AudioNervosa
Electro Stimulation Ward => Signals and Noise => Topic started by: Emil on January 09, 2023, 10:17:58 AM
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https://www.cruzefirstaudio.com/maestro
90 bucks. Why not?
Well I'll be damned. This made an audible difference for the better!
Quieter background. Tighter bass. Smoother, more musical presentation.
Power of suggestion? Dunno. I can remove it and reinstall the heavy duty looking Levitan outlet I had but that's a pain in the ass. I'm enjoying what I'm hearing even if it is.
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I can believe that it made an improvement, especially if the previous outlet / plug connection was loose.
Many favorable reports about Maestro outlets (subjective anecdotal evidence if you will) can be found on other forums.
Best of luck with them (or it if only one). :)
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Yes they can make a difference. PIAudio makes a VG one. Furutech though is my favorite. The VooDoo all copper is VG as well.
charles
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I also believe in the power of the outlet. PI Dave was good enough to send me one a while back and Tmazz summed it up nicely… I don’t know if I’d believe it if I hadn’t heard it with my own ears.
https://www.audionervosa.com/index.php?topic=8482.msg106736#msg106736
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Yes PIAudio one is VG. Similar to Rhodium. A neutral presentation. Furutech Gold over copper is warm, all Copper a tad bright. I have compared each of them to each other in a Digibuss. Furutech describes them on their site.
charles
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I use the Maestros here for the last5 years or so. Had the Furutech Rhodium models $180 each sold them
These were better to my liking. Depends on your system.
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Don't know what type of outlet I have but I know it came from Fremer so hopefully it's good
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Several years ago at AC, member Big Red Machine built a multi outlet device with multiple parallel high end outlets and sent it out on tour. They each clearly sounded different. The Maestro was my favorite.
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Several years ago at AC, member Big Red Machine built a multi outlet device with multiple parallel high end outlets and sent it out on tour. They each clearly sounded different. The Maestro was my favorite.
Hi S Clark. That reads like a really kewl idea! A question about that, if you don't mind. The multi-outlet device with parallel high-end outlets had to have been plugged into an outlet of some type. In your opinion is it possible (I imagine at least conceivable) that the outlet it was plugged into could somehow have influenced the characteristics of other outlets? This would be akin to plugging different amplifiers into the same preamplifier and then observing if any differences. No?
I've read nothing but good things about Maestro outlets. :thumb: But suppose the multi-outlet device with parallel high-end outlets was itself plugged into a Maestro outlet. You get (read) my point.
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I use the Maestros here for the last5 years or so. Had the Furutech Rhodium models $180 each sold them
These were better to my liking. Depends on your system.
Rhodium is a bitch to break in. Takes 500 hours to stop the hardness. Dave of PIAudio and I almost gave up after 300 hours. Very open big stage but Hi Fi sounding not musical IMHO.
charles
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Rhodium isn't for me. It's thin and weird sounding.
I like what Dave does, polishing.
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Rhodium isn't for me. It's thin and weird sounding.
I like what Dave does, polishing.
Has its advantages in transparency and openness but not musical.
charles
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Weren't Hubbell outlets popular years back?
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Oh boy I just found this on Agon
https://forum.audiogon.com/discussions/is-the-maestro-ac-outlet-basically-a-cryo-d-cooper-br20-found-at-lowes
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Weren't Hubbell outlets popular years back?
Still popular with me.
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Speaking as one of "poors" I am using cryoed Hubble outlets in a multiple outlet Felix and at the wall.
They don't sound bad to me. Back in the 80s I switched out the crap that was in the walls of the double wide I was living in at the time for commercial grade 20 amp Leviton Decora receptacles,[ie,still made in America at the time] and put Hubble cord caps
on all the equipment. My wife could hear the improvement from another room and asked me what I had changed. To say that she was somewhat surprised at the change for the better given the modest expenditure
would be an understatement.
