AudioNervosa
Systemic Development => Bipolar System Disorders => Topic started by: rollo on January 28, 2015, 08:19:46 AM
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So what tweak has given you the biggest ah ha moment ? Which one had the biggest bang for the buck ?
charles
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Definetly my shakti Stone. I can see how people crap on them though. They do nothing placed on any amps I've tried. Mind you they have all been toroidal supplies. They also need to be placed over vented gear too i have noticed. Where it shines and worth trying for sure are in and around vented dacs. The BDA 2 is a great dac for this. Although the dac isn't vented both BDA 1/2 have ample room inside the dac, where you can place the Shakti right in the dac and close the lid. :thumb:
This thing works good for sinking emf noise. EMF adds a shroud of glare around the entire soundstage. Its not as bad as you think but it adds more glare with out the stone. But it could be the straw that breaks the camel's back on a mediocore system. Lousy treble and emf glare can kill. There is way more air around the instruments now with Shakti.
You got to get the stone in the component (if you can), avoid putting it on top of the lid for it to work the best.
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I could have bet my house that you would be first to post. Cool, loving it.
One of my buddies likes it at the incoming elec. service and outboard power supplies.
charles
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In terms of "biggest bang for the buck", I would say Mapleshade Silclear contact treatment after a good cleaning makes an audible difference for less than $5 per use.
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Several over the last couple of years ...
- Buying a laser measuring device and using it to properly set up my speakers in the room. Now, I have Apogees, which need as precise a set-up as possible, to within 1/4-1/2 inch. This allowed me to accomplish that.
- Tacking a quartz crystal to the front of my phono cartridge - aka Black Diamond tweak from Walker audio. You simply have to try this to believe it.
- And this one we all know, but not all of us actually do it ... clean all your terminals and connections once a year. And while you are there make sure your cables are dressed as properly as possible.
- Room treatments - proper absorption and proper dispersion. Enough said.
- Turning my down-firing REL sub upside down so it is now up-firing (with a board placed on the up-facing feet) and re-balancing it's output. Much quicker, faster, better integration with the fast ribbon speakers.
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Good stuff Bob. It was published either by ASC tube Trap that stated a subs driver should be placed 20% of room height to center line of driver. Every down firing sub that is turned to face you or point upwards. Using the board on top is a good addition Bob.
How big is the crystal ? Just ordered the Synergystic PHT's to check out. It would be interesting to compare the two methods.
charles
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After reading Furutechs reasoning for resonance control for their Receptacles and plugs I tried damping the receptacle and utility box holding the receptacles.
Lined the box with Dynamat and installed a Herbies cable damper to wires.
It was affective as I can hear more info like a veil was lifted. Almost forgot to mention the incoming wire to the utility box was caulked with acoustic caulking at the entry point. Installed a strip of dynamat in between the box and receptacle screw in points.
charles
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Here's a link to my initial thread on this. The crystal I'm using is probably a bit oversized and could be smaller. It is unfortunate that it looks so much like a pimple, but it works.
http://www.audionervosa.com/index.php?topic=4811.0 (http://www.audionervosa.com/index.php?topic=4811.0)
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- And this one we all know, but not all of us actually do it ... clean all your terminals and connections once a year. And while you are there make sure your cables are dressed as properly as possible.
- Room treatments - proper absorption and proper dispersion. Enough said.
These two are definitely the biggest for me. But I'd advise cleaning terminals and connectors more often, particularly if they're un-plated copper, as many of mine are. These I find need to be cleaned every season.
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Unlike what Tommy of Digital Amp Company preaches in his commercially driven "Truth in Audio" thread on AC, whereas he calls tweeks bullshit ripoffs, I would personally call his thread BS in general. :roll:
In my mind, the only truth in audio is of a personal nature,,, there's no "one size fits all" audio. Plus I am a tweakfreak at heart, my system reeks of snake oil. :rofl:
Of the many many tweaks in my system, I would highlight Acoustic Revive's RR-888 Ultra Low-Frequency Pulse Generator. Not only does this Schumann Resonance widen the sound stage and sharpen video in my A/V system, I feel at ease when it's on. I feel there's a health benefit happening here. I actually own the original RR-77 with a KingRex power supply but I've read the 3rd generation RR-888 has 4 times the strength of the RR-77. Makes me wish I wasn't retired and unable to afford upgrading my tweaks. :duh :drool:
And that's my truth. :thumb:
Cheers,
Robin
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I used to wear a wristwatch that did the same thing. The funny part was when I brought it in for a replacement battery to the local watch repairman.
