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Electro Stimulation Ward => Signals and Noise => Power Cables => Topic started by: jimbones on May 06, 2021, 04:04:12 PM

Title: Super Nova, no not that one
Post by: jimbones on May 06, 2021, 04:04:12 PM
Has anyone seen this cable yet, looks interesting. Does ifi have a good track record of putting out products that do what they say?

https://ifi-audio.com/products/supanova/

Thoughts?
Title: Re: Super Nova, no not that one
Post by: Nick B on May 06, 2021, 08:59:03 PM
Nope, brand new to me. Have heard of them and appears they have a reputation for making good products.
Title: Re: Super Nova, no not that one
Post by: mikeeastman on May 07, 2021, 01:09:16 PM
I tried 3 of their products and in my system they either did nothing or made the sound worse.
Title: Re: Super Nova, no not that one
Post by: rollo on May 08, 2021, 09:54:36 AM
   Interesting design. However the proof of the pudding is listening after installed.

charles
Title: Re: Super Nova, no not that one
Post by: jimbones on May 08, 2021, 10:32:48 AM
exactly charles, interesting approach to their design.
Title: Re: Super Nova, no not that one
Post by: P.I. on May 09, 2021, 10:37:01 PM
   Interesting design. However the proof of the pudding is listening after installed.

charles
Yup.
Title: Re: Super Nova, no not that one
Post by: malloy on May 09, 2021, 11:36:01 PM
I tried 3 of their products and in my system they either did nothing or made the sound worse.

Interesting design to be sure. It reminds me of the Belden Iconoclast cable or the Nu-Force ones. But I am curious what products you tried that sounded bad. Dacs, power supplies, other cables?

Paul
Title: Re: Super Nova, no not that one
Post by: jimbones on May 10, 2021, 06:42:50 AM
I am intrigued. Even if I never get it, I hope it works as it could be a Godsend for some
Title: Re: Super Nova, no not that one
Post by: P.I. on May 10, 2021, 12:41:07 PM
I tried 3 of their products and in my system they either did nothing or made the sound worse.

Interesting design to be sure. It reminds me of the Belden Iconoclast cable or the Nu-Force ones. But I am curious what products you tried that sounded bad. Dacs, power supplies, other cables?

Paul
The problem with this is that of system synergy.  I tried some interconnects that sounded great in a friend's system that were absolute turds in mine.  That is part of the reason I make my own.  That and the education that goes along with experimentation.
Title: Re: Super Nova, no not that one
Post by: mikeeastman on May 14, 2021, 07:13:00 AM
Sorry I didn’t respond sooner, my internet was down.
It turn out it was only 2 of the ifii products, the usb3.0  and the itube2. The iusb3 did nothing and the itube2 sounded worse on all but one setting, don't remember which setting and that one did nothing.

I tried these on my old  system, I can’t try the tube2 agin because it is RCA and my systems inputs are either XLR or optical now. I will try the iusb3 in my bedroom system this weekend and see what it does.
Title: Re: Super Nova, no not that one
Post by: tmazz on May 14, 2021, 07:31:02 AM
The iUSB3 is one of those products that could very well do nothing for you. It is designed to address deficiencies in the USB interface in you DAC. But if you are lucky enough to have a good DAC that already properly address the issues that the ifi unit is designed to fix then by definition it will have nothing to do. So I would say if it did nothing for for you it does not indicate that the ifi is a bad product but rather that your DAC is a good one.

It is kind of like the new products that ifi that eliminate ground loops and block DC on you AC inputs. If you don't have either of these conditions in your system both products will appear to do nothing  when in fact the issued would be that they could not fix a problem that you did not have before adding these components.
Title: Re: Super Nova, no not that one
Post by: rollo on May 14, 2021, 07:45:25 AM
Sorry I didn’t respond sooner, my internet was down.
It turn out it was only 2 of the ifii products, the usb3.0  and the itube2. The iusb3 did nothing and the itube2 sounded worse on all but one setting, don't remember which setting and that one did nothing.

I tried these on my old  system, I can’t try the tube2 agin because it is RCA and my systems inputs are either XLR or optical now. I will try the iusb3 in my bedroom system this weekend and see what it does.

  Think about the Innuos Phoenix re-clocker. VG upgrade.


charles
Title: Re: Super Nova, no not that one
Post by: mikeeastman on May 14, 2021, 09:24:09 AM
As the dac in my bedroom system is much better than the one I originally tested it on I won’t bother trying it.

