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Offline James Edward

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My friend that recently rebuilt his circa 1980 SEAS DD Towers (see my posts…) wants a new integrated amp to power them. Big room, likes it loud at times, and the speakers aren’t all that efficient- I’d say 85 db or so sensitivity.
My first choice is the NAD C399- 180 wpc, and NAD watts are usually conservative…
Other suggestions welcome- I guess wattage is the most important qualifier- he can always get a Bluesound node or something similar. Thanks.
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Re: High Power Integrated With DAC/Streaming Capability ~ 2,000.00
« Reply #1 on: May 18, 2023, 04:35:06 PM »
Jim,

The Willsenton R8 tube integrated is the first thing I thought of. I realize it is only 45 watts, but my AVA SET 120 could only do 60 watts  and that used to fill up my large room easily. All the reviews and videos I’ve come across have raved about it and especially for the price. It also has a remote. A Bluesound Node or an iFi Zen streamer (with an inexpensive linear power supply) would sound great.

https://www.amazon.com/Willsenton-R8-Integrated-Amplifier-Headphone/dp/B08133TH98
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Re: High Power Integrated With DAC/Streaming Capability ~ 2,000.00
« Reply #3 on: May 19, 2023, 02:42:37 AM »
If you only want digital audio and streaming, you might consider something like the Orchard Audio Pecan Pi music streamer and music server with the Starkrimson  or Starkrimson Ultra Class D amps.  They are 150Wrms and 250Wrms versions and can be a stereo chassis.  The Pecan Pi has DAC analog output to feed it directly. It is a fully balanced system, so very low possibility of an y ground loops/hum problems.  The amps sound great to me with lots of clean sounding power available.

Good luck with your choice!

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Re: High Power Integrated With DAC/Streaming Capability ~ 2,000.00
« Reply #4 on: May 19, 2023, 07:17:40 AM »


Didn't think there would be a market amongst audiophiles for integrated amps with built in dacs.
If the dac is upgradeable then maybe.

Anyways, the NAD has the Bluesound OS built in. One of the easiest and best laid out operating systems I hear.
Better than my Lumin OS.

Since he is considering the NAD C399, I assume his budget is around 2.5k?

The Orchard that HAL mentioned STARTS at $3.5K
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Re: High Power Integrated With DAC/Streaming Capability ~ 2,000.00
« Reply #5 on: May 19, 2023, 10:23:32 AM »


Didn't think there would be a market amongst audiophiles for integrated amps with built in dacs.
If the dac is upgradeable then maybe.

Anyways, the NAD has the Bluesound OS built in. One of the easiest and best laid out operating systems I hear.
Better than my Lumin OS.

Since he is considering the NAD C399, I assume his budget is around 2.5k?

The Orchard that HAL mentioned STARTS at $3.5K
Funny thing, he’s not an audiophile. He’s a craftsman and decided he wanted his 40 year old speakers siging again. I had the crossovers redone by Scott Gramlich, got drivers from Madisound, etc.
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Re: High Power Integrated With DAC/Streaming Capability ~ 2,000.00
« Reply #6 on: May 19, 2023, 05:01:59 PM »
Even if he isn’t an audiophile, I would think he’d want the best sound possible for his budget. Keep us posted on his choices…
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Re: High Power Integrated With DAC/Streaming Capability ~ 2,000.00
« Reply #7 on: May 19, 2023, 05:49:55 PM »


Didn't think there would be a market amongst audiophiles for integrated amps with built in dacs.
If the dac is upgradeable then maybe.

Anyways, the NAD has the Bluesound OS built in. One of the easiest and best laid out operating systems I hear.
Better than my Lumin OS.

Since he is considering the NAD C399, I assume his budget is around 2.5k?

The Orchard that HAL mentioned STARTS at $3.5K

The standard Starkrimson Monoblocks are $1599/pair for the 150W version with the stock power supply and $1899/pair with the upgraded 300W GaN SMPS.  The Starkrimson Ultra version is the higher price version.  The Monoblocks and the Pecan Pi are in the price range posted.   

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Re: High Power Integrated With DAC/Streaming Capability ~ 2,000.00
« Reply #8 on: May 19, 2023, 10:48:13 PM »
Here's a different idea:

Nuprime Omnia A300

Integrated amp + DAC 150w/ch @ 8 ohms 200w/ch @ 4 ohms

I own this amp. I bought it to replace my IDA-8 that I gifted to my son. The A300 isn't quite as warm sounding as the IDA-8, but it's easier to use, and it's more powerful. It also has headphone out. The retail is $1495, but your friend ought to be able to get it at a discount.

https://nuprimeaudio.com/product/omnia-a300/
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Re: High Power Integrated With DAC/Streaming Capability ~ 2,000.00
« Reply #9 on: May 20, 2023, 04:41:49 AM »


Didn't think there would be a market amongst audiophiles for integrated amps with built in dacs.
If the dac is upgradeable then maybe.

Anyways, the NAD has the Bluesound OS built in. One of the easiest and best laid out operating systems I hear.
Better than my Lumin OS.

Since he is considering the NAD C399, I assume his budget is around 2.5k?

The Orchard that HAL mentioned STARTS at $3.5K

The standard Starkrimson Monoblocks are $1599/pair for the 150W version with the stock power supply and $1899/pair with the upgraded 300W GaN SMPS.  The Starkrimson Ultra version is the higher price version.  The Monoblocks and the Pecan Pi are in the price range posted.   

Ah!

I was looking at this

https://orchardaudio.com/starkrimson_streamer_ultra_500w_hifi_streaming_amplifier/
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