"What's all this shit in here?"
It ain't easy being crazy.
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I used to wear a wristwatch that did the same thing. The funny part was when I brought it in for a replacement battery to the local watch repairman.
"What's all this shit in here?"
It ain't easy being crazy.
Nooo,, it ain't. But it sure is a hellva lotta fun.
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Tommy:
Engineer>>Marketing Guru
:thumb: :rofl:
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Guys lets please stay on topic
charles
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Yes the Acoustic Revive products in general are very affective. I;m using several Salt Crystal lamps instead. not the same power of the AR generator however affective.
Yes Robin creates a very relaxing environment and cleans the air at the same time. noticed a more open sound with better focus and clarity how about you ?
charles
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Unlike what Tommy of Digital Amp Company preaches in his commercially driven "Truth in Audio" thread on AC, whereas he calls tweeks bullshit ripoffs, I would personally call his thread BS in general. :roll:
In my mind, the only truth in audio is of a personal nature,,, there's no "one size fits all" audio. Plus I am a tweakfreak at heart, my system reeks of snake oil. :rofl:
Of the many many tweaks in my system, I would highlight Acoustic Revive's RR-888 Ultra Low-Frequency Pulse Generator. Not only does this Schumann Resonance widen the sound stage and sharpen video in my A/V system, I feel at ease when it's on. I feel there's a health benefit happening here. I actually own the original RR-77 with a KingRex power supply but I've read the 3rd generation RR-888 has 4 times the strength of the RR-77. Makes me wish I wasn't retired and unable to afford upgrading my tweaks. :duh :drool:
And that's my truth. :thumb:
Cheers,
Robin
Its clear none of those clowns over on that thread listen to their own system. If they did that thread wouldn't exist.
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Be nice Guys. Misguided maybe but not Clowns. Maybe we need a " Truth" thread ???
We could call it " Personal Truth" Who's game ?
charles
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Yes the Acoustic Revive products in general are very affective. I;m using several Salt Crystal lamps instead. not the same power of the AR generator however affective.
Yes Robin creates a very relaxing environment and cleans the air at the same time. noticed a more open sound with better focus and clarity how about you ?
charles
I've read a lot about salt lamps and ion generators Charles and I do believe a relaxing healthy environment lends itself in audio/video enjoyment, and it definitely falls in the category of tweaks. How can it not?
Unfortunately I can only pack so much in a 11' x 17' x 7.3' room. I do use Blue Air Purifiers that have ion generators in them but other than that, the only thing I use for the actual listening environment (other than room treatments) is the Acoustic Revive RR-77. If I could do anything, I'd upgrade to the RR-888 but salt lamps might be more affordably obtainable at this time. Something to think about,,,,,,,,
Oh yeah, just like to say I do personally like Tommy and I do really like his digital amps when I've heard them paired with a tube preamp so to temper what I perceive to be a too sterile clarity for my personal liking. It's only some of his comments pertaining to tweaks in his thread I disagree with and that's actually the only reason I even brought up Truth In Audio. :D
Cheers,
Robin
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Hey Robin no problem, agree 100% with your reasoning. It is difficult for me to take any designer seriously if he or she bad mouths tweaks and stuff like cables. Drives me nuts actually.
Back to chill'n with my lamps. They seem to relax me very much as well look good.
Smells like the Ocean to me when in the room. As you say relaxing and primed for music. PRICELES.
charles
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If I could do anything, I'd upgrade to the RR-888 but salt lamps might be more affordably obtainable at this time. Something to think about,,,,,,,,
Robin, I have seen salt lamps at Home Goods for $20 - $35 a piece, depending on size. If they have a retail store in your area it might be worth checking out. In addition to whatever they do ion wise I happen to think they throw a nice warm light to listen by. I like to shut off all the lights in the room with the exception of my two salt lamps during late night listening session. I find the light they throw off very relaxing, and that is even before the salt crystal heats up enough to disperse any ions.
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Hey Robin no problem, agree 100% with your reasoning. It is difficult for me to take any designer seriously if he or she bad mouths tweaks and stuff like cables. Drives me nuts actually.
Back to chill'n with my lamps. They seem to relax me very much as well look good.
