I will agree though that there is a lot more to it than saying 12ga in a 4-8 ohm load anything should be fine. I find a diff between a HT Pro 11 and a Pro 9 over only 8'
Bryan
Hey Bryan,
What more to it is there? I'm not trying to start a pissing match.....more trying to learn.
If there is something more to do it, please explain. I have a decent amount of knowledge on speaker impedance and wire resistance, skin effect, capacitance and inductance and based on what I know, there is no more to it. The lower the impedance of the speaker, the resistance will be higher but once the AWG of the wire is factored in and the actual conductor is taken into consideration, what else is there?
I don't know the HT Pro 11 and Pro 9 but I'm assuming that they are the exact same wire with different awg correct? If so there should be no difference over 8 feet. Technically its impossible for there to be any audible difference. Now if there are differences in the conductors etc, that is different but if it's simply the awg that is different.....I'm lost.
You're right - there should be no difference - but it's there. Same wire, smaller guage, same connectors, etc. Definite difference.
Skin effect at audio frequencies IMO is hogwash. Cable geometry also plays a role as does dielectric/insulation. Try for yourself. Take the same type of cable and use 4 conductors. Try twisting 2 twisted pairs vs twisting all 4. Also try the diff between 1 twist per foot vs 1 per 6" vs 1 per 2-3". All will sound slightly different. Try measuring those differences though.
There are differences between coarse and fine stranding in the same guage and material which are very easy to hear. Those differences become more apparent as more length is introduced.
I have no idea why. I'm not an enginerd
but I trust me ears. I was never a cable believer. But then I actually participated in a blind listening test and it was actually pretty surprising to me. Even so, I never could justify the cost of cabling vs the improvements made. Then I took the Pro 9's in on trade and put them in my system. The difference was not at all subtle. I wanted to try them on my other system but didn't want to spend the money on the 9's for the smaller system so I bought a used pair of 11's that were also 8'. They still sound REALLY good - but they're not the same as the 9's.
300WPC into a 4 ohm load with 11 ga wire should be no problem whatsoever according to the forumulas. 9ga sounds better though.
I'll agree with Mike that it's a function of the whole system. It's how the speaker/amp interface works with the wire - not just how the wire measures by itself.
Bryan