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Systemic Development => Speakers => Topic started by: James Edward on October 21, 2020, 02:45:54 PM

Title: Thinking About Something Completely Different...
Post by: James Edward on October 21, 2020, 02:45:54 PM
For no other reason than I’d like a change, I’m thinking of changing out my Spatial Audio M3 Turbo S speakers for either a stand mount monitor or a small floorstander.
I’m thinking out loud here- I was full on (in my mind) for a stand mount monitor, until I realized that my speaker cables are not long enough to go upward another two feet or so. My situation necessitates long cables, so another set is out. Then of course there is the issue of purchasing stands. Dollar signs all around.
So I think a small floor standing monitor might be in my future. I REALLY liked the QLN Prestige Three-https://qln.se/prestige-three/ at the NYC Audio Show- coincidentally in the Triode Wire Labs room.
However, at $9500.00, they are WAY out of my price range.
I also still value the ability of a speaker to play fairly loudly. To further complicate matters, my amp will output 30wpc in class A, and go to about 90wpc a/b.
As I said, I’m thinking out loud here, so any thoughts are appreciated. I’m looking to keep ‘my new speakers’ close to what I believe I can sell the Spatials for- around $2500 give or take...
Thanks for any thoughts.
Jim
Title: Re: Thinking About Something Completely Different...
Post by: Nick B on October 21, 2020, 10:10:55 PM
Jim,

Two stand mount speakers come to mind: the Fritz 7 BE (that I have) and the Tekton Impact Monitor (that I nearly bought). I like stand mount speakers, because at my age, I’m able to easily still move them around. The Fritzes weigh about 30 pounds each and the Tekton Impact Monitor is 43 pounds. I had heard very good things about both brands and Charles recommended the Fritzes. I communicated with tekton a couple of times, but was never able to speak with Eric Alexander directly. His secretary relayed his answers to my questions and that influenced my decision a little bit. The Tektons are more efficient at I believe 94dB and the Fritz are 87dB. But according to Fritz, they are pretty easy to drive because of his crossover design. I believe he told me he’s used as little as an 8 watt amp.

Retail on the Fritz is $3,500, but Fritz has been known to offer discounts and Charles is a dealer as well. The Impact Monitor goes for about $2,000. My little Fritzes can play quite loud and the bass response is more than enough for me. It’s a great two way 😀

Good luck!
Nick

http://www.fritzspeakers.com/

https://www.tektondesign.com/impact-monitor.html

PS forgot to mention I use 24” B & W stands (forgot what model) and the  24” Pangeas are $200



Title: Re: Thinking About Something Completely Different...
Post by: BobM on October 22, 2020, 06:34:11 AM
My God, there are so many choices and so many opinions on what good sound is. You really have to just find a way to try out a few and make a decision on what works in your room with your type of music. I would suggest going used, that way if it doesn't work out you could likely sell it for what you paid.
Title: Re: Thinking About Something Completely Different...
Post by: rollo on October 22, 2020, 12:59:59 PM
  Hey Nick thanks for sharing. If cannot swing the QLN Fritz is a killer over achiever. Did you them when I demoed them at Andy's. Very well liked.

charles
Title: Re: Thinking About Something Completely Different...
Post by: steve on October 22, 2020, 01:56:10 PM
Some really nice suggestions above James.

If you don't mind a great sounding pair of used, I have a pair of Danish System Audio 1270s. They are only 6" wide. They feature dual 5" drivers with a cone mass of only 1 gram each (excluding VC). Here are their specs.

Belastbarhed: 170 Watt •
Impedans: 4 Ohm •
Frekvensgang (+/- 1.5 dB): 40-22.000 Hz
•Følsomhed (1W, 1m): 89 dB
•Delefrekvens: 3500 Hz (24 dB/okt. Linkwitz/Riley) •
Dimensioner (BxHxD) cm: 15x104x26.6
New Price: $2500.00
Used Price: Negotiate
I will not ship, but will meet half way up to 100 miles or so.

Do you live anywhere close to Peoria Illinois, to audition them?
First photo is SA, the rest are mine.

cheers

steve
Title: Re: Thinking About Something Completely Different...
Post by: Folsom on October 22, 2020, 08:15:00 PM
Whoooaaa whoooaaa.....

Let's talk about sonic goals before we start suggesting everything under the sun. You've got a very nice pair of speakers, and you're focused on a change.

What is missing from your audio experience? Are you not listening enough?

The speakers you linked to looked sorta interesting but honestly there's no way they can equal the dynamics of the Spatials. I'd be very hesitant to go from something I could play classical on for a thrill to something that does a mediocre job.

I believe with a little more information there may be paths for you that you haven't really explored that may be unlike what you're thinking now. In fact I think your speakers an amp are probably the best parts of what you got going on. I think your speaker wire is a good choice too. I can pretty much promise the weakest link you have is the turntable setup. So if this isn't just about a size/space thing, well, let's talk. And if the goal is less room intrusion then I think the goal should be a change in speaker placement, not size specifically. There are many speakers that can be parked against a wall and sound amazing.
Title: Re: Thinking About Something Completely Different...
Post by: rollo on January 12, 2021, 11:03:09 AM
  Ones room determines what speaker. Speaker placement is crucial to good sound. If using an "L" shaped or space where there is no corresponding wall issues arise. The JBL A190 helps with that. Check them out. Not a dealer of JBL.

charles
Title: Re: Thinking About Something Completely Different...
Post by: Brap on January 23, 2021, 07:16:18 AM
James, As stated, glad you reinforced your decision on the Spatials considering their value to you and what you would get in selling. Its bittersweet since I'm a strong proponent of the Fritz BE's -- still amaze me and folks who listen look around for a sub - nowhere to be found!. Last detail is 2 panels from Audimute received yesterday to stop some reflections and I'm all set for some critical listening.