Smells like the Ocean to me when in the room. As you say relaxing and primed for music. PRICELES.
charles
Manufacturers like to dismiss all other components other than their own. Cables get beat on like the red-headed step sons of audio. They all like to beat on cabling. Speaker manufacturers like to take a licking to amp and source gear too. It is because they want the entire audio budget spent on their component. Speaker manufacturers are brutal for this.
If you have $5000 to spend, all speaker manufacturers will want you to spend $4k on speakers and $1k on everything else. So you can see how cabling spenditures get squeezed out. "You don't need cabling they all sound the same" - says most speaker manufacturers. All to get more money in their pocket.
They can all go eff themselves really hard with a long broom handle and jar of vaseline.
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If I could do anything, I'd upgrade to the RR-888 but salt lamps might be more affordably obtainable at this time. Something to think about,,,,,,,,
Robin, I have seen salt lamps at Home Goods for $20 - $35 a piece, depending on size. If they have a retail store in your area it might be worth checking out. In addition to whatever they do ion wise I happen to think they throw a nice warm light to listen by. I like to shut off all the lights in the room with the exception of my two salt lamps during late night listening session. I find the light they throw off very relaxing, and that is even before the salt crystal heats up enough to disperse any ions.
Sounds like these salt lamps would benefit from being on 24/7. 1 issue I do have with them is the color,,, I'm not a red fan. I like 6500k light for video viewing and natural bluish light bulbs in general. So the common red/yellowish salt lamps wouldn't be my cup of tea. A blue salt lamp on other hand would be the cats meow. I think I have some research to do. 8)
Cheers,
Robin
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(https://img0.etsystatic.com/010/0/7374139/il_570xN.429351138_jp5j.jpg)
Looks like I found just what I was looking for here, (https://www.etsy.com/transaction/1007029429) Natural Glacier Crystal, refreshing blue Himalayan salt lamp. I bought 2 lamps and will be placing them on top of my main Lorelei loudspeakers which are next to all my electronics. Let them negative ions interact with my electronics positive ions.
Thanks Charles & Tom for this enticing tweak! :thumb:
Cheers,
Robin
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Nice find! I have never seen a blue salt lamp before.
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Yes the Acoustic Revive products in general are very affective. I;m using several Salt Crystal lamps instead. not the same power of the AR generator however affective.
Yes Robin creates a very relaxing environment and cleans the air at the same time. noticed a more open sound with better focus and clarity how about you ?
charles
I've read a lot about salt lamps and ion generators Charles and I do believe a relaxing healthy environment lends itself in audio/video enjoyment, and it definitely falls in the category of tweaks. How can it not?
Oh yeah, just like to say I do personally like Tommy and I do really like his digital amps when I've heard them paired with a tube preamp so to temper what I perceive to be a too sterile clarity for my personal liking. It's only some of his comments pertaining to tweaks in his thread I disagree with and that's actually the only reason I even brought up Truth In Audio. :D
Cheers,
Robin
Did I say i didn't like clowns?.. Haha. I have no hard feelings but if they can't stand the heat then get out of the kitchen. My attitude is they are going to trample on my hobby then they can handle the Ad homs.
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Nice find! I have never seen a blue salt lamp before.
They sell red ones at Home Depot. i am going to go get one. Might even have one already since the Mrs Werd like's this kinda of stuff.
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Nice find! I have never seen a blue salt lamp before.
Actually, after placing my order for 2 lamps on Etsy, I went to their website and found a blue Aromatherapy salt lamp here (http://www.thespiceoflight.com/shop-2/aroma-blue/) that looks exactly like what I ordered but is $7.25 more and can be used with essential oils. Seeing how I use essential oils throughout my home, I emailed them in hopes of upgrading my order. I'm pretty psyched.
Cheers,
Robin
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Cool. Mine are a yellow in color. That blue one looks really nice.
charles
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Today I upgraded my 2 salt lamp order to the Blue Aromatherapy Glacier Crystal salt lamps. (https://www.etsy.com/listing/118230487/soothing-aromatherapy-oil-diffuser-oil?ref=shop_home_active_19) It's essentially the same lamp as the picture I posted above but this as a ceramic cup sculptured on top for essential oils. I happen to have some Vermont Maple Syrup essential oil that would work well in these lamps for Vermont's maple sap run in March. Sweet. :drool:
(https://img1.etsystatic.com/002/0/7374139/il_570xN.407626811_ab7b.jpg)
Cheers,
Robin
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Isn't that going to result in a syrupy sound?
