly 20ft and 26 ft. This makes the more expensive stuff prohibitively expensive...
Title: Re: What Did You Do When You Thought You Were Done?
Post by: jessearias on January 21, 2017, 02:47:02 PM
Between this hobby and cars, it is never ending story of going faster or sounding better.  :thumb:

Speed is very addicting and so is good sound.  :rofl:

That's why I get up in the morning and go to work everyday.  :roll:

PS: I contribute to Pete's retirement fund on a regular basis.  :thumb:  Dave's too.  :thumb:
Title: Re: What Did You Do When You Thought You Were Done?
Post by: mfsoa on January 21, 2017, 04:24:43 PM
What about incorporating a computer into your system?

With that killer DAC you'd be set. Less than $100 for a Raspberry Pi - easy to set up with free software.

At this point I couldn't imagine NOT having the internet's music resources being fully integrated into my systems.

There is so much freaking music available for free. Music I've never heard and will never hear again, breathing life into me for the time that we share our existence - I listen to a Czech classical station that broadcasts in greater than CD quality all day. No ads.

Makes going back to my familiar stuff seem old and stale.

=Mike
Title: Re: What Did You Do When You Thought You Were Done?
Post by: James Edward on January 21, 2017, 05:30:57 PM
What about incorporating a computer into your system?

With that killer DAC you'd be set. Less than $100 for a Raspberry Pi - easy to set up with free software.

At this point I couldn't imagine NOT having the internet's music resources being fully integrated into my systems.

There is so much freaking music available for free. Music I've never heard and will never hear again, breathing life into me for the time that we share our existence - I listen to a Czech classical station that broadcasts in greater than CD quality all day. No ads.

Makes going back to my familiar stuff seem old and stale.

=Mike

This really does need to be my next step.
Title: Re: What Did You Do When You Thought You Were Done?
Post by: richidoo on January 21, 2017, 07:06:55 PM
What about incorporating a computer into your system?

I listen to a Czech classical station that broadcasts in greater than CD quality all day. No ads.

+1 on internet radio. Even if it's compressed, very enjoyable to discover new music.  Then you can buy CD if desired.

Mike, can you post a link to that Czech station? Thanks!
Title: Re: What Did You Do When You Thought You Were Done?
Post by: mfsoa on January 22, 2017, 07:14:39 AM
The station is (address coming from Moode Audio Player as it plays)

http://amp1.cesnet.cz:8000/cro-d-dur.flac

Czech Radio Classical (FLAC)


I haven't been able to play this station with JRiver or Logitech Media Server but I didn't try too hard.

The way-cool program VLC Player plays it perfectly on my local PC speakers, and now I can finally send it easily to my main system by using a Rasby Pi running Moode. Moode is set to upsample everyting to 192, so the station comes in at 16/48 and goes to the DAC at 24/192. Sounds nice. This station's address is one of hundreds(?) pre-loaded when you run Moode. Pick your top 10 and you have more new music then you can ever consume. Free plus $50 for the Pi.

Rich, let me know if you get it working. They play a lot of obscure (to me) classical. It's great.

0.0% chance of me hearing any of this music before the internet.

James, the cool thing w/ PC audio is you can start with a little side-attachment thingy (Pi? Chromecast? Bluesound? Heos...) and use it as an internet "radio" player, or you can centralize your system around the PC and go as far down that rabbit hole as you can stand.


-Mike
Title: Re: What Did You Do When You Thought You Were Done?
Post by: richidoo on January 22, 2017, 09:39:40 AM
I was listening to D-Dur last night on 128k, it is a great playlist. Thanks for the FLAC link. Sonos should be able to pull it in. This menu may help too: http://amp1.cesnet.cz/
Title: Re: What Did You Do When You Thought You Were Done?
Post by: richidoo on January 22, 2017, 10:05:13 AM
James, a Raspberry Pi is very cheap hardware and the operating system and music playback software are free. It is simple and easy to make it work.
https://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_ss_c_1_12?url=search-alias%3Daps&field-keywords=raspberry+pi+3
Title: Re: What Did You Do When You Thought You Were Done?
Post by: tmazz on January 22, 2017, 09:58:23 PM
Most people here won't be done until the throw the dirt on us......   :rofl:
Title: Re: What Did You Do When You Thought You Were Done?
Post by: James Edward on January 23, 2017, 03:38:07 AM
Most people here won't be done until the throw the dirt on us......   :rofl:

Ain't that the truth.
Title: Re: What Did You Do When You Thought You Were Done?
Post by: StereoNut on January 23, 2017, 06:11:04 AM
Most people here won't be done until the throw the dirt on us......   :rofl:
Just make sure it's been "cryo'd" first!!!  :rofl:

SN
Title: Re: What Did You Do When You Thought You Were Done?
Post by: jimbones on January 23, 2017, 08:16:32 AM
Done?! Done?! We're never done!! [-X
Title: Re: What Did You Do When You Thought You Were Done?
Post by: BobM on January 25, 2017, 06:57:09 AM
Here's some thoughts to get you back "on track"

- Do you ever use headphones? Wait for a sale on Sennheiser HD600's, they come up every so often, and go for it. Or find another set you like, then get a decent tubed headphone amp.

- Check out all the complexity in digital audio. Get a laptop and start loading a new 2tb hard drive with rips, then begin the DAC rotation game.

- But some more of Pete's cables.

- Think about getting a sub, or if you have one, get another.

- Go attend the next audio show  that should start your juices flowing.

Title: Re: What Did You Do When You Thought You Were Done?
Post by: richidoo on January 25, 2017, 09:24:28 AM
- But some more of Pete's cables.

+1

I used antecable (IC, SC and autoformers) with Focus 2020 in my first system back in 2006. Friends politely recommended I try some other cables, and they were right. ymmv

My old system was fun but relatively low resolution. But with a system like yours a cable quest would be a lot of fun, even if you stayed with the antecables in the end.
Title: Re: What Did You Do When You Thought You Were Done?
Post by: sleepyguy24 on January 25, 2017, 10:37:21 AM
For me when I thought I was done I just sat back, breathed a sigh of relief  and listened to some music.

We are never truly done. There is always some piece of equipment or tweak to try.
Title: Re: What Did You Do When You Thought You Were Done?
Post by: Carlman on January 30, 2017, 08:01:34 AM
Thanks for the tips on internet radio stuff... that is my next quest if I ever get time... just more music.
It takes a lot of time to find something I really enjoy.  There is a spiritual message in music for me; and finding that takes more than an algorithm of "if you like this, you might like that" based on other people's preferences. 

So, I can't use traditional (easy) means to find music... so, finding and exploring with people is my best bet.  Listening to music with my fellow audio enthusiasts has gotten me into some new music before.  I'd like to do that again.  What was once so easy is now so difficult. 

My life is extremely full right now.  I'm not just busy, I'm carrying a load.  I'm in the thick of it... etc.  But, one thing I can say, when I do have a little spare time, is that is extremely rewarding to listen to my completed audio system. 

That system really is 'done'.  I got a new DAC that just clicked with my system like nothing before.  (a Vi DAC from LH Labs)  It's kind of finicky about its setup but very rewarding when done right.

I have tried selling my old dac but haven't gotten ANY interest at all.  It's really weird.  If someone knows something I don't, please tell me.  (Like, didn't you know, all Buffalo DAC's are exploding now?  or... you used blue tape to keep the wires down? Don't you know that blue tape makes music sound awful?... etc.. ) ;)

Anyway, I'm pretty happy these days... just never ending tasks fill every hour of every day.  Even nights are full of feeding a baby, or just getting woken up for whatever reason someone has some issue and makes a lot of noise... or even myself with a bad cough for 2 weeks...

Mainly I enjoy the feeling of being done because it allows me to feel relief.  Feeling relieved is very helpful to me so that is my primary motivation... Ahhh.. what a relief!
Title: Re: What Did You Do When You Thought You Were Done?
Post by: richidoo on January 30, 2017, 11:40:22 AM
Email sent with selling advice.

Hint: Don't say I built it!  :lol:
Title: Re: What Did You Do When You Thought You Were Done?
Post by: mdconnelly on January 31, 2017, 08:33:27 AM
I'll never be done, but I definitely go in waves... several years with no changes and everything sounding great and then I hear about something that sparks the nervosa of this hobby.

I do get influenced when hanging around online audiophile forums and now that I'm retired I must do better at resisting the urge to spend money when I'm no longer making it.   That would be a big FAIL so far.  :duh

There was a time when I firmly believed that I was building toward an ultimate system.  I've owned a few components over the years that I considered "cornerstones" - something I'd never sell.  Yeah, they're pretty much gone.  The only one I still have is my vinyl rig. 

The truth is, this is an addictive hobby in an ever-changing business.  So what may have been "awesome" a few years ago has had it's butt kicked by newer technology (that will undoubtedly have it's butt kicked soon as well).

Now maybe, if I'd just stuck with vinyl, the rate of change would be far less... nah, probably not.

Title: Re: What Did You Do When You Thought You Were Done?
Post by: rollo on February 03, 2017, 12:15:23 PM
  If you truly love music and desire a closer to real life experience one is never done.
   Source components aka DAC's are getting better. It ain't over til it's over.


charles