Toe In - Crossing In Front of the Listening Position

[bmr3hc]

Rich

Let me (us) know what you think of the Sheffield setup disc, when it arrives from Rollo. I will likely want to try it for my set up as well after I move next week.

I do plan to post some comments on the Ayre system enhancement CD that I got from a friend called, "Irrational But Efficacious". Done in collaboration with Cardas. Very effective for equipment break-in and "demagnetizing" your system for better sound.

Henry

[rollo]

Rich

Let me (us) know what you think of the Sheffield setup disc, when it arrives from Rollo. I will likely want to try it for my set up as well after I move next week.

I do plan to post some comments on the Ayre system enhancement CD that I got from a friend called, "Irrational But Efficacious". Done in collaboration with Cardas. Very effective for equipment break-in and "demagnetizing" your system for better sound.

Henry

 Have that disc as well. Really good break in tool. Demags quite well to boot. The Gryphon has a better effect but costs a bit more. For phono the ol Fluxbuster is still going strong.
  I'll get out the discs as soon as I can.


charles

[richidoo]

Truly a no brainer and easy to do with the wife or a buddy.

Is it really important which out of phase pink noise generator you use to implement that placement method?  I mean, any noise you can generate can be made out of phase at the speakers.

Hey Carl, you're gonna be my speaker sliding "buddy," so you need to improve your attitude about the magic speaker tweaking CD. 

[richidoo]

I will likely want to try it for my set up as well after I move next week.

Where you movin' chum?  New man cave in store?

[bmr3hc]

I will likely want to try it for my set up as well after I move next week.

Where you moving' chum?  New man cave in store?

Rich, I sent you a PM. As to the new man cave, lets just say the wife put her foot down on my having the master BR as the listening room! The family room too cut up with openings to work as well as the mbr. The other two BR too small. Guess I will be doing a lot of toe-in adjustments. But at least I will still have my toes and my wife.

Henry

[Bigfish8]

Guess I will be doing a lot of toe-in adjustments. But at least I will still have my toes and my wife.

Henry:

Trust me when I write that I understand your comment.   My wife does not share my appreciation of this hobby!  I think I have pushed her to the limit lately and I have to cool it for awhile!   Good luck with the toe adjustments.

Ken

[tmazz]

I think we are all in the same boat. According to my wife this isn't a hobby, it's a sickness

[Bob in St. Louis]

I think we are all in the same boat. According to my wife this isn't a hobby, it's a sickness

Yip..... ...... We should all be members of "AA".....Audiophiles Anonymous.

Bob

[shep]

It's never too soon...or too late
" I admit I am powerless over Audio and it has made my life unmanageable " 

[tmazz]

You too?

[rollo]

Truly a no brainer and easy to do with the wife or a buddy.

Is it really important which out of phase pink noise generator you use to implement that placement method?  I mean, any noise you can generate can be made out of phase at the speakers.

Hey Carl, you're gonna be my speaker sliding "buddy," so you need to improve your attitude about the magic speaker tweaking CD. 

 The advantage of the out of phase track is that a real person is talking. We have found that much easier to discern as opposed to just pink noise. No MAGIC just believe its very affective and easy.


charles

[shep]

You too?

Unquestionably.

[tmazz]

And dam proud of it 

[Barry (NJ)]

Rollo said...  Don't worry, we're listening...

But the magic disk doesn't move the heavy beasts for ya, it just rubs it in how wrong they are! haha   
Will your Sheffield phase trick work in a non-symmetric room shape? I have no right wall. 

Is this the disk you mean Charles?
http://www.amazon.com/Sheffield-Coustic-Set-Up-Test-Disc/dp/B00000J7TU/ref=pd_rhf_p_t_4
or one of these:
http://www.crutchfield.com/p_700CDSET/Autosound-2000-CD-Set.html?search=test+CD&ssi=0

A little off topic, but another magic test disk... Henry (bmr3hc) was telling me about his new Ayre break in disk a couple days ago with glowing testimony.
http://www.ayre.com/accessories.cfm?accessID=1

Rollo said...  Don't worry, we're listening...

But the magic disk doesn't move the heavy beasts for ya, it just rubs it in how wrong they are! haha   
Will your Sheffield phase trick work in a non-symmetric room shape? I have no right wall. 

Is this the disk you mean Charles?
http://www.amazon.com/Sheffield-Coustic-Set-Up-Test-Disc/dp/B00000J7TU/ref=pd_rhf_p_t_4
or one of these:
http://www.crutchfield.com/p_700CDSET/Autosound-2000-CD-Set.html?search=test+CD&ssi=0

A little off topic, but another magic test disk... Henry (bmr3hc) was telling me about his new Ayre break in disk a couple days ago with glowing testimony.
http://www.ayre.com/accessories.cfm?accessID=1

 Yes Rich works in any room. When you achieve getting the sound to be equally all around the room compared to the mono signal its quite easy. You then adjust the speaker on the side the signal is favoring. Adjust toe in and move speaker incrementally sideways ,back and forth until you hear it all around the room.
  Truly a no brainer and easy to do with the wife or a buddy. That disc cover does not look familiar, maybe a reissue not sure.


charles

Whoa!!! That Sheffield disc is pricey!!!

[StereoNut]

I don't know how many of you "Nervosians" have seen/heard anything on a specialized speaker placement set-up devised by Sumiko, called "The Master Set" (and no, I didn't compare who posted on this thread against the one below to document it) but I'd like to know if it relates in any way to using the Scheffield disk that Rollo recommends.

AudioNervosa link:
http://www.audionervosa.com/index.php?topic=1928.0

Audiocircle link 1:
http://www.audiocircle.com/index.php?topic=64321

Audiocircle link 2:
http://www.audiocircle.com/index.php?topic=65908.0

Audiogon Forum link:
http://forum.audiogon.com/cgi-bin/fr.pl?rspkr&1197744079

The Master Set method sounds very complicated vs. using the Scheffield disk... Comments?

Thanks!
SN