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Systemic Development => Bipolar System Disorders => Topic started by: mca on March 04, 2007, 09:23:53 AM

Title: Our systems
Post by: mca on March 04, 2007, 09:23:53 AM
Since this is a new site, and we don't have a way of posting our systems yet, I thought it might be nice to post a bit of info about them. List of equipment, what you like and don't like about it and things you might like to change in the future.
Title: Our systems
Post by: mca on March 04, 2007, 09:47:53 AM
My system is listed below. The SB3 just came back from Bolder with the latest round of upgrades. The power supply now has a Bybee in it and the SB3 has a new pair of gold Bybees just added.

I got a great deal on an Equitech Q1.5 from Chip Stern and it is now in the system as of last week. It replaces a Powervar unit I had that always put off a low level buzz. I need to do some more listening to get a handle on what it is doing for the sound. One thing I know is it made a huge difference with my Panny plasma TV.

I like this system because it is so simple. No preamp, just the SB3 direct into the amp using it's internal volume. After using the SB3, I don't think that I could ever go back to a CD player again. There is always something new playing thanks to the internet radio feature.

My room has always been a problem though. It's a dedicated room, so I at least have the luxury of doing what I want with it. Right now I have it stuffed with GIK panels to try and fix a bass problem. I think it's overdone and the sound is a bit dead and un-involving right now.  I'm working with Brian to try and get things figured out and hopefully get things snapped back into shape.  (I should have the .pdf drawing to you today, Brian)
Title: Our systems
Post by: miklorsmith on March 04, 2007, 10:39:21 AM
Simple!?!?  Ha!  Where are you going to put all the expensive wires, vibration isolators and doodads?  There's a LOT of available holes to shovel your money into that you're not taking advantage of.  Think about your larger responsibility to the industry and rethink your priorities.  Then, let's have this discussion again.   :D
Title: Our systems
Post by: shep on March 04, 2007, 11:20:38 AM
I have the simplest :twisted: ! One cdp, two speakers, 6 wires, one amp with one input. No room treatment. Beat that!
Title: Our systems
Post by: WEEZ on March 04, 2007, 12:37:16 PM
I'll try to add it to my signature..and see if it works...

Sure enough.

 :oops: WEEZ (the computer dumbass)
Title: Our systems
Post by: Double Ugly on March 04, 2007, 01:21:05 PM
My System

Source - Modified Slim Devices Transporter (http://www.slimdevices.com/pi_transporter.html?)
Amplification - Butler Audio Monad monoblocks (http://www.butleraudio.com/esoteric.php)
Speakers - SP Technology Timepiece 2.1s (http://www.4sptech.com/version2/timepiece2_features.html) (I finalized my order for Revelations (http://www.4sptech.com/version2/revelation-mr1_features.html) today :D)
Interconnects - Stealth Audio Cables Indra (http://www.stealthaudiocables.com/products/indra/indra.html)
Speaker Cables - Gregg Straley's Reality Cables (http://www.realitycables.com/)
Power Cords - Black Sand Cable Silver Reference Mk.V (http://www.blacksandcable.com/specs.html) x 3
Tweaks - Audio Points (http://www.starsoundtechnologies.com/audiopoints.html), Sistrum SP-101 Platform (http://www.starsoundtechnologies.com/SinglePlatforms.HTML) (x 2 for amps), Micro-Bearing Conductive Steel Fill Material (http://www.starsoundtechnologies.com/micro.html), Porter Ports (http://cls.audiogon.com/cgi-bin/cls.pl?powrcond&1177878300) electrical outlets, 2 dedicated 20-Amp lines.

As for things I don't like about my system, I honestly can't think of much.  It's one of those you don't know what you don't have until you hear it kind of things.  As good as it is, I know the bass can be even better because I've *heard* better.  Fortunately for me, the "better" bass I heard came from a pair of SP Tech Revelations, so the order I finalized today should take care of that in spades!  :D

As for what I'd like to add, a pre-amp that doesn't detract from the open, natural sound I'm getting now.  Even better, I'd love to find a pre-amp that actually improves the presentation, but I'm not holding my breath.  If/when I do, I fear it will attack my bank account with a vengeance.  :(
Title: Our systems
Post by: richidoo on March 04, 2007, 07:52:53 PM
My system is still evolving since I started with it a year ago, I guess it never stops, that is the essence of the hobby. But it alreadt sounds very good. Powerful, clear and very emotional and musical. Problems with shouting hornlike distortion in the large room are being fixed by 8th Nerve Adapts, just started installing those today. Seems better already.

Legacy Focus 2020
Cary SLI-80 tube integrated 70wpc with 6550 power tubes
Slim Squeezebox 3, with upgraded power supply by Power-One
Samsung HD-841 universal player
Sansui TU-717 Tuner, Radio Shack FM antenna on roof
Technics SL-Q2 turntable, Audiotechnica cartridge
Bellari tube phono preamp
Paul Speltz Anti-cables for speakers, jumpers and ICs
Paul Speltz Zeroformers, impedence matching autoformers
Standout Designs N70 all solid maple cabinet
Eighth Nerve Adapt acoustic treatments

LOVE IT!! I need a NOS DAC like AVA UltraDAC, and more anticables ICs. I would like to upgrade the turntable in time, to a Kuzma Stabi S. I will probably upgrade the amp too, as my thirst for power continues to grow especially with the room anomalies coming under control. Looking at VTL, ARC or Butler for amps with ARC Ref 3 pre. I might try to build a pair of Orion open baffle speakers for fun, but I have a hard time believing they will take down the mighty Focus in tonality, range and power, but I have an open mind and like to experiment. My 8yo son and I are building a pair of P101 monoblocks from Elliot Sound.

Thanks for reading about my system. I look forward to reading about your setup and getting ideas of things to try to improve mine further.
Rich
Title: Our systems
Post by: Carlman on March 05, 2007, 08:47:22 AM
My primary system is the 2-channel and consists of:

Piega C-5 Limited Speakers
McIntosh C220 Preamp
McIntosh MC402 Amp (2x400 watts)
Sources:
Scott Nixon USB Tube DAC
Audio PC using 2.4G Intel on an Asus Kv7m? I think mobo; in a Nexus case
Sony PS-X600 turntable with Dynavector 10x5 cart

Cabling:
Analysis Plus Oval 9 Digital IC
Reality IC's from Preamp to amp
DIY 8422 IC's from DAC to Preamp
Reality Speaker Cables
Black Sand Cable Silver Ref PC's on preamp and amp
BSC Chromium on everything else.

Other:
Running Springs Audio "Haley" Power Conditioner
Dedicated power line
My room is 11x13, full treated with rigid fiberglass bass traps, lined rear wall, treatment at all primary reflective surfaces.

My office system:
Piega TS3 speakers (very tiny)
Musical Fidelity X-150 integrated amp
Yamaha cheap sub
Squeezebox 3
No IC's at the moment, so no sound... had to borrow the 8422's to use in the main system... ;)

I'm quite pleased with the sound I've got but I do have some upgrades planned.  The preamp is still breaking in a little and I plan to roll some tubes through it.  The entire audio PC will be compared to a Black Sand Cable modified Transporter.  If the Transporter sounds as good as the PC for a transport, the PC will be moved out of the sound room... removing a slight hum from the equation.

Scott Nixon is working on a new DAC that I'm in line for when ready.... it'll be a month or 2 before it's ready, though.  If I use the transporter, I can't use the USB DAC... The new DAC has coax input and balanced outputs...  So, I'm thinking of using balanced throughout the entire chain... not sure yet.

-C
Title: Our systems
Post by: westcoastman on March 05, 2007, 09:30:25 AM
My system is a little more complex than Shep’s (not knocking Shep's) and from seeing the sophistication and devotion to some of the other systems I can see where Audio Nervosa fit’s in.