(sorry, I couldn't resist)
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Isn't that going to result in a syrupy sound?
(sorry, I couldn't resist)
Good one Bob. :rofl:
charles
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Isn't that going to result in a syrupy sound?
(sorry, I couldn't resist)
Dave Elledge of PI Audio has assured me his UltraBuss can handle cleaning up the sticky syrup leaving only a sweet maple sound. Hey, it's a Vermont thing. :rofl:
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(https://img0.etsystatic.com/010/0/7374139/il_570xN.429351138_jp5j.jpg)
Looks like I found just what I was looking for here, (https://www.etsy.com/transaction/1007029429) Natural Glacier Crystal, refreshing blue Himalayan salt lamp. I bought 2 lamps and will be placing them on top of my main Lorelei loudspeakers which are next to all my electronics. Let them negative ions interact with my electronics positive ions.
Thanks Charles & Tom for this enticing tweak! :thumb:
Cheers,
Robin
Satfrat
So how long does it take before the air is ionized?
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Hard to say with lamps. I noticed a difference after one day being on 24/7. A commercial Ion generator works almost immediately. The lamps offer a low output.
A c
charles
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Hard to say with lamps. I noticed a difference after one day being on 24/7. A commercial Ion generator works almost immediately. The lamps offer a low output.
A c
charles
I'm not sure if is the output of the lamps as opposed to how the work. The salt crystal gives off ions when it heats up. I think you don't hear much of a difference before it has been on for a day simply because it takes quite a while for that little night light bulb to raise the temp of that big rock.
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Aha! I do have one. It isn't a rock but an ionize air filter, it oscilates too.
Got it going by my gear. I should have this anyways for dust filtering around my system. I like it so far for dusting i hope it makes a diff sonically. Good call on this one for preventative maintanance alone.
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Tom I use a 14W bulb not the 4W night lite ones. Heats up pretty good.
Werd you should hear a more open sound and better defined imaging.
charles
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Tom I use a 14W bulb not the 4W night lite ones. Heats up pretty good.
Werd you should hear a more open sound and better defined imaging.
charles
Even with a 14w bulb it will take a good amount of time to change the temp of the crystal through and through.
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(https://img0.etsystatic.com/010/0/7374139/il_570xN.429351138_jp5j.jpg)
Looks like I found just what I was looking for here, (https://www.etsy.com/transaction/1007029429) Natural Glacier Crystal, refreshing blue Himalayan salt lamp. I bought 2 lamps and will be placing them on top of my main Lorelei loudspeakers which are next to all my electronics. Let them negative ions interact with my electronics positive ions.
Thanks Charles & Tom for this enticing tweak! :thumb:
Cheers,
Robin
Satfrat
So how long does it take before the air is ionized?
I think it takes about a decade,,,, maybe 2. :rofl: These blue glacier salt lamps use a blue colored bulb. Unlike Charles lamps, it take a special type salt rock lacking in minerals that will allow colored bulbs to shine through it. Even then, these lamps use a 25 watt bulb, both for the light to shine through and to give off enough heat for the essential oil diffuser.
Science says these salt lamps won't ionize crap. But owners feel otherwise. I think that in itself qualifies salt lamps as a bonafide audiophile tweak. =3o :rofl:
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This is a link to a device like the Acoustic Revive RR777 that Topround and I purchased a few years back for only 165.00.
http://new.audiogon.com/listings/sw1-rr-77-schumann-resonance-rr77-rr-77--7
It doesn't look like it is sold anymore
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This is a link to a device like the Acoustic Revive RR777 that Topround and I purchased a few years back for only 165.00.
http://new.audiogon.com/listings/sw1-rr-77-schumann-resonance-rr77-rr-77--7
It doesn't look like it is sold anymore
Evan, while that device might be similar to the RR-77, it is nothing like the RR-777 which is said to be 4 times stronger than it's predecessor. And the RR-888 is said to be a step above that Evan.
Cheers,
Robin
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Typo Robin rr77.
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The $165 one is equal to the first offering by AR. Since as Arafat has stated is 100% correct. The originals are affective. We found two worked wonders. One placed by components , one at rear of room.
I think our resident professor Richidoo needs to build one on the cheap. Go get em Richidoo.
charles
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Since as Arafat has stated is 100% correct
Its about the only thing Arafat and Yitzak Rabin could agree on :rofl:
I crack myself up sometimes.......
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No new age technology for me, been there done that.