I was following the recommendations of a friend of mine who had a milliohm
meter and had done the research to find the best sounding lowest resistance connection. At the time the sound quality seemed directly related to the connection resistance. This was long before more exotic
materials were used in receptacles and cord caps.
Scotty
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I have to get some rollers from lowes this afternoon, maybe I'll pick up a couple of those outlets while I'm there.
Anyone need any power cords or speaker cable while I'm there?
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Oh boy I just found this on Agon
https://forum.audiogon.com/discussions/is-the-maestro-ac-outlet-basically-a-cryo-d-cooper-br20-found-at-lowes
Even if true, its fairly priced considering
Or for the same price you can get these:
https://highend-electronics.com/products/synergistic-research-tesla-plex-se-receptacle
The Synergistic Research TESLA Plex SE is Synergistic Research's Quantum Tunneled duplex outlet. Quantum Tunneling is a process that changes the way a conductor works at the sub atomic level, impacting the entire TESLA Plex SE assembly. By applying a two million volt signal to each individual unit, at a specific pulse modulation and an ultra high frequency, for an exact duration of time, transforming the outlet at the molecular level. This process is also performed on all cables, from the Core series to the Galileo series. The “before and after” is startling, with a lower noise floor and improvements in inner detail, air, low frequency extension, and overall transparency.
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Everything can make a difference wether good or bad. It is fun trying as long as it not breaking the bank. Installing a dedicated sub panel off main panel made a huge difference. Wired with 8ga cryoed Romex. Siemens silver breakers. Dead quiet,more dynamic, more info. Have 4 dedicated lines using two. One for Digital one for analog. Each line is conditioned with a Gilbert Young XF 3000 power conditioner. The PIAudio has been removed as in comparison to XF PIAudio was forward and bright.
A dead quite background where the music is presented in an effortless fashion with a bigger soundstage and better separation between instruments. Well worth every penny spent.
charles
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No sub panel, just a dedicated 20amp line from the main panel to the room, in process of replacing consumer grade outlets with some Leviton Hospital Grade duplex outlets...
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Everything can make a difference wether good or bad. It is fun trying as long as it not breaking the bank. Installing a dedicated sub panel off main panel made a huge difference. Wired with 8ga cryoed Romex. Siemens silver breakers. Dead quiet,more dynamic, more info. Have 4 dedicated lines using two. One for Digital one for analog. Each line is conditioned with a Gilbert Young XF 3000 power conditioner. The PIAudio has been removed as in comparison to XF PIAudio was forward and bright.
A dead quite background where the music is presented in an effortless fashion with a bigger soundstage and better separation between instruments. Well worth every penny spent.
charles
True that everything *can* make a difference. I've been wanting to swing by your place for a while. It was put off due to your unfortunate flooding and then (simultaneous?) covid. That's behind us. Let's do it. I always bring gigabytes upon gigabytes of music, to gift. Yeah, when we last spoke on the phone the piano you had roaring in the background necessitated a pause in our conversation! :-P
No sub panel, just a dedicated 20amp line from the main panel to the room, in process of replacing consumer grade outlets with some Leviton Hospital Grade duplex outlets...
Me too. No sub-panel. Just a dedicated 20 amp line (except in my case in the dead of summer I need that outlet for A/C, so minimal A/V at those rare moments). I am not in process of replacing my consumer-grade outlet. I wish I could do so from a practical perspective. In my case, it involves a second outlet, which means more holes in the wall, etc. I'm fortunate in that the outlet I have currently albeit 50 years plus old is very good, as in extremely tight. Otherwise, I'd have no choice but to replace it. If I replaced it, would probably go with Maestro, but there are many options in the high-end audio outlet space. Trust me, when/if I win the lottery (and I'm in a life-changing drawing 365/24/7 for more than 30 years) and build a dedicated audio room from scratch, the power supply will certainly be on the "to-do" list. 8)
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I've had 2 Maestros for 7 years now. No complaints. I paid $85 back then so price hasn't really changed.