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Self Medicating => General DIY => Topic started by: eleazar on November 04, 2012, 10:16:21 AM

Title: Another DIY Record Cleaner
Post by: eleazar on November 04, 2012, 10:16:21 AM
A $5.30 end table from a thrift shop and a donated platter and bearing. We have the start of a record cleaner


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Title: Re: Another DIY Record Cleaner
Post by: eleazar on November 05, 2012, 04:06:18 AM
Getting close

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Title: Re: Another DIY Record Cleaner
Post by: StereoNut on November 05, 2012, 06:56:41 AM
Way cool, Bill!  Keep the pix on your progress comin', along with a step by step of what you used and how you put it all together!  I have an almost identical end table in my garage that's crying out to be converted like yours! :thumb:
Title: Re: Another DIY Record Cleaner
Post by: richidoo on November 05, 2012, 08:03:32 AM
That looks good Bill. Is that a homemade vac wand? Are you gonna use that monster shop vac in the background?  aa
Keep the pictures coming!
Thanks!
Title: Re: Another DIY Record Cleaner
Post by: rollo on November 05, 2012, 09:05:17 AM
 Coolio man. We got a LP cleaner girl instead.  :lol:


charles
Title: Re: Another DIY Record Cleaner
Post by: eleazar on November 05, 2012, 01:26:03 PM
Thanks guys,  :thumb:
Yes Rich the suction wand is nothing more than 1/2 schedule 40 PVC. Two 5 1/2 pieces with a 90. I drilled several small holes on each end clamped it into a Black & Decker workmate and then cut by hand a slot using a hacksaw blade. I used a piece of 1/2 dowel and silicone to plug the end. Then I spray painted the Masonite and the wand with metallic paint that's is ''supposed'' to be good with plastic. We shall see. I'm going to use a Shop Vac mini underneath with a toggle switch up top to operate the vac. I need to come up with a good solution to attach the wand to the vac. I'm sure I'll come up with something.......Bill

Thanks to AVnerdguy from A/C for the donation of the Pioneer platter
Title: Re: Another DIY Record Cleaner
Post by: etcarroll on November 05, 2012, 01:33:39 PM
You're a freakin' genius!

Or insane.

Definately one or the other.
Title: Re: Another DIY Record Cleaner
Post by: shadowlight on November 05, 2012, 01:42:40 PM
You're a freakin' genius!

Or insane.

Definately one or the other.

Freakin Genius  :lol:
Title: Re: Another DIY Record Cleaner
Post by: richidoo on November 05, 2012, 02:05:19 PM
I think a 1/2" to 1" coupler might work to connect the shop vac pipe to the suction wand. The ID of the 1" coupler is 1.3" and the vac hose OD is 1.25". Add a little duct tape. ;)

In my experience, soft PVC takes any kind of paint really well. That's the same color as the amp stand, right?
Title: Re: Another DIY Record Cleaner
Post by: eleazar on November 05, 2012, 02:12:54 PM
Thanks Rich I'll pick one up and give it a try

The amp stand was Black Night Metallic. This color is called Oil Rubbed Bronze and is Rust-oleum's Universal Advanced Formula paint and primer in one.

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Title: Re: Another DIY Record Cleaner
Post by: djdube525 on November 06, 2012, 02:46:17 AM
Do you get uniform suction along the wand? Are the holes uniform or do they vary in size to accommodate varying  air velocity along the wand?

It very well could be too short to make much of a difference. Just a wondering.
Title: Re: Another DIY Record Cleaner
Post by: eleazar on November 06, 2012, 03:53:23 AM
Do you get uniform suction along the wand? Are the holes uniform or do they vary in size to accommodate varying  air velocity along the wand?

It very well could be too short to make much of a difference. Just a wondering.

I made the wand but haven't hooked a vac to it yet. As much suction as will be used through such a small opening I'm thinking the small diff. won't matter.
Title: Re: Another DIY Record Cleaner
Post by: BobM on November 06, 2012, 04:36:13 AM
Another thought, based on experience with my VPI 16.5 ...

The VPI uses a geared transmission to turn the platter, and a good thing it does, because when you really need to apply a little pressure to the brushes it does indeed strain the turning of the platter. You might want to include a clamp on yours that will allow you to hand turn the platter when you need to, or to at least hold it still while you run the brush back and forth over a really dirty record surface.