Components- Arcam Solo, Arcam DV78 DVD Player, SpeakerCraft SL 2, Mirage FRx-8S Sub, Grado SR-80 Headphones, Belkin PF30 Power Console, Motorola 6416 PVR, Sharp Aquos LC45D40 45” LCD.

Plannned upgrades… Black Sand Violet cables for the Arcam equipment and I still have not decided on Richard Gray’s RGPC 400 Pro to replace the Belkin PF30 power  console.
Title: Our systems
Post by: shep on March 05, 2007, 10:39:57 AM
I was being lazy :oops: Dutch TL's, Trends T-10 "Mardis", Marantz CDP-67 modded, Solid core spkr wires à la anti-wire, DH Labs ic's. I'm awaiting a new amp, the infamously badly built Little Dot T-100 (another "Mardis" re-creation). Likewise waiting for an opamp upgrade for cdp. I would like to here Grover's cables. Otherwise nothing planned. My Nervosa is plain to see :D
Title: Our systems
Post by: bpape on March 05, 2007, 10:54:25 AM
Currently have 1 good system doing double duty - moving toward 2 different systems for HT and Music.

Preamp - Theta CasaNova for HT, Korato KVP-20 for 2 channel
Amp - Odyssey Mono Extreme SE's
DVD - Modded Panny RP91 with SDI output
(for those interested, PJ is an NEC XG135 fed RGBHV from a Key Digital HD LEEZA Scaler shooting onto a 92" 1.85:1 Stewart Studiotek 130)
Music - SB2 with Boulder power supply - upcoming digital upgrades via Boulder
DAC - MHDT Labs Paradesia
Speakers - Dynaudio Contour 3.3's, Selah SSR's
Sub - ServoDrive ContraBass via Symetrix 551E Parametric
Cabling - DIY + Harmonic Tech Pro-9
Title: Our systems
Post by: eric the red on March 07, 2007, 12:11:33 AM
(everything purchased off Audiogon or AC):
Rega Apollo cdp
Antique Sound Lab AQ-1001DT tube integrated
Meadowlark Kestrel Hot Rods with Totem Beaks
Rega P3 with Incognito and Michell mods/Audio Technica 440MLa, Thorens Q-up
Graham Slee Amp2 SE with PSU1
PS Audio Duet power center
PS Audio  PCs
Signal Cable ICs/speaker wire


Am done for quite awhile as I really like the way recorded music sounds again on this rig. Am waaay back into listening to vinyl again. :beer:
Title: Frankenstein!
Post by: miklorsmith on March 07, 2007, 07:27:27 AM
Status quo:

Transport:  Modwright Music Hall or RWA SB3
Preamp:  TacT 2.2XP
DAC for Mains:  Lessloss 2004
Bass Amp:  Crown K2
Mains Amp:  RWA Signature 70 monos or Yamamoto A-08s
Speakers:  Zu Definition Pro
Digital IC:  Generic 75-ohm coax and Ack!
Analog IC:  Zu Varial
Speaker Cables:  Zu Ibis
Power Cables:  Various by Zu, Cardas, MIT
Room and Treatments:  26x17x9 basement room, acoustically ventilated, moderately treated
Rack:  Salamander

Plan/Transition:

Inguz Room Correction
Replace TacT with to-be-determined preamp
High-pass filter between mains and subs, to be determined
EQ for subs, analog parametric, dbx pro unit

Second System:

Source:  RWA SB3 or 1984 Technics CDP (year, not model #)
Integrated Amp:  RWA modified Teac Al-700P Tripath
Speakers:  VMPS 626r or Tannoy LR8 dual-concentric monitors
Room: 40' x 23', 9-foot ceilings, suspended wood floor, no dedicated room treatments
Cabling: various
Title: Our systems
Post by: Hantra on March 07, 2007, 07:45:38 PM
Hey Double, are you using a modded Squeezebox?

I've been playing with preamps too, and although the McIntosh C1000 does improve over the C2200, it's not enough.  I actually liked my system more with the 2200 than straight into the amps via the big balanced DAC with volume control.  But I am biased.  I still have an incredible level of respect and love for those Monads.  They are amazing.  

My system:

Piega C3 Limiteds
McIntosh C2200 - w/ LED kit and uber cryo'd tubes
McIntosh MC501 monoblock amps
PC with USB to I2S Nixon USBTD with upgraded power supply
Audience Au24 Speaker wire, jumpers, interconnects, and power cords
RSA Haley for the pre and DAC
My own balanced power frankenbox for the PC
Dedicated 20A lines with Wattgate 381's - One for each amp
Eighth Nerve Adapts
Title: Our systems
Post by: ipy on March 09, 2007, 11:44:23 AM
Source/Transport Slim Device Bolder Modified SB3 (http://cgim.audiogon.com/i/vs/i/f/1151095567.jpg)
SB3 Power Supply SB 3 Bolder PS Ultimate MKII (http://cgim.audiogon.com/i/vs/i/f/1171393623.jpg)
Music Storage Seagate HD (http://cgim.audiogon.com/i/vs/i/f/1152335566.jpg)
DAC DPA Enlightment (Modded) (http://cgim.audiogon.com/i/vs/i/f/1151179048.jpg)
Pre Amp Herron VSTP-2 (http://cgim.audiogon.com/i/vs/i/f/1156361340.jpg)
Power Amp Conrad Johnson Premier 350 (http://cgim.audiogon.com/i/vs/i/f/1160249290.jpg)
Speakers Focus Audio FS788 (http://cgim.audiogon.com/i/vs/i/f/1160304768.jpg)
Cables Cardas IC (http://www.cardas.com/images/products/golden-reference-interconnect.jpg), Cardas Speaker (http://www.cardas.com/images/products/golden-cross-speaker.jpg), JPS PC (http://www.jpslabs.com/images4/jpslabs_kaptovator.jpg),  BS PC (http://blacksandcable.com/images/silverref_large.jpg),  VH PC (http://www.vhaudio.com/images/flavor3.jpg)
Others Tweaks (http://cgim.audiogon.com/i/vs/i/f/1151208467.jpg),  More Tweaks (http://cgim.audiogon.com/i/vs/i/f/1173468893.jpg)
Things I like? Musical, Transparent, Life size.
Things I don't like? Not enough time spend listening to Music, Room
Title: Our systems
Post by: jbtrio on March 09, 2007, 04:23:21 PM
My System:
Source: Cary 303/300 CDP, various NOS tubes
Pre-amp: Pass Labs Aleph P
EQ: Rives Parc
Amp: Spectron Musician III
Speakers: Salk HT-3
Cables: Audioquest Volcano speaker cables
Crystal Cable Standard XLR to CDP
Audioquest Anaconda XLR from pre-amp to EQ and to amp
PC: TG audio silver,BSC REF.V,VH audio Flavor2& 4
14.5 ft. by 16 ft. dedicated listening room fully done up with various room
treatments
various isolation products
20 amp dedicated line
Audiophile APS Purepower 1050
Title: Our systems
Post by: Double Ugly on March 09, 2007, 06:20:10 PM
Quote from: "Hantra"
Hey Double, are you using a modded Squeezebox?
The only SB still in the house is in my 9-year old stepson's room.  His system is powered by a cheap (~$300), 150wpc receiver, but with the stock SB2 (+ BOLDER 'Basic' PS) and 'old' Timepiece 2.0s, he has the most kicking system of any kid on the block!  :lol:

I sold my über-modified SB and Ultimate BOLDER Cable power supply to purchase a Slim Devices Transporter that I had modified before taking delivery.  It sounds great, but I'm supposed to receive one or more that have the benefit of additional modifications.  If they ever show up, the comparisons should be interesting.



Quote from: "Hantra"
I still have an incredible level of respect and love for those Monads.  They are amazing.  

Every time I get pissed at BK - which happens about 2 out of 3 times I speak with him, so I don't call often  :roll: - I threaten to sell them.  In fact, I actually put 'em on the market a while back, and had them sold before the schmuck backed-out of a *GREAT* deal for him (stupid, stupid thing for him to do).  But I couldn't be happier with the way things turned out.  