My favorite tweak is a good night sleep and a belly full of vegetables. Mind is the most important component in any audio system, but also the least understood and most neglected.
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No new age technology for me, been there done that.
My favorite tweak is a good night sleep and a belly full of vegetables. Mind is the most important component in any audio system, but also the least understood and most neglected.
... and a nice glass of wine couldn't hurt. ;)
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Rich, speaking of conditioning your mind for a listening session, have you ever seen the instruction manual for the Moscode 600? It contains a whole section on what Harvey Rosenberg considered the proper way to prepare yourself for listening to the amp for the first time. Ol' Gizmo may have been a bit of a kook, but underneath his tongue in cheek humor he just may have been on the right track.
I have attached a pdf copy of that section of the manual for your amusement.
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Is that the one when he puts on a silk robe and all that?
(http://www.meta-gizmo.net/images/flasher.gif)
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Is that the one when he puts on a silk robe and all that?
(http://www.meta-gizmo.net/images/flasher.gif)
That's the one. Sorry I forgot to attach the file. Here it is.
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CooL!
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This is a link to a device like the Acoustic Revive RR777 that Topround and I purchased a few years back for only 165.00.
http://new.audiogon.com/listings/sw1-rr-77-schumann-resonance-rr77-rr-77--7
It doesn't look like it is sold anymore
Evan,
Here is a link to a similar device currently being listed on eBay:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Schumann-Resonator-Chartres-audiophile-tweak-with-Enclosure-Case-/251518984613?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3a8fb321a5
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(https://img0.etsystatic.com/010/0/7374139/il_570xN.429351138_jp5j.jpg)
Looks like I found just what I was looking for here, (https://www.etsy.com/transaction/1007029429) Natural Glacier Crystal, refreshing blue Himalayan salt lamp. I bought 2 lamps and will be placing them on top of my main Lorelei loudspeakers which are next to all my electronics. Let them negative ions interact with my electronics positive ions.
Thanks Charles & Tom for this enticing tweak! :thumb:
Cheers,
Robin
Satfrat
So how long does it take before the air is ionized?
I received my 2 Blue Aromatherapy Himalayan salt lamps yesterday, have them sitting on top of my main Odyssey Lorelei's with my Panny plasma tv in between and boy do I love these lamps with their 25 watt blue bulbs! They really seem to make the plasma colors pop and I'm really digging the Vermont Maple Syrup fragrance from them. Interestingly, my neighbor was tapping my maple trees the same day I got the lamps.
Oh Emil, I was told to keep the lamps on 24/7 to maximise the lamp's ionization as it takes quite a while for these lamps to completely warm up internally. Keeping them on 24/7 was pretty much a given anywho. I also had to use some "audiophile" rubber pads underneath these lamps as they do get quite hot at the lamp's open bottom, not good for veneer. Just simple 1/4" thick rubber but it's audiophile grade cuz I'm using it. :rofl:
I love the blue glow of these lamps so much hat I'm considering getting 2 more for my rear Lorelei loudspeakers but with dimmers so they don't wash out the TV (already tried them there).
Just about all my rack's components have blue LED's and my 2 Butler tube amps shine blue tubes so these lamps fit right in with my room's ambiance. Makes me feel real cozy inside,,,, maybe it's all them ion's running amok? ;)
Cheers,
Robin
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Gee, I wonder what happens if you fill their reservoir with weed instead of maple syrup?
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Gee, I wonder what happens if you fill their reservoir with weed instead of maple syrup?
It would probably dry out the essential thc oils the & ruin it,,, and that would be a waste. But hash oil??? That has my mind reeling,,,, if my mind serves me correctly. :mrgreen:
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Gee, I wonder what happens if you fill their reservoir with weed instead of maple syrup?
I would think something to do with large bags of Fritos..... :rofl:
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Hi All,
Though I would share the results of a friends advice on improving my system on the cheap.
I invited a friend of mine up for an evening of listening to music.
Igor Kuznetsoff runs a small audiophile business here in NJ called “K Works”
He offers many audiophile goodies, cables, cords, interconnect, power conditioners, headphone amps, electronics mods, and many others. All reasonably priced and very effective.
Igor does not have a web site but here is a dealer of his http://brilliantzenaudio.com/
Upon hearing my latest speaker the GTA 2.5 , Igor had some advice on improving my system, he always does…hey it’s what he does !
