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Systemic Development => Amplification and Preamplification => Topic started by: sleepyguy24 on October 21, 2016, 06:24:10 PM

Title: Weird preamp issue! I touch the input knob or volume knob & hum/buzz appears
Post by: sleepyguy24 on October 21, 2016, 06:24:10 PM
Hey everyone.

Has anyone encountered an issue like this before. I have a 12AU7 based tube preamp and if I leave the volume at normal listening & turn off the music when I touch the volume control or input control I hear a buzz coming from both speakers. When I stop touching either control the buzz stops.

The volume is a stepped one and at each time I adjust the volume I hear a pop or staticy type of noise from the speakers. I'm going to give the internals a round of deoxit later but am wondering if there is a bigger problem at hand. The preamp is about 9 years old and has seen normal usage.

Thanks in advance & if any other details are needed please let me know.
Title: Re: Weird preamp issue! I touch the input knob or volume knob & hum/buzz appears
Post by: jimbones on October 21, 2016, 07:03:19 PM
ground issue? Did this just start happening, any changes in the set up?
Title: Re: Weird preamp issue! I touch the input knob or volume knob & hum/buzz appears
Post by: sleepyguy24 on October 21, 2016, 08:12:36 PM
ground issue? Did this just start happening, any changes in the set up?


Evening Jim

You got my mind thinking some more on this. This weird buzzing just started happening. Before I was using this preamp as a tube buffer. It was between an Oppo BDP 83 and a refurbed Accuphase C200. When I was using it as a tube buffer Volume was set as a fixed point as well as the input. It was barely touched and when I did touch the controls nothing was heard. Now I'm bringing it back to full preamp duty as the right channel on my Accuphase is acting up.

Regarding the ground loop. Good point. I may have to test that theory out more. For kicks I took an Ebtech Hum X and put it on the preamp. Still had the weird buzzing issue.

Info about the Ebtech btw

http://www.ebtechaudio.com/humxdes.html

Also this buzzing happens only when I touch the volume control and input control only. If I touch the power knob, which is made of the same material, no buzzing. If I touch the phono inputs or outputs no buzzing. Real weird.

Well Thanks again for the ideas. You got me thinking about more potential issues. Best of luck with that MiniDSP24. I found a video on youtube where a guy was explaining stuff about it and told him of your issue. No word yet.
Title: Re: Weird preamp issue! I touch the input knob or volume knob & hum/buzz appears
Post by: jimbones on October 22, 2016, 10:44:42 AM
go back to the original config and see if it still happens. BTW, MMA Rulz.  :rofl:
Title: Re: Weird preamp issue! I touch the input knob or volume knob & hum/buzz appears
Post by: richidoo on October 22, 2016, 03:50:27 PM
Sounds like internal ground issue some joint has come loose or gotten dirty. DeOxit is a good idea, do the RCAs and the PC contacts too. Wiggle the tube sockets to clean the tube pins.

It might be exacerbated recently with cold temps and lower humidity making more static electricity.
Good luck Dean
Title: Re: Weird preamp issue! I touch the input knob or volume knob & hum/buzz appears
Post by: Response Audio on February 11, 2017, 11:26:02 AM
Sounds to me like you need a better ground from the volume control body. This is a common problem. If the body of the volume control does not have a good ground, you will experience exactly what you described.
Title: Re: Weird preamp issue! I touch the input knob or volume knob & hum/buzz appears
Post by: sleepyguy24 on February 13, 2017, 08:45:24 PM
Sounds to me like you need a better ground from the volume control body. This is a common problem. If the body of the volume control does not have a good ground, you will experience exactly what you described.

Thanks for the advice. You are right on the money. The volume control didn't have a good ground and there were issues with the volume control itself. I had to have it changed out entirely and some re-wiring done. All is good now. I have to get used to the new volume control that was installed. It is thick. I feel I need a socket wrench to turn the volume to where I want it.
Title: Re: Weird preamp issue! I touch the input knob or volume knob & hum/buzz appears
Post by: BobM on February 21, 2017, 07:20:31 AM
Does it happen on all source settings or only one? It may not be the preamp that has a grounding issue, it may be the source component grounding to the preamp through your RCA's and causing the hum.

Title: Re: Weird preamp issue! I touch the input knob or volume knob & hum/buzz appears
Post by: sleepyguy24 on February 22, 2017, 08:17:40 PM
Does it happen on all source settings or only one? It may not be the preamp that has a grounding issue, it may be the source component grounding to the preamp through your RCA's and causing the hum.


Evening Bob

The hum happened on all source settings. I was using 2 inputs and no matter what source I switched to there was a very bad hum. Thanks to SG Custom Sound it is sounding great again. I wish you all could feel this volume control. Very sturdy.
Title: Re: Weird preamp issue! I touch the input knob or volume knob & hum/buzz appears
Post by: tmazz on February 23, 2017, 08:04:52 AM
Scott is the man!  :thumb: