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Re: CARTRIDGE HUNT
« Reply #30 on: March 30, 2020, 12:32:43 PM »
  Grado has perked my interest with its Ref 3 and Aeon Cart. Movig Iron. I have a new phono stage, The Audio Hungary Qualition. Tubed with outboard SS power supply.  MM and MC boards.
  Either back to MC with Lyra OR MI with Grado.


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Re: CARTRIDGE HUNT
« Reply #31 on: March 30, 2020, 12:56:44 PM »
hi charlie!

i hope you're staying safe!

i guess you've decided sut's are ok after all?  that's what the a/h's optional mc card is - a sut...

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  Grado has perked my interest with its Ref 3 and Aeon Cart. Movig Iron. I have a new phono stage, The Audio Hungary Qualition. Tubed with outboard SS power supply.  MM and MC boards.
  Either back to MC with Lyra OR MI with Grado.


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Re: CARTRIDGE HUNT
« Reply #32 on: April 04, 2020, 01:08:05 PM »
   Nothing wrong with SUTs at all. just need the right one. The better ones are costly. Considering a MI as grado holds the patent on MC however does not sell them. Interesting.


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Re: CARTRIDGE HUNT
« Reply #33 on: April 17, 2020, 12:00:13 PM »
  Now the Grado Statement is on the short list. I need to get out of this F'n house already before I bankrupt myself with Audio. At least Lps will sound better.

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Re: CARTRIDGE HUNT
« Reply #34 on: May 20, 2020, 03:46:44 AM »
Now there is a Grado Statement 3 which I seriously considered. Its about half the price of the Koetsu at $3500. I am just coming from a Grado Reference 2 which totally blew away all of my expectations. It was a great cartridge. BTW, The Grados are neither mm nor mc but mi, moving iron. Joe Grado invented moving coil. The family owns the patents yet they build only mi carts. Soundsmith also builds only moving iron. Peter Lederman in one of the seminars on YouTube shows a photo the smallest coil of any mc cart next to the largest moving part of any mi cart they make. The mc has 5x more mass.
The whole thrust of cartridge evolution is toward less moving mass. I haven't heard them all of course but simply based on theory I believe mi is the pinnacle of current cartridge engineering. There is a reason Grado owns mc and collects royalties on every mc built within the reach of US patent law yet they build only mi carts. More than one reviewer has proclaimed the Grado Epoche to be the best cartridge ever made. The Statement 3 is the same design with less exotic parts.
Back to Soundsmith....My next cartridge is a Soundsmith Paua. It is similar to the Grado Statement 3 in that it is also third from the top, is the same design as the flagship with less exotic parts and is a similar price. $4K, currently on sale for $3K. The one thing Soundsmith offers that made the sale to me is very affordable rebuilds. <20% of cost of cart for cart to made like new. I won't be looking to upgrade in 3 or 4 years......or ever.





Ah is it nobler to choose MM or MC. The hunt is on. Looking at Grado Statement2 or Koetsu Urishi, Lyra Kleos or Kiseiki. Using an Audio Hungary tubed phono with both MM and MC cards. Arm is Kuzma 12" VTA adj. Any input ???


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Re: CARTRIDGE HUNT
« Reply #35 on: May 28, 2020, 08:24:50 AM »
  Good to know thank you.


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Re: CARTRIDGE HUNT
« Reply #36 on: May 29, 2020, 09:24:53 AM »
AT ART9 would please
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Re: CARTRIDGE HUNT
« Reply #37 on: June 03, 2020, 12:30:01 PM »
AT ART9 would please


  Thanks Bill, good to see you posting again.


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Re: CARTRIDGE HUNT
« Reply #38 on: June 07, 2020, 09:25:05 AM »
  The Hunt has ended. Had to wrestle the beast to the ground. The beast being my digital rig. The beast won. So no expensive new cart. Actually none at all. Maybe a Hana however LPs now are only for music I do not have on CD.


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