I must admit I had not put much effort into my system. No tweaks at all, just hook up and go.
On Igor's advice, a run down to Sports Authority yielded a dozen racquetballs.
On his instruction I strategically placed them under my amp and preamp and CD player.
The amp and preamp benefited from this tweak. The CD player was not fond of the ball tweak, and responded better to Maple board and spikes under compression of the CD chassis between the 2 shelves of my component rack. Sounds weird but it works. (see pics) but I am still experimenting with this part of the tweak.
The difference in the speaker’s presentation is not subtle, it sounds like I upgraded to much more expensive equipment. Noise floor has been significantly reduced, resulting in greater transparency and solidity of images as well as soundstage width depth and height. The presentation holds together no matter how high the dynamic swing or spls call for. The speaker tracks micro and macro dynamics even better.
Everything is just "more there" with less artifacts riding along with the signal.
While it all looks like a kludge, it works sonically. You can pay a bundle for audiophile approved devices, but this is dirt cheap ($12.99/dozen balls) and yields great results. I will be building a nice maple rack (similar to below pic) and nice hardwood ball holders to visually compliment the setup.
Greg
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Hello Greg from GT
I did the squash ball thing. Cut them in half. Didn't really do the trick. Kind of squashed the prat. You say the CD player doesn't like it. That should tell you something. I think the Bryston CD player tells the whole story. If it doesn't work under the source it basically won't work anywhere imo.
I had that CD player and it's fabulous, I also had the bda1 and own the bda2. What Bryston source gear likes is aluminum. Better than wood imo. Get that CD player on a nice aluminum shelf or sit it on top of component that has an aluminum chassis. And open it up and loosen the scew holding down the transfomer and iec connect. Loosen all screws holding down the pcb boards. It will open that CD player right up.
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Tennis balls as well do the trick. A big fan of of Pon-tunes under CDP. Similar to roller blocks using tested and measured results.
Using Arcicci Airheads for amps which sit on Pon-tunes. Air heads sit on Ebony cones. All components using Pon-tunes either sitting on Maple or Plexiglass resting on steel stands which are grounded.
Greg build a wood box to hold balls then put as many in that fit. Use a plinth atop balls and be happy.
Greg glad to hear you have come around to trying these tweaks. You drove me nuts when we were setting up the system for Capitol Audiofest. They can be very affective as you just found out.
Hooray !!
charles
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Ok I got to ask. What are pon-tunes?
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They are the grey cylinders under this boat that help it to float.
(http://www.logoboat.com/IMAGES%20500/11%20KIT%20C%20500.JPG)
To use them effectively in an audio system, first you need to fill your pool with water and eject the kids. Make a raft of several of these. Put your CD player on the raft (get Pete to build you a long waterproof power cord and set of interconnects). Don't let anyone jump into the pool while playing music.
They are very effective I've found.
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Bob's post above is just too funny. This is what I found about the Pon Tunes Charles mentions.
http://www.arionaudio.com/products/PonTunesDataWeb.pdf
(http://www.enjoythemusic.com/magazine/equipment/0810/pon_tunes.jpg)
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Or Charles, if you are into spending money, you can go to Ginko and buy one of their boxes loaded with balls and a plinth on top. Then go to Herbie's site and buy his balls, which are supposedly superior to Ginko's.
Or not.
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Or do what I did.
- get a butcher block cutting board at Ikea @ $10
- get 2 sets of squash balls @ $5 for 3 balls
Wallah - home made Ginko Cloud for less than $20
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They are the grey cylinders under this boat that help it to float.
(http://www.logoboat.com/IMAGES%20500/11%20KIT%20C%20500.JPG)
To use them effectively in an audio system, first you need to fill your pool with water and eject the kids. Make a raft of several of these. Put your CD player on the raft (get Pete to build you a long waterproof power cord and set of interconnects). Don't let anyone jump into the pool while playing music.
They are very effective I've found.
Don't forget the power conditioner
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They are the grey cylinders under this boat that help it to float.
(http://www.logoboat.com/IMAGES%20500/11%20KIT%20C%20500.JPG)
To use them effectively in an audio system, first you need to fill your pool with water and eject the kids. Make a raft of several of these. Put your CD player on the raft (get Pete to build you a long waterproof power cord and set of interconnects). Don't let anyone jump into the pool while playing music.
They are very effective I've found.
I am going to get one with a shitter on it so I can drink
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Leather or Cork turntable mat.