Lookin good though, and plenty of top space to hold the ancillary equipment and such.
Title: Re: Another DIY Record Cleaner
Post by: eleazar on November 06, 2012, 11:20:33 AM
Hi Bob,
I plan on a hockey puck with a handle I'll work on that this weekend plus a extra wand for a backup
Title: Re: Another DIY Record Cleaner
Post by: eleazar on November 07, 2012, 04:49:30 PM
Thanks Rich, good call on the 1'' PVC coupler w/ a 1/2 flush bushing. Some Silicone and black electrical tape "bingo"

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Title: Re: Another DIY Record Cleaner
Post by: eleazar on November 08, 2012, 01:58:01 PM
What brand of power cord would be best :rofl: :rofl:

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Title: Re: Another DIY Record Cleaner
Post by: shadowlight on November 08, 2012, 02:37:36 PM
What brand of power cord would be best :rofl: :rofl:


Hmm, never mind  :-#
Title: Re: Another DIY Record Cleaner
Post by: richidoo on November 08, 2012, 03:34:41 PM
This guy thinks so....
http://www.polkaudio.com/forums/showthread.php?87672-Improvements-To-The-VPI-HW-16.5-Record-Cleaning-Machine (http://www.polkaudio.com/forums/showthread.php?87672-Improvements-To-The-VPI-HW-16.5-Record-Cleaning-Machine)

He compared 3 power cords and measured for machine noise. He also tried power conditioner.

Oh, and rollo will like this, he uses Hifituning fuse in it!

I can't even imagine how clean his records must be.
Title: Re: Another DIY Record Cleaner
Post by: eleazar on November 08, 2012, 03:40:06 PM
(http://img526.imageshack.us/img526/57/40a07217233c9a4de35c4e9.jpg)

It's already to be powered up :thumb:
Title: Re: Another DIY Record Cleaner
Post by: eleazar on November 08, 2012, 03:45:05 PM
This guy thinks so....
http://www.polkaudio.com/forums/showthread.php?87672-Improvements-To-The-VPI-HW-16.5-Record-Cleaning-Machine (http://www.polkaudio.com/forums/showthread.php?87672-Improvements-To-The-VPI-HW-16.5-Record-Cleaning-Machine)

He compared 3 power cords and measured for machine noise. He also tried power conditioner.

Oh, and rollo will like this, he uses Hifituning fuse in it!

I can't even imagine how clean his records must be.

That's a little over the top  :rofl:
Thanks....Rich
Title: Re: Another DIY Record Cleaner
Post by: eleazar on November 08, 2012, 04:04:49 PM
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Electrical checks out OK
Title: Re: Another DIY Record Cleaner
Post by: eleazar on November 08, 2012, 04:51:28 PM
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Title: Re: Another DIY Record Cleaner
Post by: sleepyguy24 on November 09, 2012, 07:03:46 AM
(http://img526.imageshack.us/img526/57/40a07217233c9a4de35c4e9.jpg)

It's already to be powered up :thumb:

Man this whole project is awesome. I wish I had these DIY skills.

One other thing though. That stock outlet will not due. It requires at least a Porter Port Hubbell based outlet to get the best power to your cleaner.  :rofl:  :rofl:
Title: Re: Another DIY Record Cleaner
Post by: BobM on November 09, 2012, 08:31:58 AM
Are you going to cryo it too?
Title: Re: Another DIY Record Cleaner
Post by: shadowlight on November 09, 2012, 08:56:11 AM
needs to be connected to a regenerated power with dedicated 20amp circuit.  is that mini shopvac quite enough if not it needs to be modified before it is ready  :rofl:

sorry could not resist  :-P
Title: Re: Another DIY Record Cleaner
Post by: eleazar on November 09, 2012, 02:43:30 PM
(http://img526.imageshack.us/img526/57/40a07217233c9a4de35c4e9.jpg)

It's already to be powered up :thumb:

Man this whole project is awesome. I wish I had these DIY skills.

One other thing though. That stock outlet will not due. It requires at least a Porter Port Hubbell based outlet to get the best power to your cleaner.  :rofl:  :rofl:

This is not as hard as you might think. In the end it should cost $70 or less. Jump in with both feet and give it a try you just might surprise yourself.
Title: Re: Another DIY Record Cleaner
Post by: richidoo on November 09, 2012, 06:27:07 PM
Did you try it yet Bill? Video? and don't edit out the swearing. ;)
Title: Re: Another DIY Record Cleaner
Post by: eleazar on November 10, 2012, 05:05:32 AM
Did you try it yet Bill? Video? and don't edit out the swearing. ;)

Yes I did Rich with a beat up LP to see how it sucked water off.
It did just fine. I need to put velvet on the wand and make some sort of weight to hold the LP down.
Now can you help the technically challenged how do I do a video ?? I'll ask my daughter see's pretty good with that kinda stuff.
Title: Re: Another DIY Record Cleaner
Post by: richidoo on November 10, 2012, 06:32:12 AM
Damned if I know...

Congrats!
Title: Re: Another DIY Record Cleaner
Post by: djdube525 on November 10, 2012, 02:13:47 PM
how do I do a video

As in where to store it? You can create your own channel/account on youtube, post it there and then put a link here...

Is that what you were asking?