Even if there's something better out there, I seriously doubt I could afford it.  I've heard quite a few high-dollar amps, but I haven't lusted for an amp since being introduced to the Monad.
Title: Our systems
Post by: lonewolfny42 on March 09, 2007, 08:44:02 PM
My system :

Source - Wollensak 8075 (http://www.8trackheaven.com/Images/wollsak.gif)

TT - BSR.. (http://www.vintagetechnology.com/ad_scans/stereo_bsr_table_1976.jpg)

Receiver - Pioneer SX-1010... (http://www.positive-feedback.com/Issue25/images/Tom%20Helton%20Room%20-%20Pioneer%201010.jpg)

Speakers - Fisher 2-way speakers (1970's)

Speaker Cables -  Monster Cable... (http://www.klipsch.com/images/1127/400x400.aspx)...its the best !

IC's - Radio Shack... (http://rsk.imageg.net/graphics/product_images/pRS1C-2265346w345.jpg)....works wonders.... :wink:

What a system....it rocks !!! And its paid for..................... :lol:
Title: Our systems
Post by: WEEZ on March 10, 2007, 04:59:51 AM
Hey Chris,

Are you still paying for your 'other' system(s)  :?:

 :beer:

WEEZ
Title: Our systems
Post by: Hantra on March 10, 2007, 08:17:01 AM
Quote from: "Double Ugly"
Every time I get pissed at BK - which happens about 2 out of 3 times I speak with him, so I don't call often  :roll: - I threaten to sell them.  

Haha!!!  I hear he's a unique guy to deal with.   :wink:

One of these days we ought to do a throw down between the 501's and the Monads.  That would be legendary.
Title: !
Post by: Double Ugly on March 10, 2007, 06:17:43 PM
Quote from: "Hantra"
Quote from: "Double Ugly"
Every time I get pissed at BK - which happens about 2 out of 3 times I speak with him, so I don't call often  :roll: - I threaten to sell them.  

Haha!!!  I hear he's a unique guy to deal with.   :wink:
What a pleasant way of putting it...  :roll:


Quote from: "Hantra"
One of these days we ought to do a throw down between the 501's and the Monads.  That would be legendary.
Yes, it would.  

I'm game whenever you figure out how to sneak past the NC border patrol.  I have to assume they're the reason you find it so difficult to leave the state.  :wink:
Title: Our systems
Post by: lonewolfny42 on March 11, 2007, 07:50:02 PM
Quote from: "WEEZ"
Hey Chris,

Are you still paying for your 'other' system(s)  :?:

 :beer:

WEEZ
No Don....their all paid for. :wink:
I may move up to cassettes as my source....getting hard to find those 8 Tracks..... :lol:
Title: Re: !
Post by: Hantra on March 11, 2007, 08:45:11 PM
Quote from: "Double Ugly"
I'm game whenever you figure out how to sneak past the NC border patrol.  I have to assume they're the reason you find it so difficult to leave the state.  :wink:

We ain't got no border patrol.  The militia patrols the border here, and I'm a lifetime member.  (http://forum.e46fanatics.com/images/smilies/bigun2.gif)
Title: Our systems
Post by: Mr_bill2 on March 12, 2007, 03:41:22 PM
Audio System:


Amplifier: Classe CAM-350 mono blocks w(soon to be)/Black Sand Violet Z1 PC's.

Preamplifier: Sonic Euphoria PLC, Krell KPE MC phono with Krell power supply.

Speakers: Eminent Technology LFT-8/A w/ Sound Anchor stands.


Sources:

CD Player: Sony SCD-1 w/ Black Sand Violet Z1 AC cord / Neuance shelf.

Turntable/Phono Stage: Basis 1400 w/ Basis RB-300 arm (re-wired with VdH silver wire w/ VdH gold clips) / Benz Ruby Open Air 3H / Solid Steel TT stand with top shelf replaced with a Neuance.

Other Source(s): MD FT101 Tuner


Speaker Cables/Interconnects: TG Audio ic's & spk cables / Kimber KCAG for KPE & PBJ for FT101.


Power Conditioner/Others: Dedicated 20 amp lines only.
Racks: Target rack and amp stands; Solid Steel stand for TT set-up.


Room Size (LxWxH): 25 x 19 x 9
Room Comments/Treatments: w/w carpet

Music Preferences and Comments: It sounds pretty damn good!
Music Used (Genre/Selections): Anything I can get my hands on.

System Goals/Comments: As close to a live performance as possible.
System Strengths: Gives a "you are there" experience.
System Weaknesses: My wallet.

----------------------------------------------

Video/HT System:

TV/Projector: Sony 42" XBR LCD

Processor/Receiver/Amplifiers: Jolida JD1501RC

Speakers (Center, Surrounds, Sub): Monitor Audio Silver

Sources (DVD/VCR): Toshiba SD-2200, DVD/CD/HDCD

Other HT Gear: Discovery/Kimber/Tara cables(leftovers),
All plugged into a Brickwall PW8R15AD isolation receptacle unit except for the Jolida integrated.

Comments on HT System: HD is fantastic!!
Title: Our systems
Post by: eric the red on March 12, 2007, 09:28:42 PM
Quote from: "Mr_bill2"
Audio System:


Amplifier: Classe CAM-350 mono blocks w(soon to be)/Black Sand Violet Z1 PC's.

Preamplifier: Sonic Euphoria PLC, Krell KPE MC phono with Krell power supply.

Speakers: Eminent Technology LFT-8/A w/ Sound Anchor stands.


Sources:

CD Player: Sony SCD-1 w/ Black Sand Violet Z1 AC cord / Neuance shelf.

Turntable/Phono Stage: Basis 1400 w/ Basis RB-300 arm (re-wired with VdH silver wire w/ VdH gold clips) / Benz Ruby Open Air 3H / Solid Steel TT stand with top shelf replaced with a Neuance.

Other Source(s): MD FT101 Tuner


Speaker Cables/Interconnects: TG Audio ic's & spk cables / Kimber KCAG for KPE & PBJ for FT101.


Power Conditioner/Others: Dedicated 20 amp lines only.
Racks: Target rack and amp stands; Solid Steel stand for TT set-up.


Room Size (LxWxH): 25 x 19 x 9
Room Comments/Treatments: w/w carpet

Music Preferences and Comments: It sounds pretty damn good!
Music Used (Genre/Selections): Anything I can get my hands on.

System Goals/Comments: As close to a live performance as possible.
System Strengths: Gives a "you are there" experience.
System Weaknesses: My wallet.
!

Holy crap!
Title: Our systems
Post by: bobrex on March 14, 2007, 01:50:32 PM
Source:
Analog - VPI HW19 MK (something or other), Alphason 1000S tone arm rewired with Cardas wire, Van Den Hul Frog, Markowitz "Whiz" wire lead.  Herron VTPH1MC phono stage
Digital - CAL Alpha and Delta with Wireworld Eclipse balanced connect

Line Stage:
Joule Electra LA100MK3, Black Sand White Light power cord

Amps:
Welborne Labs Moondog 2A3 SET with Ultimate upgrade, Sylvania VT-231 tubes and EML Meshplate outputs, Black Sand White Light cord

Speakers:
VMPS RM30M - rosewood, TRT caps, OXO w/ built in PBS, Bolder silver wire, MLS cabs, CDWG, soon to be Black Sand Violet cords on plate amps

Misc:
Kimber 8 TC
assorted interconnects - want to buy Grovers
Tip Toes
Navcomm Pucks
Nitty Gritty V1, RRL fluid, Mofi brushes
Assorted other paraphenalia
Title: Our systems
Post by: Inscrutable on March 14, 2007, 06:03:56 PM
Well, it is all sitting around in storage, waiting for my &&*%^%$ foot to heal and for me to finish the upstairs (after which I may revamp a lot):

Two channel
Sources:
Oracle Delphi with (custom) Koetsu Rosewood/Urushi on a Syrinx PU-3
Modded Pioneer 563
Sansui TU-717
Squeezebox 3

Amp:
Plinius 8200 Mk II integrated

Speakers:
NHT 3.3

Cables:
Various, including Black Sand, Black Mountain, Rapport, Zu, and a bunch of others I can't even remember.