Turntable weight.
Unfortunately my speakers have to sit on the same shelf as the rest of my gear (I know....it blows....just no room for stands) so I had to come up with some isolation on-the-shelf stands for them. I got a couple of 8x8 cutting boards on Amazon and bought some of those IsolateIt! Sorbothane 1.5 inch nubs (also on Amazon) and attached them in a triangle to the bottom of the boards. Used some bluetack to keep the speakers in place and add additional vibration absortion. HUGE. Bass tightened, more clarity in the mids and highs, more precise soundstage. Gonna do the same thing for the turntable.
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Leather or Cork turntable mat.
Turntable weight.
Unfortunately my speakers have to sit on the same shelf as the rest of my gear (I know....it blows....just no room for stands) so I had to come up with some isolation on-the-shelf stands for them. I got a couple of 8x8 cutting boards on Amazon and bought some of those IsolateIt! Sorbothane 1.5 inch nubs (also on Amazon) and attached them in a triangle to the bottom of the boards. Used some bluetack to keep the speakers in place and add additional vibration absortion. HUGE. Bass tightened, more clarity in the mids and highs, more precise soundstage. Gonna do the same thing for the turntable.
:pics?:
Sorry, IPL. I just couldn't help myself!
SN
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Of the many many tweaks in my system, I would highlight Acoustic Revive's RR-888 Ultra Low-Frequency Pulse Generator. Not only does this Schumann Resonance widen the sound stage and sharpen video in my A/V system, I feel at ease when it's on. I feel there's a health benefit happening here. I actually own the original RR-77 with a KingRex power supply but I've read the 3rd generation RR-888 has 4 times the strength of the RR-77. Makes me wish I wasn't retired and unable to afford upgrading my tweaks. :duh :drool:
And that's my truth. :thumb:
Cheers,
Robin
Gotta give the Acoustic Revive RR-888 another shoutout as I just picked up a used one from David Weinhart, got it yesterday and this little thing is blowing my mind! My soundstage depth has grown exponentially, enough so that I'd find it impossible that anyone wouldn't be able to pick up it's presence. That wasn't the case with the RR-77 that I took to a NY Rave, Toprounds I think, and there were a number of guys who couldn't tell the difference.
I now have 2 Ultra Low-Frequency Pulse Generator's, 1 being 4 times more powerful than the other and their effects are as clear as black & white. They have even intensified the clarity of my ISF calibrated Panny ST60 plasma that has a Darbee Darblet with an upgraded power supply connected to it. With the upgraded power supply, I was able to boost it processing from 60% to 90%. But now with the RR-888 added, the picture sharpen up to the point that the picture now looked over processed so I had to lower the Darbee back to 60%. But the true benefit is the 3D sound stage depth that's realized,,, a sweet thing indeed ( or as Charles/Rollo would say, "oh my". :thumb:
Oh, and my second set of Blue Aromatherapy salt lamps w/dimmer switches (so they don't wash out my plasma) are in the mail for the tops of my rear channel Odyssey Lorelei's. As much as I love the 2 blue salt lamps that grace the top of my main Lorelei's, I'm really looking forward to having 4 salt lamps in my 1' x 17' x 7' room. The fact that the days are getting longer and the nights shorts truly sucks for this consument nightowl. But regardless, the lamps & RR's will be on 24/7 til the day I die.
For stereonut's wellbeing;
(http://www.acoustic-revive.com/common/images/img_rr888.jpg)
Cheers,
Robin
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Thanks, Robin! Although, my "pix comment" was pointed more towards IPL's home-brew speaker isolation stands that can't be found on a web search the way a manufactured consumer piece like your RR-888 can. Nonetheless, I enjoyed your pic! :thumb:
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Experimentation update;
I've been playing around with placement, seeing how the RR-888 came with instructions, something that was missing with the original RR-77. From the internet, I knew these units needed to be placed at least 5 feet off the floor, don't sit them on top of components and don't plug them into the same outlets as the audio gear. Seeing how my 5' six shelf Sanus rack sits behind my left loudspeaker, I built up a perch on the top shelf which placed the RR-77 over 6' high and above all my audio gear. This placement worked great of my RR-77. Well the first thing I did when getting the RR-888 was replace the RR-77 with it as I'm also using a Kingrex power supply there. Well the results for the audio were staggering and the video, well I already went through that. But now I'm reading the instructions and underlined is the comment to keep the RR-888 at least 3 feet away from audio components while mine sits directly above all my A/V gear. I had placed the RR-77 on the wall behind my chair. So I switched the 2 boxes,,, got that more powerful RR-888 on the opposite end of the room from my gear and there was no difference in the increased soundstage depth BUT the video was a different ballgame. I ended up boosting the Darbee processing back to 90% and not only does the picture not look over processed, the overall sharpness has never looked better, huge improvement.