Dave
Title: Re: Another DIY Record Cleaner
Post by: eleazar on November 10, 2012, 02:49:49 PM
how do I do a video

As in where to store it? You can create your own channel/account on youtube, post it there and then put a link here...

Is that what you were asking?

Dave

My wife tells me my daughter can handle it. All I have to do is get a 22 year old to stay in one place long enough to help me.  :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
Title: Re: Another DIY Record Cleaner
Post by: djdube525 on November 10, 2012, 04:10:36 PM
Good luck w/that.  :lol:
Title: Re: Another DIY Record Cleaner
Post by: tmazz on November 11, 2012, 05:46:03 AM
In my house technical questions like that don't get referred to the CIO, but rather the TIO (Teenage Information Officer).  :rofl:
Title: Re: Another DIY Record Cleaner
Post by: eleazar on November 11, 2012, 12:13:48 PM
Pumpkinman's DIY Record Cleaner (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pvF4aBLAn2Q#ws)
Title: Re: Another DIY Record Cleaner
Post by: shadowlight on November 11, 2012, 03:54:04 PM
So how does it sound after cleaning.
Title: Re: Another DIY Record Cleaner
Post by: eleazar on November 11, 2012, 04:00:22 PM
So how does it sound after cleaning.

No diff. than if it was cleaned on my VPI  :thumb:
Title: Re: Another DIY Record Cleaner
Post by: StereoNut on November 11, 2012, 04:52:45 PM
So how does it sound after cleaning.

No diff. than if it was cleaned on my VPI  :thumb:

Niiiiiiiice!  I'm impressed with your ingenuity.  BTW - Love the video, Bill! :thumb:
Title: Re: Another DIY Record Cleaner
Post by: richidoo on November 11, 2012, 05:53:31 PM
Awesome!!! That rocks! Thanks for the video Bill!

Title: Re: Another DIY Record Cleaner
Post by: AcidJazz on November 11, 2012, 06:41:30 PM
Congrats on the inventiveness Bill, right down to the retro 'knob on the steering wheel' thingy.  :thumb:
Title: Re: Another DIY Record Cleaner
Post by: eleazar on November 11, 2012, 06:50:10 PM
Ha ha you mean the little glass knob it's actually very old. It came off a pair of old inside window shutters. I found in a box of odds and ends. I must say it was a fun project
Title: Re: Another DIY Record Cleaner
Post by: eleazar on November 12, 2012, 04:19:00 PM

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Title: Re: Another DIY Record Cleaner
Post by: BobM on November 12, 2012, 04:56:08 PM
Just out of curiosity ... you have a VPI cleaner, so why did you undertake this project? Just because you could?

Title: Re: Another DIY Record Cleaner
Post by: richidoo on November 12, 2012, 05:23:38 PM
For irony you can store the VPI in the cabinet below. haha
Title: Re: Another DIY Record Cleaner
Post by: eleazar on November 12, 2012, 06:23:18 PM
Just out of curiosity ... you have a VPI cleaner, so why did you undertake this project? Just because you could?



A friend is getting into vinyl for the first time it's for him.
He is coming by on Saturday to pick it up.
Title: Re: Another DIY Record Cleaner
Post by: StereoNut on November 12, 2012, 07:37:26 PM
Just out of curiosity ... you have a VPI cleaner, so why did you undertake this project? Just because you could?



A friend is getting into vinyl for the first time it's for him.
He is coming by on Saturday to pick it up.

Awwwwww... you shouldn't have, Bill!  It's what I always wanted. ;)
Title: Re: Another DIY Record Cleaner
Post by: lonewolfny42 on November 12, 2012, 07:47:43 PM
Good work Bill..... :beer:
Title: Re: Another DIY Record Cleaner
Post by: eleazar on November 13, 2012, 02:54:11 AM
Just out of curiosity ... you have a VPI cleaner, so why did you undertake this project? Just because you could?



A friend is getting into vinyl for the first time it's for him.
He is coming by on Saturday to pick it up.

Awwwwww... you shouldn't have, Bill!  It's what I always wanted. ;)

I know we have the same first name and we both have those devilish good looks but I'm sorry to say its for another friend. :lol:
Title: Re: Another DIY Record Cleaner
Post by: StereoNut on November 13, 2012, 05:27:46 AM
Just out of curiosity ... you have a VPI cleaner, so why did you undertake this project? Just because you could?



A friend is getting into vinyl for the first time it's for him.
He is coming by on Saturday to pick it up.

Awwwwww... you shouldn't have, Bill!  It's what I always wanted. ;)

I know we have the same first name and we both have those devilish good looks but I'm sorry to say its for another friend. :lol:

 :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: Waaaaaaaaaaahhhhh!!!!! :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry:
Title: Re: Another DIY Record Cleaner
Post by: etcarroll on November 16, 2012, 10:20:46 AM
Now that's funny.

To bad rednecks don't get irony.

For irony you can store the VPI in the cabinet below. haha