Not sure if anyone is interested in HT systems here.
Title: Our systems
Post by: stereofool on March 18, 2007, 05:29:07 AM
I'm new to the site...I see a lot of nice systems...in here  :D .

Main audio system:

Amp - Audio Research VT100mkIII
Pre-Amp - Audio Research REF 1
CD - Linn Ikemi
LP - Linn Sondek LP12
Phono Pre - Audio Research PH3
Speakers - Newform Research R645's
Subwoofer - ACI Titan
IC's - Harmonic Tech Pro-Silway 3's
Speaker cables - Harmonic Tech Pro 9's
Title: Our systems
Post by: WEEZ on March 18, 2007, 06:42:26 AM
Welcome, stereofool.

Nice set-up :)

WEEZ
Title: Our systems
Post by: mca on March 18, 2007, 09:31:23 AM
Some nice setups listed here for sure  :D

Mr_bill2:

I'd love to hear a bit about those Eminent Technology LFT-8/A speakers

stereofool:

Ditto on your Newform Research R645's

These are a couple of speaker brands I have always been interested in, but there is not a whole lot of information out there on them!
Title: Our systems
Post by: Mr_bill2 on March 18, 2007, 10:11:41 AM
Quote from: "mca"
Some nice setups listed here for sure  :D

Mr_bill2:

I'd love to hear a bit about those Eminent Technology LFT-8/A speakers

stereofool:

Ditto on your Newform Research R645's

These are a couple of speaker brands I have always been interested in, but there is not a whole lot of information out there on them!


mca,
Thank you for your kind comments(you too eric the red); it's a system I have worked on for a longtime over many years and I think I might have found "the compromises" that I am willing to living with.  As we all know, no system no matter how much money we dump into it will be prefect, so in my opinion we look for what reaches us on a personal note rather than the unattainable pursuit of "perfection"!

As for the ET8s they are a very special speaker, and you are right, there is not much out there to help you in your purchase(other than the stray dealer - unfortunately far and few between) so it takes a leap of faith to buy them sight unseen or unlistened.  

So if you can't find a pair to listen to, I can recommend you visit Audioaslyum, the "panel speaker" section(and if you can cut through a lot of the BS, you can find a lot of good info and customer experiences that might help you to decide if you might want to pursue these guys).  In my case I can tell you unequivocally, I went from a Dunlavy 4A(no slouch by any means) to the ETs and never regretted the move.  Unfortunately I did have to give up my beloved Wolcott 220W tube mono blocks and buy the Classe monos but I had to, as they gave a better match to the ETs(they need lots of ss watts); but hey in my case the end results were well worth going from tubes to ss(synergy is the key, not price).

Another great move I made was to go from an active pre(also tube at the time) to a passive one...but only if your system can handle the impedance mismatches and voltages necessary to drive the signal.  If so, you would be greatly rewarded.  Hopefully in another section the merits of this can be examined and debated over, to better help some that might be contemplating this type of purchase.

Great systems & comments guys :D and a great site to be apart of!! I look forward to the exchange of ideas here, w/o the crap a lot of other sites go through when egos collide.  :o

Warmest regards to all,
bill2
Title: Our systems
Post by: stereofool on March 18, 2007, 05:02:38 PM
Quote from: "mca"
Some nice setups listed here for sure  :D

Mr_bill2:

I'd love to hear a bit about those Eminent Technology LFT-8/A speakers

stereofool:

Ditto on your Newform Research R645's

These are a couple of speaker brands I have always been interested in, but there is not a whole lot of information out there on them!


mca,

I had been using Aerial 10T's as my mains, when I ran across the Newform R645's. It turned out that a buddy had just obtained a pair, and I had a chance to listen to them. So, later I had a chance to pick up a used pair...for a good price. Well...I couldn't turn down the chance to audition a pair, and save $$ at the same time  :wink: !

I have really enjoyed the 645's immensely. They are very transparent, provide a deep and wide soundstage (recording dependent...of course), and respond quickly. Compared to my 10T's...they are more open and transparent, the highs are well extended. Now, the bass is not a powerful on the 645's, but since the 45" ribbons carry most of the 'music'...that is a compromise I can live with...especially with a subwoofer that can supplement bass, when needed.
Title: Our systems
Post by: martyt on April 01, 2007, 11:13:51 AM
My System

JM Labs Electra 936 Speakers mounted on Mapleshade triple point brass cones.
Transparent Reference XL SV Speaker cable.
Cary 805 Anniversary Edition Amplifiers w/Sylvania nos tubes.
Cary 98SL F1 preamplifier W/Sylvania nos tubes.
EMM LABS Meiter Transport CDSD mounted on Black Diamond shelf.
EMM LABS Meiter DAC6e.
Aesthetix Rhea Phono Preamp.
Platine Verdier Turntable modified for battery operation, mounted on SRA bases, 4 pound Redpoint weight.
Basis Vector Arm.
Shelter 90X cartridge.
Tara Labs The One interconnects.
Arcisis rack.
Power conditioner built per 10audio.com instructions with oyaide outlets.
PS Audio UPC-200 modified with Oyaide outlets.
DIY Symposium Ultra clone amp platform mounted on Polycrystal amp stand (wood floors braced with 4x4 posts under house).
All components utilize Black Diamond cones and pucks.
Black Sand Violet and Silver Reference and VHAudio Flavor 4 Power cords.

The system is the result of 10 years of changes to finally get a system that conforms to my room and listening tastes. I listen to jazz, classical, and vocals.  :lol:
Title: Our systems
Post by: Bemopti123 on April 07, 2007, 08:43:34 PM
Transport:               47 Labs Shigaraki
DAC:                       47 Labs Shigaraki DAC
PC based:                Mac Mini 1st Generation with 512 MB ram
DAC for PC: Headroom Micro DAC
Preamp:                  Forte Model 4 with external Power Section (commonly used for Vinyl preamp duties when I use my First Sound Paramount Hot Rod MKII)
Tuner:                     McIntosh MR-78
Amplifier:                Final Laboratories Music 6 battery powered amplifier
Power conditioning:  BPT 2.5 Signature and UPC-200B PS Humbuster
Loudspeaker:           Altec 755E mounted in a JE Labs OB
Subwoofer:              Infinity Intermezzo 2.1 BASH
Cabling:                   different types
Title: Our systems
Post by: ashok on April 11, 2007, 06:55:31 AM
Hi everyone,

I hang out on Audio Circle also, but do not post often to avoid foot-in-mouth syndrome. Anyway, here is my modest system:

CD Player: Sony SCD 2000ES
DAC: Diyparadise Monica 2
Tuner: Yamaha CT410II
Preamp: Passive transformer based. Not a TVC, but a fixed 10K:10K transformer, with a 10K ohm PEC pot on the secondary of the transformer. (Like Jack Elliano's PVA). Transformers are made by Magnequest.
Crossover: Marchand XM1 from kit, crossover frequency 100Hz
Main Amplifier: Diytube ST-35
Main Speakers: Omega Loudspeakers TS-1, with a BSC filter.
Tweeters: Cheap Parts Express horn tweeters, passively crossed over from main speakers at around 9kHz.
Subwoofer: AV123 ELT SW-10.
Cabling: Blue Jeans interconnects and speaker cables, Volex power cords.

