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Re: Vinyl Cleaning Experiment
« Reply #15 on: November 06, 2014, 08:03:25 AM »
  Men this is why I love this site. Bill very funny. I gave  up cleaning Lps. I have people. Gotta get a Brazilian cleaning girl, oh my !.


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Re: Vinyl Cleaning Experiment
« Reply #16 on: November 06, 2014, 12:11:07 PM »
Thanks, Charles!  I wish I had a bigger picture to work from.  But, I thought it was worth fooling with.

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« Reply #17 on: November 06, 2014, 12:17:56 PM »
That ain't nuthin! I prefer to incinerate any foreign debis on my LP's!
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Re: Vinyl Cleaning Experiment
« Reply #18 on: November 06, 2014, 02:06:37 PM »
I could pump gasoline through the PW?



The surbuf pads arrived, they look good, feel stiffer than velour. I'll try them out asap.

Cleaning solutions I want to try
everclear + folex (on the rocks)
baking soda slurry paste to rub into the grooves with a soft rubber roller with a vinegar rinse
bleach + soap

Oh, the horror! Vinyl worshippers look away!! I will desecrate the holy of holies where the evil mold colonies lie in hiding, the villagers too afraid to attack the evil warlocks because they occupy sacred ground.

All of these chems are safe for PVC, despite the rampant fear mongering that keeps disc doctor in business. Knowledge dissipates fear. Nitty gritty once sold a cleaning solution called Nitty Gritty "First." It was discontinued due to dangerous chemicals - dangerous to the user, that is, not to the records.  :rofl:

Griot Garage sells a variable speed 3" orbital polisher. Surbuf makes 3" pads. See where this is headed? I'm sure it would put microscratches on the flats, removing the shine. Oh, the horror! But it wouldn't affect the sound because stylus only lives down in the groove not on the shiny flats between the grooves. The aim is to get the fibers down into the groove with 3000rpm vibration. Wouldn't it be funny if this cleaned out the grooves, but took away the shine of the flats? The record would look like a chalkboard but play nice. I'm waiting to find out what the orbital diameter is. It has to be about half the length of the fibers in order to clean down inside the groove. I think it will be too big of an orbit for LP cleaning. I need like 1mm movement.  Maybe a vibrator will work. :rofl: 

Oh the horror! Would you use a Hitachi Magic Wand vibrator on your LPs? Hang it up on the turntable rack for all to see. hahaha

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Re: Vinyl Cleaning Experiment
« Reply #19 on: November 07, 2014, 06:07:28 AM »
Rich hard at work on his next record cleaning formula!
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Re: Vinyl Cleaning Experiment
« Reply #20 on: November 07, 2014, 08:54:47 AM »
Rich hard at work on his next record cleaning formula!

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Re: Vinyl Cleaning Experiment
« Reply #21 on: November 08, 2014, 09:07:12 AM »
Remember, it's all about the music........

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Re: Vinyl Cleaning Experiment
« Reply #22 on: November 08, 2014, 12:59:45 PM »
That looks pretty cool, Tom!  Nice laser etch graphics.

Mine is made of two sewer pipe cleanout plugs with two toilet flush valve gaskets, bolt, knob. Both sides are sealed so I can flip and do both sides together.

Groovemaster is still on Ebay too.

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Re: Vinyl Cleaning Experiment
« Reply #23 on: November 08, 2014, 06:28:02 PM »
That looks pretty cool, Tom!  Nice laser etch graphics.

Mine is made of two sewer pipe cleanout plugs with two toilet flush valve gaskets, bolt, knob. Both sides are sealed so I can flip and do both sides together.

Groovemaster is still on Ebay too.

I think I like your idea better Rich. Sounds like it set you back a whole lot less than 100 bucks.  :thumb:
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Re: Vinyl Cleaning Experiment
« Reply #24 on: November 09, 2014, 06:46:56 PM »
This is what I did for label protector. Probably about $20 of parts from Lowes. Drill 1/4" holes in the caps.

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Re: Vinyl Cleaning Experiment
« Reply #25 on: November 09, 2014, 06:55:19 PM »
Then I made a wooden support platform to hold a record while I applied the liquid watts. The idea is for it to prevent tipping, sliding away, etc, and also to allow flipping the record over to do both sides without stopping the PW. On this try the little center hole is not deep enough to fit the knob so I'll have to make another one sometime.  3 coats of Miniwax Polycrylic stands up to the PW.

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Re: Vinyl Cleaning Experiment
« Reply #26 on: November 09, 2014, 06:57:53 PM »
Outside

3rd pic is a ring on the concrete drive made by the PW going over the record edge.

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Re: Vinyl Cleaning Experiment
« Reply #27 on: November 10, 2014, 05:24:35 AM »
Gotta hand it to you Perfessor, another excellent "how to".  :thumb:

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Re: Vinyl Cleaning Experiment
« Reply #28 on: January 09, 2015, 02:30:44 PM »
So Bob -- how do you clean them in the winter?  -7 here in Chi-town today :-k
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Re: Vinyl Cleaning Experiment
« Reply #29 on: January 09, 2015, 05:11:07 PM »
So Bob -- how do you clean them in the winter?  -7 here in Chi-town today :-k

Winter = Dirty records!