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Systemic Development => Multiple Personality Disorders => Optometry Equipment => Topic started by: evan1 on April 13, 2011, 03:00:08 PM

Title: Help me choose a streamer
Post by: evan1 on April 13, 2011, 03:00:08 PM
I'm only concerned with streaming Netflix right now and maybe Pandora . Right now I'm just using my granddaughters Wii to stream Netflix but when she is here on weekends I put it back in her bedroom .I don't want another Blu Ray player . I love the streaming idea so I want to choose between the Apple TV and Roku XDS. Same price but which do you think I will be better off with ?

Title: Re: Help me choose a streamer
Post by: etcarroll on April 13, 2011, 06:12:54 PM
Are you already an Apple fan? Do you have a iPhone/iPod Touch/iPad you can download the more robust controller app to versus the remote that comes with it? Does your TV have an hdmi port? If yes to all 3, get the Apple TV box.

Otherwise, Roku.
Title: Re: Help me choose a streamer
Post by: spudco on April 14, 2011, 04:37:20 AM
+1 on the AppleTV.  Just installed one 2 weeks ago and it is fine for netflix, photos/slide shows, internet radio.

It also recognizes "other" remote control codes.  I taught it to respond to a Yamaha receiver code set to use my Pronto.  Took a few seconds and works great.
Title: Re: Help me choose a streamer
Post by: djdube525 on April 14, 2011, 08:54:39 AM
The only downside that I could see with an AppleTV over a Roku was that Roku offers at least one model with 1080p... I believe AppleTV is just 720p.

If that matters to you anyway...

Dave
Title: Re: Help me choose a streamer
Post by: tmazz on April 14, 2011, 02:15:35 PM
The only downside that I could see with an AppleTV over a Roku was that Roku offers at least one model with 1080p... I believe AppleTV is just 720p.

If that matters to you anyway...

Dave

I think the 720 vs 1080 decision should be driven by basically two things.

1) how big of a screen will you be playing this on? of the screen is 40: or less then 720 could be on the table. At 42" I would start to worry a bit and over 42" I wouldtry to stick with 1080p. Just one man's opinion YMMV.

and

2) What are your other sources? If you have a large screen and a bluray player that you us regularly, the lower resolution of a 720p stream will become quickly noticeable. And while 720p in and of itself is not really that bad, if your frame of reference is the high res output of a bluray watching a 720p stream could possibly become irritating.

Of course one other thing to be concerned with is whether or not your internet connection has the bandwidth to cleanly stream at 1080p. Because no matter how good the picture is, if the stream is constantly pausing because the buffer emptied out, you will tire of it in a hurry.
Title: Re: Help me choose a streamer
Post by: bpape on April 14, 2011, 02:22:23 PM
IMO, it also depends on the native resolution of the screen coupled with how good the scaling solution is in the screen.  If it's a native 720 set, then stay with 720. If it's 1080 and has a decent scaler, then the 720 could be OK but the 1080 will still negate the need for conversion.

Bryan
Title: Re: Help me choose a streamer
Post by: evan1 on April 14, 2011, 02:27:46 PM
I have a 50 inch Samsung plasma and it's only 720p. I think that is the highest Netflix streams at this time.
Title: Re: Help me choose a streamer
Post by: tmazz on April 14, 2011, 10:36:06 PM
I have a 50 inch Samsung plasma and it's only 720p. I think that is the highest Netflix streams at this time.

If your TV ans Netflix both top out at 720 then whether a streamer goes to 1080 is not really something you need to worry about right now.
Title: Re: Help me choose a streamer
Post by: djdube525 on April 15, 2011, 10:48:31 AM
It looks like Netflix can do 1080p based on this (http://www.engadget.com/2010/10/14/netflix-on-ps3-goes-disc-free-gets-1080i-streaming-and-5-1-surr/)...

Which does bring to mind... the PS3 is not a bad streamer/blu-ray combo.

Title: Re: Help me choose a streamer
Post by: evan1 on April 15, 2011, 01:56:10 PM
It looks like Netflix can do 1080p based on this (http://www.engadget.com/2010/10/14/netflix-on-ps3-goes-disc-free-gets-1080i-streaming-and-5-1-surr/)...

Which does bring to mind... the PS3 is not a bad streamer/blu-ray combo.