Best regards,

Ashok
Title: Our systems
Post by: Carlman on April 11, 2007, 07:17:49 AM
Welcome, Ashok!  Looks like you've spent some serious time into getting a synergistic system together.  Congrats and welcome to AN!  Don't worry about your feet here. ;)

-Carl
Title: Our systems
Post by: opnly bafld on April 11, 2007, 07:36:57 AM
Ashok your setup may be "modest", but looking at the list I would say it sounds better than many Hi End :oops: systems that I have heard. :D

Lin
Title: Our systems
Post by: miklorsmith on April 11, 2007, 07:44:47 AM
Agreed, it looks like a true labor of love and one that most of us would love.

I hope you choose to leave your inhibitions behind.  The crows will not peck at your eyes here.
Title: Our systems
Post by: ashok on April 11, 2007, 09:04:25 AM
Hi everyone,

Thanks for the kind words of welcome. I have been an audio enthusiast for about 4 years now, and am constantly thinking about mods, tweaks, new equipment ... Audio Nervosa is a most apt description of this affliction.

But I think it is now time to settle down and enjoy the music (as soon as I have tried this next amp/preamp/cd player/tweak I have been eyeing).

Ashok
Title: bipolar system disorders
Post by: calloway on May 03, 2007, 04:44:11 PM
...as one of the new kids on the block this is my current system...like alot of the others ..it is always in a state of flux....

source:  scd-1.with vse 5+ and kern mods
preamp: first sound 'paramount mkII
amp:      goldmund 29-m
speakers:piega c-10 ltds
cables:    i/c x 2 and pc x 5 are jps 'aluminatas'
              speaker cables are prana wire 'cosmos'
power conditioner:..power wing with oyaide outlets
stands: sistrum platforms under all equiptment
Title: Our systems
Post by: WEEZ on May 03, 2007, 08:46:47 PM
Welcome, calloway.

(doesn't look like a 'new kid on the block' system to me :) )

WEEZ
Title: Our systems
Post by: mca on May 03, 2007, 09:20:24 PM
Cool, another Piega owner :D
Title: Our systems
Post by: Rocket on May 05, 2007, 02:03:04 AM
Hi Guys,

I thought i'd chime in with my system details:

Transport:  Pioneer pds 507 (g&d clock and digital output board mods)
Dac: Perpetual Technologies p3a/p1a modwright level 2
Preamp:  N.E.W. P3 Tube preamp
Amplifier:  Ps Audio hca - 2 (modified)/Son of Ampzilla
Speakers:  Zalytron speaker Kit Raven 2/ Phl drivers
Turntable:  Bluenote Piccol phonostage
Phonostage:  Bluenote De medici

Things i don't like about my system:  I need more bass

Regards

Rod
Title: Re: Our systems
Post by: dangerbird on June 17, 2007, 03:52:32 AM
Hi,, ya'll
 Source-- Ah! Njoe w/upsampler/amperex bb's
 PRE--Modwright SWL 9.0
 Amps--Odyssey mono Se's
 Speakers--Tyler Acoustic's 7U's
 Cables--Mit T-2 and Signal Cable PC (currently evaluating BS pc's and Grover IC's)

I might add that the Black Sand PC and the Grover IC's are SWEET(thanks to a forum member for the loan, and the upcoming depletion of my savings account)  :drool:
Title: Re: Our systems
Post by: rosconey on June 17, 2007, 04:04:36 PM
mains are 3.5 way stand mounts by rick craig-soon to be powered by my new  odyssey extreme se monos-

subwoofer is a vmps large in a custom corner cabinet run in stereo powered by a pair of odyssey extreme monos-

pre is a odyssey candela-

jungson tuna

shengya s10 cdp

Title: Re: Our systems
Post by: Rocket on October 06, 2007, 05:42:46 PM
Hi Guys,

I've had a recent addition to my system as I have bought Nuforce s9 speakers.  The bass is fine now.

Transport:  Pioneer pds 507 (g&d clock and digital output board mods)
Dac: Perpetual Technologies p3a/p1a modwright level 2
Preamp:  N.E.W. P3 Tube preamp
Amplifier:  Ps Audio hca - 2 (modified)/Son of Ampzilla
Speakers:  Nuforce s9/Zalytron speaker Kit Raven 2/ Phl drivers
Turntable:  Bluenote Piccol phonostage
Phonostage:  Bluenote De medici
Title: Re: Our systems
Post by: richidoo on October 06, 2007, 06:17:09 PM
Hey congrats Rocket!!!! Let's hear all about them!?!? Got some pics??

Title: Re: Our systems
Post by: _Scotty_ on October 06, 2007, 08:14:44 PM
There have been some changes to my system since I first listed it over on AC.
The new additions are a Superphon Revelation III preamp and a custom ChipAmp/GainClone.
The Chip amp is sort of the opposite approach from most versions. It has a total of 40,000mfd of Jensen caps in the power supply and a 500watt toroidal transformer. This lets it do 60watts into 8ohms and 120watts into 4ohms. The rest of the system is the same.
Speakers are Reimer Speakers Teton GS, 96dB efficient See link  http://www.sixmoons.com/audioreviews/roadtour10/roadtour10.html
Stan Warren modded JVC DVD player NS-512
Mapelnoll Ariadne TT  Custom phonostage , AudioTechnica AT440 ML
Fisher FM-100-B tuner rebuilt and restored to current broadcast specs courtesy of the Fisher Doctor telling me what parts values to use.
Reality Cables, ICs,speaker cables,power cords
Maple butcher blocks under power amp,preamp and DVD player roller bearing isolation under the DVD player. ERS paper on preamp,power amp and DVD player.
I listen to Jazz,Classical,indie,Classic Rock,New Age,Trance Ambient and others.
One of my favorite CDs is The Thievery Corporation,CosmicGame

Title: Re: Our systems
Post by: wet weasel on October 10, 2007, 06:01:45 PM
wet weasel's Wave Motion Engine

This is my primary system. It's currently undergoing rapid evolution. The process has stalled for two salient reasons: I'm pretty broke after a buying binge. Also, the Weasel's Wallow isn't ready for me to set it all up. We've had sort of a traumatic remodel here, and now it's full of Spouse's Schtuff, all the detritus that's too good to discard, not good enough to bring into the house, but just right to clutter the Wallow. It is to sigh and roll the eyes.

Without further ado: 

source 1)  Michell Orbe turntable
              SME V tonearm
              Lyra Helikon SL cartridge
              Lehman Black Cube phono stage (provisional)

source 2)  Rega Planet as transport (provisional)
               dCS Purcell upsampler
               dCS Elgar (non-1394) dac

preamp:    Pass Labs X0.2

amp:        Pass Labs X350.5

speakers:  Audio Physic Virgo (provisional. Birdseye maple finish)
               Rockport Syzygy 3-way floorstanders, still in crate
               Wilson WATCH Dawg, half out of crate. Hhhheavyy!

cabling:     van den Hul phono
               Nordost Frey, Valhalla balanced
               Brilliant Livestock Electroschlock silver-tfe single-ended (four single ends per pair)
               Alpha-Core Goertz copper speaker cable
               Electraglide, CPCC power cords
               Brilliant Livestock Corrupts Absolutely power cables

other:       Brilliant Livestock Mu Rack (in design stage)
               B.L InCPot indium-and-graphite coupling hooves
               B.L Schlocki Stones with unique passive-aggressive dissipation feature
               Mattel Reference Line "Close'n'Play" backup vinyl system
               Unmuffled Harley-Davidson active-bass module

System strengths:  Won't blow away in a high wind. Looks kind a cool. Runs kind a hot, which is good
               for the winter Wallow. Very good resolution and detail retrieval, and for my tastes it is
               utterly true to the music. Most components are "lifetime goal" purchases, unless something
               revolutionary comes down the pike.

System weaknesses:  Oy, I'm broke! My back hurts. Look at the electric bill. Every time I see a worthy
               upgrade for a provisional component appear on that spend-money site, I tense up. Are most
               recordings really that indifferently engineered? Some of my vinyl sounds like Jiffy Pop but
               doesn't smell as good. Ship is vulnerable for a full minute after firing.