So from this, I'm building 2 shelves near the ceiling on opposite walls and well away from my system. While it was well known that you don't set these boxes on top of an audio component, this is the first time I've read anything stating to keep them at least 3 feet away from components. Nice to know..... :D
Cheers,
Robin
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Or Charles, if you are into spending money, you can go to Ginko and buy one of their boxes loaded with balls and a plinth on top. Then go to Herbie's site and buy his balls, which are supposedly superior to Ginko's.
Or not.
Now that's balls :rofl:. No need tennis balls or just those blue handballs are god enough.
The Pon-Tunes came as an integral part of my amp design. Had no clue as what the Pon-Tunes were. Tried more and to my surprise a good thing. They will open up the sound stage with more clarity and focus.
No matter what you use the goal is to remove and dissipate vibration by draining such. Isolating by decoupling and draining is the whole deal.
If the material "Ultum" was more affordable used as a plinth it has the fasted dissipation factor of all materials.
charles
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A little tough to see the feet but you get the idea. Vibrations are virtually eliminated from the record shelf.
(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/22006327/IMAG2449_1.jpg)
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BTW IPL welcome aboard nice to have you here.
charles
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THANKS 8) Happy to be aboard. Seems like a good little group
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Thanks, IPL! :thumb:
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Or do what I did.
- get a butcher block cutting board at Ikea @ $10
- get 2 sets of squash balls @ $5 for 3 balls
Wallah - home made Ginko Cloud for less than $20
Not quite as the squash balls have well no balls. Use those blue handballs instead. do not forget the infamous tennis balls either.
Your balls may vary and sound different as well.
charles
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Anybody ever try air bubbles as a platform?
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I can't I just can't :duh :duh :duh
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Spit it out I wanna hear it :rofl:
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Just wandering where my mouse-pads are in the tour?
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Anybody ever try air bubbles as a platform?
Do you mean putting an inflated innertube under a wooden platform? I have read about this but with turntables.
(http://photos.imageevent.com/puma_cat/fujif31andf20photos/Rega%20Platforms-1.jpg)
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Just wandering where my mouse-pads are in the tour?
Glad to hear people did the mousepads tweak too. I have 2 sets of 20" mouse pads under my Oppo BDP-83SE and I think it is fine tweak. I never did an A/B with & without it but it was an inexpensive tweak.
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The air bladders work. Using Arcicci Airheads under the amps. Bigger stage, and clarity to boot. For TT an iffy affair . Getting the TT level is a bitch. Then keeping the tube inflated is worse.
IMO the ole sand box with wood plinth is still King. The box made of wood and decoulped from the rack is key. If not sand filled then either tennis balls or the blue rubber hand balls. fit as many as you can in the box.
Jim your handy make a box and try it.
charles
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When to Tweak is the Question. Remove every tweak you have done and listen. Then starting with the source start over one at a time. Listen to each tweak reinserted.
Start with the power cords first. When all gear has the upgraded PC give it a serious listen. Then add footers starting again with front end. Then add any other tweaks like weights, plinth material,cable lifters,
You may learn that a tweak or two was unwarranted or dead on. Have fun and learn more about your system. have fun.
charles
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So after several cocktails I'm looking at this box of "Spyder" golf cleats. Hmmmm they might be good as footers.
The box opens take four out and put under CDP . Holy footers Batman. Not groundbreaking but affective in opening up the sound.
The next day with no cocktails conformation. They work and well. Go figure.
charles
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Charlie, Now you have to try other brands of cleats, especially the old school metal (brass) cleats. Golf balls are next? Tees?
Dramatic ends to both PGA & LPGA tournaments. Furyk comes from behind on the back 9, and S Y Kim holes out from the fairway for an eagle victory in sudden death playoff after chipping in from the fringe to tie on 18.
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Great finishes for sure. The cleat used is unique in that it spreads under weight. That is what intrigued me to try.
Harmonix sells a footer very similar looking for big bucks which I was surprised to see after the cleat discovery.
I need to get out more.
charles