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AUDIO RACK SUGGESTIONS?
« on: February 07, 2021, 12:01:13 PM »
I am trying to decide on what new audio racks to buy. I need (want) to get 2 identical 4 shelf racks to use side by side. There are a couple of "musts" that have to be met.

 • One shelf on each rack needs to have 12" of height (space) between shelves.
 • One 12" height section needs to hold a 50 lb. amp.
 • Top shelf needs to accommodate an 18 x 24" butcher-block that my VPI Prime sits on. (approximately 50-55 lbs. total)

Lastly, I'd like to keep the budget to $300.00 maximum for each rack.

Thanks,
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Re: AUDIO RACK SUGGESTIONS?
« Reply #1 on: February 07, 2021, 12:14:24 PM »
I’ve got a Pangea (which I like a lot), but just measured and only 8-9” in between. I’ll keep looking ....
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Re: AUDIO RACK SUGGESTIONS?
« Reply #2 on: February 07, 2021, 12:35:20 PM »
Thanks, Nick. I'd like to know what everyone else is using (pix would be great) to see if it would work out for me.

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Re: AUDIO RACK SUGGESTIONS?
« Reply #3 on: February 07, 2021, 01:26:56 PM »
Bill,
I found the extended height pillars for the Pangea, but still only 10”... am getting closer :)
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Re: AUDIO RACK SUGGESTIONS?
« Reply #4 on: February 07, 2021, 02:43:11 PM »
I will offer a caveat- I use a Salamander rack- but one big drawback to me is the ‘infinitely adjustable shelves’- this means all four points of the shelf have to be level- which means a LOT of adjusting- at least on the model I have. If I ever buy another shelf, I’d go for one that uses a pin system of some sort for the four corners.
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Re: AUDIO RACK SUGGESTIONS?
« Reply #5 on: February 07, 2021, 03:36:39 PM »
Nick - Thanks for the research.

James - I agree with you on the adjustable style rack. I'd never have the patience for that. Lastly, thanks for the welcome back. Especially the link!  :lol:

Even though it puts me way over budget, I'm thinking of 2 of these...
http://www.vtimanufacturing.com/vti_product/bl404-13-audio-rack/
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Re: AUDIO RACK SUGGESTIONS?
« Reply #6 on: February 07, 2021, 04:48:30 PM »
I'd also like to know what is out there for the same money.

I'm using a Pangea Vulcan but I removed one tier so I only have 2 instead of 3. Until I get something better, these will have to do. I did not notice any improvement in sound with the cd player and amp on it.

The VTI you linked to looks like a Lovan. I used to have Lovan racks with spikes and some other damping material. Those racks really improved the sound.
They looked like these VTIs: https://www.standsandmounts.com/vtiblseriesaudiovideorackbl304ssilvercaps.aspx

Lovan's site is inaccessible now, I think they are out of business.

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Re: AUDIO RACK SUGGESTIONS?
« Reply #7 on: February 07, 2021, 05:38:54 PM »
Hi Malloy

I actually have a 4 shelf Lovan rack now. (Have had it for many years.) Great self-balancing 3-legged design. It's just that I now need more rack space. Thus my quest here.

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Re: AUDIO RACK SUGGESTIONS?
« Reply #8 on: February 07, 2021, 06:10:15 PM »
Hi Malloy

I actually have a 4 shelf Lovan rack now. (Have had it for many years.) Great self-balancing 3-legged design. It's just that I now need more rack space. Thus my quest here.

SN

Ah. Great! There seems to be a hole in the price tiers of audio racks. All I see are those that are budget, such as Monoprice, then those in the few hundred dollar range then prices jump up to a few thousand dollars. Aside from Salamander, VTI, and Pangea, the next tier up seems to be Solidsteel, but their 2 shelf rack is already $399  :cry: Atacama is already in the $1k range, :cry: Walker Audio goes up to mid 5 figures.  :shock:

Actually, I have a similar question, but for speaker stands. I'll create another thread. I'm looking for a good set of stands for around $300.

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Re: AUDIO RACK SUGGESTIONS?
« Reply #9 on: February 07, 2021, 06:43:50 PM »
May need to think outside of the box to meet all requirements and your price point.

With the advertised "winter" discount this one is only $14 over budget, with free shipping:

https://www.standsandmounts.com/vtiblseriesaudiovideorackbl304sssilverframe.aspx

Remove the bottom shelf......
Replace it with 3 stacks of hockey pucks, 3 pucks in each stack....
Assemble the rack (sans bottom shelf) on top of the hockey puck stacks.

Each puck is one inch thick, so stacking them gives 3 inches.  Glue them together if stability is needed.  Distance from floor to the first shelf (the one with 9 inch support) is now 12 inches.  Floor is effectively the first shelf, with 3 shelves above it = 4 shelf rack.

Meets all your requirements, with 2 more shelves in the closet should your needs grow in the future.

If not for the 12 inch requirement, this rack would work great:

https://www.monoprice.com/search/index?keyword=Monolith+by+Monoprice+4+Tier+Audio+Stand+XL

I love the solid brawny looks, and the price can't be beat.  I've seen it on sale for $125.  Much nicer than the Panagea...IMO of course.

« Last Edit: February 07, 2021, 07:13:35 PM by toobluvr »
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Re: AUDIO RACK SUGGESTIONS?
« Reply #10 on: February 07, 2021, 07:14:13 PM »
Hey toobluvr!

It's been a long, long while. Thanks for your ingenuity on this. I have a lot to think about with this, but that's good. Choices are good.

Stay well,
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Re: AUDIO RACK SUGGESTIONS?
« Reply #11 on: February 07, 2021, 07:17:18 PM »
Yep, it's been awhile Bill.  I now live in SC.  Hope you are well.    :thumb:

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Re: AUDIO RACK SUGGESTIONS?
« Reply #12 on: February 09, 2021, 07:59:30 AM »
This one meets all requirements and is well within budget:

https://www.audioadvisor.com/prodinfo.asp?number=PGKVTTX2

« Last Edit: February 09, 2021, 08:08:38 AM by toobluvr »
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Re: AUDIO RACK SUGGESTIONS?
« Reply #13 on: February 09, 2021, 08:50:52 AM »
Nice work, John. This may be a great choice. It's funny, because I looked on AA but didn't see this particular stand.

Edit.... Now I see it. It's in the clearance section!

SN
« Last Edit: February 09, 2021, 09:00:16 AM by StereoNut »
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Re: AUDIO RACK SUGGESTIONS?
« Reply #14 on: February 09, 2021, 09:36:47 AM »
Good price, very stable and easy to assemble  :thumb:
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