But my TV will not
Title: Re: Help me choose a streamer
Post by: djdube525 on April 15, 2011, 03:19:42 PM
Well... that is something you could rectify.  :thumb:
Title: Re: Help me choose a streamer
Post by: evan1 on April 15, 2011, 03:33:27 PM
Well... that is something you could rectify.  :thumb:


:nono:
Title: Re: Help me choose a streamer
Post by: tmazz on April 15, 2011, 04:57:05 PM
Well... that is something you could rectify.  :thumb:

Video Nervosa?  #-o
Title: Re: Help me choose a streamer
Post by: evan1 on April 15, 2011, 11:33:36 PM
Well... that is something you could rectify.  :thumb:

Video Nervosa?  #-o

Nah. Did the HT thing years ago but it was won over by Audio Nervosa.
Title: Re: Help me choose a streamer
Post by: tmazz on April 16, 2011, 06:30:21 AM
Well... that is something you could rectify.  :thumb:

Video Nervosa?  #-o

Nah. Did the HT thing years ago but it was won over by Audio Nervosa.

My kinda guy!  :thumb:
Title: Re: Help me choose a streamer
Post by: Carlman on January 29, 2013, 09:32:15 AM
OK, I'm rising this post up from the depths because I'm trying to do video streaming in my HT room.  I have a PS3 (older version) that has a faulty network card.  It cannot connect above about 6mbps.  It cannot use an ethernet connection either.  It simply will not work... I've tried everything. My partner in IT that is super technical and knows PS3's intimately could not get it to work on ethernet.

So, I'm on wifi and it usually finds itself at 2-4mbps.  Any other laptop on wireless gets 20mbps.  So, I get a buffering problem trying to watch movies.  (BTW, I have all new, high quality networking equipment)  The PS3 otherwise works flawlessly and I have a keyboard, remote, and extra controller invested.

I can either replace the PS3 with a new one and check to make sure the network connection is good.... OR... get a ROKU or other good streaming player.  I like the idea of the ROKU.

I don't want to spend hours learning and configuring just to watch movies on occasion.  I'd watch more if I didn't have to wait so long.  The Apple TV is interesting too...

Originally I was thinking of getting a Blu-ray with the streaming but I haven't seen anything as easy or useful as the ROKU.

Any thoughts or opinions about my situation are appreciated.
Title: Re: Help me choose a streamer
Post by: richidoo on January 29, 2013, 10:02:42 AM
Factory reset the PS3? Supposedly your user data will not be erased, but network passwords might be erased.

Did you try connecting directly to internet modem, bypass the router?

Try connecting ethernet to another network, maybe directly to a PC or another networking device than you are using now.
Title: Re: Help me choose a streamer
Post by: Carlman on January 30, 2013, 07:35:36 AM
Rich,
I've tried all that. My ps3 has a faulty network card. I even plugged the same Ethernet cable into my laptop and immediately got an ip and fast Internet speed.
Title: Re: Help me choose a streamer
Post by: hometheaterdoc on January 30, 2013, 07:43:51 AM
use the PC in the room already?  or swap to another PC that can support what you want?

what exactly do you mean by streaming?  using one of the built in services like netflix or using it as a media player for files you have stored on network?  you tube??

I've avoided the little media boxes because they usually have weird copy protections in place that cause issues or they don't have enough horsepower to stream a BD across the network in full 1080P....

I've got a few options here at my place depending on what you're trying to do...
Title: Re: Help me choose a streamer
Post by: Carlman on January 30, 2013, 08:41:58 AM
Mainly I want to watch Amazon Prime videos without waiting for it to buffer multiple times... on HD.  Non-HD still stops to buffer so it's sort of a pain regardless.  I also need it to be easy.  I turn it on and start watching.. not, figure out how to set it up for a week, then have it work sometimes, then flake out, then need updates before I can use it... etc... The PS3 needs an update every 3rd time I watch... annoying.

The Roku box comes with a bunch of preset 'channels' and I can use it kind of like a TV cable box.. but fed by the internet.

I would sign up for Hulu plus also.  I don't care for Netflix... Amazon Prime offers about the same amount of crappy movies but for less money. (last I checked)

Oh, I want to get rid of a PC in the room... I want no fans.  The PC I have is nice but needs more memory to run Windows 7..