System statement of purpose:  To extract as much information as is possible within today's state of the
               art. To do so without introducing additive artifacts or distortions. To maintain its composure
               during the most densely orchestrated fortissimi, and still sound credible during solo and
               pianissimo passages. To tell me if a given recording rocks, boogies, croons, sings, is in a coma
               or screams existential anguish at an absentee God. To be so accomplished at the above that I
               can leave the upgrade path and just listen to music. (Cue hoots of deranged laughter)

In re provisional components. CD transport: dCS Verdi? ML 31.5? Some exoticum from Cec or Emm??
               Phono stage: Pass Xono probably. Any suggestions that might work well in above system?
               AC treatments, e.g PS Audio or Shunyata?

Once the Weasel's Wallow is a little cleaner, I can get to work on making the Mu Rack and on v.2 Brilliant Livestock ics and speaker cables. I have some wunnerful wunnerful idears. Also, I will need to buy and emplace foam panels.els.ls.s
Any questions? (cheezy grin)
cheers ww
Title: Re: Our systems
Post by: rollo on October 11, 2007, 07:20:40 AM
I've been at this for some 30 years now. Had some memorable systems Maggie 3As with Audio research DR250,CAT pre, Mirage 3si with Classe DR25 amp and Audible Illusions 3A Pre. Nice synergy with those combos. Miss the Maggies some times and the sheer power of the Mirages.
       Now its SET time, so here goes:

 TT -   Linn LP12 with Lingo,Cirkus,trampolin,mods. Omega Mikro active powercord
 Cart. - Micro Benz M-2
 CDP - Lector 7tl. Omega Mikro active PC
 Preamp - Loech & Weisner [tubed], custom with phono and dual mono tubed power supply. NOS WE 417a-phono, NOS Mullard 6GK5-input, NOS Amprex 6DJ8,NOS or Tungsol5687 or NOS Phillips 12BH7 for output. good to have choices here. Hard wired PC.
 Amp - Consonance Cyber 211 Mono Blocks. NOS GE 211,NOS RCA 211,NOS Tungsol 5687[driver], NOS Mullard EC188 [6DJ8] [input]. ESP powercords
 Speakers - Pipedreams 924 edition 24 Twtrs/9 Midbass per side.
 Sub -  Sunfire Mk2
 Tuner - Sansui TU 9500 -roof antenna
 cabling - CDP to pre - Harmonix Golden Ratio
              Pre to Amp - Tara Decade
              TT to Pre - Linn
               Pre to Sub - Audio Research Copper Litz
Extra stuff - Audio Research DR 250 Amp
                  Audio Research Classic 60 Amp
                  Omega Speakers
                  Maggie 3As
                  EAD transport
                  Theta 5A DA
                  Fischer 101 intergrated
                  TVC- Dual mon modified by Mapleshade
                  1500+ LPs
                  500 CDs
                  Misc ICs,pc, etc.
                   
   Oops there it is. rollo
Title: Re: Our systems
Post by: miklorsmith on October 11, 2007, 07:28:44 AM
I missed it until now - wet - that's one funny post!

It sounds like a fantastic setup too.
Title: Re: Our systems
Post by: hartwerger on October 12, 2007, 07:07:12 PM
Speakers:  Merlin VSM-M w/ upgraded Bam
Source:   Lector 7T MKI w/ PS3
Preamp:  Mapletree Audio Ultra 4A w/ PS2 (some mods in caps and resistors)
Amp:  Music Reference RM-10
Vinyl:  Rega P2 w/ RB300 tonearm
Interconnects:  MAC Palladiums, APL Silver
Power Cables:  Revelation Audio Precept II (for source), Black Sand Violet Z1 w/Wattgate AG (preamp), Cardas Golden Ref. (amp),
Isolation:  Lots of Herbies Audio Lab stuff (Halo tube rings, Iso Cups, Tenderfeet--the older ones), SRA Tremor/Less (under amp and I love it), Neuance Platform shelf (under CDP)

Before the Merlins, I went through 3 sets of Magnepan speakers ending with the 3.6s.  I really miss my Maggies at times.  The Maggies had the most transparent you are there sound I've ever had from a speaker that I've owned.    Though the Merlins don't sound quite as realistic as the Maggies, they do get me into a groove that I never quite got from the Maggies.   Maybe its that Maggies lack dynamics; or maybe its because the Maggies can be too revealing of flaws in the recordings which I always found distracting (the Merlins are certainly more forgiving in this regard).    Whatever the case, I find my current system engaging and intoxicating, which is the goal, ain't it.  In fact, lately, I haven't much of an urge to change anything.   But, being the good audiophile that I am, I am certain I will continue to tweak and try new things and before too long ruin my current setup to the point where I'll spend another decade trying to find a "musical" system.  See ya at the end of the road, where ever that may be.
Title: Re: Our systems
Post by: Rocket on October 13, 2007, 12:47:14 AM
Hi Richidoo,

I'm fairly impressed by the sound of the nuforce s9 speakers.  I recently sold my War Audio speakers (a local speaker designer) which used raven 1 ribbon tweeter and 2 x 7k4211db mid/bass focals in an mtm configuration.

To be honest my war audio speakers were in a similiar league in sound quality, I think the nuforce's midrange is very good and I like the bass it produces.  Pat sells the War Audio 'Dianne's for $8000au which were reviewed by 6moons and imo those speakers are definitely a lot better than my nuforce speakers.  They should be as the accuton drivers cost a fortune and the raven 1 ribbon tweeter is also expensive.

I bought the nuforce speakers on demo for $3300us as opposed to $5500us.  I like the look of them and they sound good on all types of music.

How do I upload some picture to show you?

Regards

Rod
Title: Re: Our systems
Post by: Bigfish8 on October 13, 2007, 01:28:48 PM
Hello Fellas:

My system currently:

Amps:      Odyssey Mono SEs
Preamp:   Odyssey Candela
Source:   Bolder Analog Modded S3 with Platinum Caps with Bolder Modded Elcpac VM 220
Assec.     Stock Burson Buffer
Speakers: SP Technology Timepiece 2.1s with Seas Excel Woofers
ICs:        Grover Graphites
SCs:        Greg Straley Reality Cables

I have a pair of Mullard Tubes on order to evaluate in the Candela and am considering the potential purchase of a used pair of HT Pro 9 Biwire SCs.

Future want list:  Equi=Tech 1.5Q Balanced Power Unit, potential Bolder Mods to the Burson Buffer and Bolder Ultimate Power Supply.

Ken

Title: Re: Our systems
Post by: mgalusha on October 13, 2007, 08:26:22 PM
Current system setup,

Source:
          Digital: modified Slim Devices Squeezebox 2 in custom case with dedicated power supply.
                    modified Denon 2900 universal player for SACD and DVD-A

          Analog: DIY Teres turntable with solid cocobolo platter, loaded with ~12lbs of lead shot, modified arm robbed from music hall TT or modified Rega RB-300 arm. Scheu-Benz cartridge (based on Benz Glider). Hagerman Cornet phono stage with Jensen 1:10 step up transformers.

Preamp: custom DIY using Burson buffer modules and 100 step relay based stepped attenuator. 6dB of gain. System is actively bi-amped so the preamp is followed by a Marchand XM-44 crossover with an improved power supply and a few other tweaks.

Amps:
       Bass is handled by a Rotel 1080. Not the first choice for a full range system but it works extremely well for the bass and delivers 400WPC into 4R to my woofers.

       Midrange and treble is currently handled by Odyssey Extreme monos but sometimes I use a pair of R.E. Designs LNPA 150's. Either has way more than enough power for driving the mids/tweeters. I've got some ideas for the Odyssey power supplies so it's likely the LNPA's will be going back in for a while.

Speakers:  Meadowlark Blue Heron II's modified for use with active crossovers. Passive 1st order XO is still used to roll in the tweeter at 4K and roll off the mid but they are otherwise directly wired to the amps. The improvement of going active is hard to overstate. Dynamics, coherency, clarity - all took a huge leap when going from passive to active.