Another maker of fix it gear told me the same thing that if the gear is made right then none of the fix it gear will have any effect.
Title: Re: Super Nova, no not that one
Post by: jimbones on May 14, 2021, 09:25:10 AM
My need for the noise reduction may be OBE. The reason I needed it was that the power amp I was using seemed sensitive to noise (EMI/RFI).
However a deal fell in my lap for an SPL Performer s800. The SN specs on the amp are very good so I am taking delivery next week.
Title: Re: Super Nova, no not that one
Post by: Nick B on May 14, 2021, 07:03:57 PM
My need for the noise reduction may be OBE. The reason I needed it was that the power amp I was using seemed sensitive to noise (EMI/RFI).
However a deal fell in my lap for an SPL Performer s800. The SN specs on the amp are very good so I am taking delivery next week.

I hadn’t heard of this amp before and looked it up today. Any comments/thoughts you’d care to share?
Title: Re: Super Nova, no not that one
Post by: jimbones on May 15, 2021, 06:32:13 AM
My need for the noise reduction may be OBE. The reason I needed it was that the power amp I was using seemed sensitive to noise (EMI/RFI).
However a deal fell in my lap for an SPL Performer s800. The SN specs on the amp are very good so I am taking delivery next week.

I hadn’t heard of this amp before and looked it up today. Any comments/thoughts you’d care to share?

The amp is class AB in a small chassis weighing only 28 lbs, 10x4x14. It puts out 285 wpc into 4 ohms. This is unusually small for such power output.
It uses proprietary input op amps that work on a full 120 voltage swing. The claim is great dynamic range and sweet mids and highs. The company builds in DC and thermal protection. The company makes studio equipment and I figured since they have a lot of experience on the recording side they have ears (maybe) Equipment is manufactured in Germany. Seems high quality.
Title: Re: Super Nova, no not that one
Post by: Nick B on May 15, 2021, 08:51:25 AM
My need for the noise reduction may be OBE. The reason I needed it was that the power amp I was using seemed sensitive to noise (EMI/RFI).
However a deal fell in my lap for an SPL Performer s800. The SN specs on the amp are very good so I am taking delivery next week.

I hadn’t heard of this amp before and looked it up today. Any comments/thoughts you’d care to share?

The amp is class AB in a small chassis weighing only 28 lbs, 10x4x14. It puts out 285 wpc into 4 ohms. This is unusually small for such power output.
It uses proprietary input op amps that work on a full 120 voltage swing. The claim is great dynamic range and sweet mids and highs. The company builds in DC and thermal protection. The company makes studio equipment and I figured since they have a lot of experience on the recording side they have ears (maybe) Equipment is manufactured in Germany. Seems high quality.

Maybe you could post your impressions when you have some hours on it. A friend of mine from Las Vegas audio club days has Crown amps and a reviewer on Part-Time Audiophile mentioned he uses a pro dac called the Prism. Had never heard of that either.
Title: Re: Super Nova, no not that one
Post by: jimbones on May 15, 2021, 09:10:49 AM
I intend to do a write up, expecting it next week.
Title: Re: Super Nova, no not that one
Post by: Nick B on May 15, 2021, 09:15:41 AM
I intend to do a write up, expecting it next week.

Ah, that’s great  :thumb:
Title: Re: Super Nova, no not that one
Post by: rollo on May 21, 2021, 10:52:08 AM
I intend to do a write up, expecting it next week.

   With an input impedance of of 10K Ohms hope your preamp is less than 100Ohms output. Usually a minimum of 10x output. SN ratio is excellent as well as dynamic range and gain. Maybe hot at 26db you will find out.


charles
Title: Re: Super Nova, no not that one
Post by: jimbones on May 22, 2021, 07:19:44 AM
Charles the output impedance is very low as they are using a mosfet output stage to drive. I forget what the spec is but its something like 10 ohms. Yes the 10K input impedance is low. I am not having any issues there.
Title: Re: Super Nova, no not that one
Post by: rollo on May 22, 2021, 07:54:07 AM
Charles the output impedance is very low as they are using a mosfet output stage to drive. I forget what the spec is but its something like 10 ohms. Yes the 10K input impedance is low. I am not having any issues there.


  Cool. Enjoy !!

charles