Room: Right now my room sucks beyond belief. In our old home I had a 24x15 room with a 16.5 ft ceiling. It  was very nice. When we purchased the new home I put the system in the dining room, which while smaller was actually pretty good once some room treatments were in place. However once the youngest son moved out my wife suggested I take his bedroom as a dedicated listening room. This seemed a good idea but once I realized how much room the closet took up I was effectively in a 10x12 space. I have a boatload of room treatments but there are bass modes I cannot tame. Fortunately I'm having a dedicated room built in the basement that will be 21x15 with a 9ft ceiling along with dedicated power and I'm sure that will be a huge improvement. 

ICs: diy using Neotech OCC silver with a floating shield connected to ground via a large inductor (low pass filter)
SCs: mids/tweeters are Analysis Plus Oval 9, woofers are diy using 4 - 12ga conductors.
PCs: mostly Venhaus Flavor 4 with a couple of BOLDER Nitro's on the XO and preamp.

Main power is a modified (of course) BPT 2.5 Ultra. It has a pair of large Bybee purifiers on the output feeding three of the outlets. The other two outlets are fed direct and are not balanced power. One set of these has a pair of large inductors of the sort Jon Risch uses in his DIY power box. All outlets have a combination of Auricap and Sonicap filters. Internal wiring was replaced with 10GA silver plated copper.
Title: Re: Our systems
Post by: Christof on October 14, 2007, 03:04:47 PM
My system is a bit of a mess due to my never ending renovation project but I'll give this a go.  My listening room has grown 3x in size (23d x 45 w x 12h) and I anticipate some major changes in days to follow but for now here she is:

Source: iMac G5 w/ 1tb ext HD
Dac: Fireston Audio Fubar2 w/ Supplier PS
Pre: Electrocompaniet ECI3
Amp(bi):  Odyssey Khartago - stereo amps in vertical biamp config
Speakers:  SP Tech Timepiece 2.1
Wires: Zu Warmouth IC's & Zu Wax cables
The extras: Isolated 20A ground circuits for all components, TS Moooi agglomerate cork speaker stands, TS Norsorex & Cocobolo isolation platforms.

The future holds....

I commissioned Rick Craig to design a custom 3-way (mtmww) for me using the AirCirc 6600 tweeter, 5" Seas Nextel mids and Seas 10" Aluminum drivers.  Design is done, parts are in my hands and I'm just finishing up the prototype TS cabinets.  Some refinements to the "computer-as-source" are in line and Klaus at Odyssey will be building me a pair of Mono SE's.   I also have a nifty Pro-ject Perspective TT and phono stage sitting unused which I will probably try to integrate into my system.
Title: Re: Our systems
Post by: rollo on October 15, 2007, 06:18:48 AM
Speakers:  Merlin VSM-M w/ upgraded Bam
Source:   Lector 7T MKI w/ PS3
Preamp:  Mapletree Audio Ultra 4A w/ PS2 (some mods in caps and resistors)
Amp:  Music Reference RM-10
Vinyl:  Rega P2 w/ RB300 tonearm
Interconnects:  MAC Palladiums, APL Silver
Power Cables:  Revelation Audio Precept II (for source), Black Sand Violet Z1 w/Wattgate AG (preamp), Cardas Golden Ref. (amp),
Isolation:  Lots of Herbies Audio Lab stuff (Halo tube rings, Iso Cups, Tenderfeet--the older ones), SRA Tremor/Less (under amp and I love it), Neuance Platform shelf (under CDP)

Before the Merlins, I went through 3 sets of Magnepan speakers ending with the 3.6s.  I really miss my Maggies at times.  The Maggies had the most transparent you are there sound I've ever had from a speaker that I've owned.    Though the Merlins don't sound quite as realistic as the Maggies, they do get me into a groove that I never quite got from the Maggies.   Maybe its that Maggies lack dynamics; or maybe its because the Maggies can be too revealing of flaws in the recordings which I always found distracting (the Merlins are certainly more forgiving in this regard).    Whatever the case, I find my current system engaging and intoxicating, which is the goal, ain't it.  In fact, lately, I haven't much of an urge to change anything.   But, being the good audiophile that I am, I am certain I will continue to tweak and try new things and before too long ruin my current setup to the point where I'll spend another decade trying to find a "musical" system.  See ya at the end of the road, where ever that may be.
 


Nice to see another Lector Owner here. Have you tried Telkefunken 12AT7's in the CDP. About those Maggies, I agree. They require some serious tube or solid state amps. I used an Audio research DR250 with 250W triode bliss or a Classe DR25. I noticed you use a Revelation Audio PC with the Lector. What else have you tried? I use an Omega Mikro active with wonderfull results. Your taste in components is very similar to mine. The RM10 is a classic killer amp especially with Proac speakers or Hyperion. The Merlins fit right in with this group. Good luck and happy listening

rollo
Title: Re: Our systems
Post by: richidoo on October 16, 2007, 12:37:46 PM
Sounds good Rocket. Congrats. They are close resemblance to SP Tech, I think someone mentioned to me recently that they are made by them, or maybe inspired by SP?

Every speaker at RMAF with Accuton ceramic drivers sounded very clear and potent. I believe you about the WAR Dianne's. Must be awesome. The world need more good proven DIY designs using Accuton Ceramic drivers...  :rofl:

I have tried to post pics on gallery but I get confused how to do it. Carl, how bout a tutorial on how to set up a gallery and use it? I think the verbage of the gallery command links in stock form are not clear, at least to me. If you can show me sometime I will make up a tutorial. It would be great to streamline that and start using it. I always host photos on one of my websites but the gallery would be easier to use and more useful. End detour.... sorry.
Title: Re: Our systems
Post by: mca on October 17, 2007, 06:25:14 PM
Nice to see this topic keeping updated. Some nice systems around here for sure  :shock:

I have had several changes since my first post as well. Due to a money crunch, much of my original system had to be sold off. I got lucky and was able to purchase a pair of RAW HT8's directly from Al. These include lacewood veneer and sonicaps and platinum bypass caps in the crossovers. These were his demo units so I was able to purchase them for a very good price. They have turned out to be a truly great speaker and one that I am happy I ended up with.

Not long after that, I came upon a used Music Reference RM200. I had always been interested in one after reading the great Stereophile review. The review was spot on and it sounds very good for the price paid.

The trusty Bolder SB3 is still in use and sounding good. I am considering sending it in for the latest round of updates though.

Am I done? Not likely :D I just broke in a pair of Nuforce Ref9 V2 amps for a friend and have become quite attached to them. A pair of those or the SE's will hopefully find their way into my sometime in the future. I am also still looking at adding a preamp or a Burson or EE buffer to add some needed gain. After that, who knows, I'm still interested in hearing an open baffle or single driver speaker  :duh
Title: Re: Our systems
Post by: rollo on October 18, 2007, 08:12:19 AM
Nice to see this topic keeping updated. Some nice systems around here for sure  :shock:

I have had several changes since my first post as well. Due to a money crunch, much of my original system had to be sold off. I got lucky and was able to purchase a pair of RAW HT8's directly from Al. These include lacewood veneer and sonicaps and platinum bypass caps in the crossovers. These were his demo units so I was able to purchase them for a very good price. They have turned out to be a truly great speaker and one that I am happy I ended up with.

Not long after that, I came upon a used Music Reference RM200. I had always been interested in one after reading the great Stereophile review. The review was spot on and it sounds very good for the price paid.

The trusty Bolder SB3 is still in use and sounding good. I am considering sending it in for the latest round of updates though.

Am I done? Not likely :D I just broke in a pair of Nuforce Ref9 V2 amps for a friend and have become quite attached to them. A pair of those or the SE's will hopefully find their way into my sometime in the future. I am also still looking at adding a preamp or a Burson or EE buffer to add some needed gain. After that, who knows, I'm still interested in hearing an open baffle or single driver speaker  :duh
   


 That RM 200 is a classic. Sounds great with Audible Illusions 3A. Forget the Buffer. Keep it simple.

rollo
Title: Re: Our systems
Post by: wet weasel on October 20, 2007, 04:20:14 PM
Thanks guys, especially Mik!
System edit.
Analog source: got a great deal on a clearaudio "insider" cartridge. Gee, it looked bigger in the pictures... Installing it was the sort of thing to induce cold sweats. Weird pin placement, lotsa maneuvering close to that mondo-bux wisp of diamond and unobtainium. But once in, it rewarded me. Halfway into the test LP, I forgot all about being in reviewer mode and just floated on the music. Kewl.
Digital source: Swapped out the Planet; swapped in the Mark somebody No. 39 CD player (as transport) that had been doing duty as my bedside headphone system. I got a Grace m901 headphone amp ... and learned that even if it doesn't complain, headphone duty is too much to ask of a linestage. Top and bottom octave came back home, and overall sound became more transparent and involving. Planet works well into the Grace's resident dac. Everybody wins!
cheers ww
Title: Re: Our systems
Post by: hartwerger on October 21, 2007, 12:05:22 PM
Hey Rollo:   I'm a little late with a reply here.  Sorry about that; guess I haven't been keeping up with the forums like I should.   Anyway, if you're still out there and this post catches your eye, I was curious as to which version of the Lector do you own?  I have early version.  Some say the latest versions, the MKII and MKIII, are much more musical,, but I still love mine.  I just picked up this player a couple of months ago on the used market and it continues to amaze day to day.   I did try the Telefunkens.    In many respects, this was a remarkable tube, great powerful bass, clear and open midrange, extremely holographic with a huge soundstage.  It may be the most analog sounding of all the tubes I've tried, very smooth, but it didn't have enough zip on the top end for my tastes.   I felt like I wanted a little more energy on top which I felt I was getting from a Mullard 6201.  I intend to re-visit the Tele one of these days just to see if I still feel the same way, but haven't gotten around to it yet.   As for the power cords, I'd like to know a little more about the Omega Mikro.   I tried a Black Sand Violet Z1 with the Lector and a Michael Wolff Carbon Source.   Preferred the Revelation Audio Precept II over both of them.  The Wolff cord has a scary real sound to  it, but I ultimately felt like I was missing some upper bass/lower mid which my system needs.  I liked the warmth of the Black Sand, but it didn't have the tonal weight of the Precept II.    I really don't have much of a reason to replace the Precept cord, but sometimes I want a little more realism than the Precept provides, and sometimes I think it smooths over the leading edges of the notes a bit too much; nonetheless, its still a great cord that has yet to meet its match while on the Lector and everything that preceded the Lector.    I don't really know the Pipedreams--are they really tall line arrays?  How do you like them?
Title: Re: Our systems
Post by: rollo on October 22, 2007, 07:10:21 AM
Hey Rollo:   I'm a little late with a reply here.  Sorry about that; guess I haven't been keeping up with the forums like I should.   Anyway, if you're still out there and this post catches your eye, I was curious as to which version of the Lector do you own?  I have early version.  Some say the latest versions, the MKII and MKIII, are much more musical,, but I still love mine.  I just picked up this player a couple of months ago on the used market and it continues to amaze day to day.   I did try the Telefunkens.    In many respects, this was a remarkable tube, great powerful bass, clear and open midrange, extremely holographic with a huge soundstage.  It may be the most analog sounding of all the tubes I've tried, very smooth, but it didn't have enough zip on the top end for my tastes.   I felt like I wanted a little more energy on top which I felt I was getting from a Mullard 6201.  I intend to re-visit the Tele one of these days just to see if I still feel the same way, but haven't gotten around to it yet.   As for the power cords, I'd like to know a little more about the Omega Mikro.   I tried a Black Sand Violet Z1 with the Lector and a Michael Wolff Carbon Source.   Preferred the Revelation Audio Precept II over both of them.  The Wolff cord has a scary real sound to  it, but I ultimately felt like I was missing some upper bass/lower mid which my system needs.  I liked the warmth of the Black Sand, but it didn't have the tonal weight of the Precept II.    I really don't have much of a reason to replace the Precept cord, but sometimes I want a little more realism than the Precept provides, and sometimes I think it smooths over the leading edges of the notes a bit too much; nonetheless, its still a great cord that has yet to meet its match while on the Lector and everything that preceded the Lector.    I don't really know the Pipedreams--are they really tall line arrays?  How do you like them?
   

  hartwerger,
                      Good to hear from you. I have the Mk1 version. Heard the Mk3 and was not impressed. I believe the original still sounds better. You just need to isolate this baby and its power supply very well from external vibes. Ebony cones and Sound Fusion footers have worked best for me. ICs are Harmonix Golden Ratio. Havn't really experimented here as these ICs to it for me . Any suggestions? The Omega Mikro active PC is our clubs reference [Audiosyndrome]. Wonderfull tonality, huge soundstage, sparkling and sweet highs, authoritive bass and all the rest. Not cheap though. What is when its good. Very consistent no matter what system its plugged into. Amazing actually. I use their Active Speaker cable as well. They are tough to beat. Ron Bauman of Mapleshade has a winner here IMO.
    The Pipedreams are the 924 model. About 6'-6" tall with 24 tweeters and 9 midbass per side 94Db sen.. Do I like them? Are you *&#@&^$*&%$# kidding. Serious speakers here, they do it all in spades. With 16W SET power  its a trip. Even with SS. Had a Dartzeel Amp for a while[ loaner]. Sounded great but too much money for Amp. The bass and midbass presentation was breathtaking. For over $18,000 they just had to go.
     Well, time to change LP, its Sonny Rollins day. Happy listening.

rollo
Title: Re: Our systems
Post by: hartwerger on October 22, 2007, 06:25:25 PM
Interesting about the comparisons b/w the MKI and MKIII.  Since I own the MKI, I'm definitely glad to hear that.   Also glad to hear those Pipedreams are blowing your mind.  Hope to hear them myself one day.  As much as I like my Merlins, I could never give them the kind of endorsement you give your Pipedreams; however, I think I'd be comparing apples and oranges as the Pipes are most likely in a different league.  Still, I could make some sacreligous comments about the Merlins, but since they have such a devout following, I'll keep my thoughts to my own.  Anyway, the Lector.   Definitely benefits from isolation.   Its a necessity.    I bought my unit used and it came with some unknown brand of plastic cones for the power supply.   I've seen more than one Lector owner use a custom made Silent Running Audio Iso Base, but not being able to afford one of those, I was able to try one of the SRA entry level products called the Tremor/Less.   Although I was going to use it under the Lector player, SRA strongly urged me to use it under my amp and work my way in the direction of the player rather than vice versa.   I did and have no regrets.   Actually, the improvement from the Tremor/Less was like a component upgrade--just a nice even improvement in all areas of the frequency and made everything more pleasant and musical.   Can't recommend it enough no matter where you use it.   I swapped out the plastic cones in favor of some Herbies Iso Cups w/ the Gabon Gyro balls.   I really liked these much better than the cones.   I then picked up a used Neuance Platform shelf.   Like iceing on the cake.  The highs are a little silkier, better clarity, some improvement in an already great soundstage, and more PRAT.   I'm pretty happy with this setup.   Ideally, I'd like to get another Tremor/Less for the power supply of the Lector and the power supply of my preamp, but there are budget constraints.   Hopefully I can pick up another Neuance shelf (hint, hint, if anybody out there has one sitting in a closet they'd like to sell) since they aren't as expensive as the SRA products.     Although I think the Herbies IsoCups are doing a fine job under the power supply, I suspect there's more to be gained with one of the SRA or Neuance shelves.   Anyway, I seem to be rambling on about all this isolation.   You're more than welcome to email/PM me if you'd like more info.  ....... or if you want to invite me over to hear those Pipedreams.