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Systemic Development => Psycho-Acoustics => Topic started by: jimbones on February 19, 2020, 10:51:38 AM
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Can you share your experiences with vibration control products? I was looking into modestly priced products such as Vibrapods. Thanks
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I had them at one point.They worked OK, but are not good at everything. Here's what I suggest.
Go to a sporting goods store (or Amazon.com) and buy some foam tennis balls. Cut them in half and try them under your components. Cheap squishy things.
Then buy some squash balls and try them. Cheap squishy roller things.
Then get some large steel ball bearings and try them. Cheap hard roller things.
Then get some hockey pucks. I think you may know what they are. Cheap hard things.
Find out which components like squishy, which like roller, which like hard and which like soft before spending money on anything more expensive. In my experience, tubes like soft & squishy. Turntables liked the squash balls. Transports, CD players and solid state prefer some version of hard isolation, some roller balls, others something else. And you can do it on the cheap to discover this. It's all trial and error anyway.
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I like the foam tennis ball idea. Never knew they made them from foam. Hockey pucks? No idea Lol!
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Vibrapods work o.k. but they will stain unless you put something like wax paper between them and wood shelves. You might want to see if Herbies has a product that will work just as well or better.
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They also have foam golf balls. I bought some to try out
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I grabbed a bunch of these (https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_trksid=m570.l1313&_nkw=mini+flying+disc+silicone&_sacat=0) to try.
If you sift through the various adds, you can find them for about $1.
Haven't tried them under equipment yet, but they fly well :D
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There are some other threads on this as well...
https://www.audionervosa.com/index.php?topic=3495
https://www.audionervosa.com/index.php?topic=1385
https://www.audionervosa.com/index.php?topic=5155
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I neglected to say that this is mainly for electronics, in this case a phonostage.
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If the phono stage does not have any damping material inside it, you can use either the coupling or decoupling. I have been using Tenderfeet (decoupling) for years under our Purity products.
If your phono stage already has damping material, I would stick with decoupling which I recommend for phono stages. I Would not mix decoupling (damping material) with coupling (cones and bearings).
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If the phono stage does not have any damping material inside it, you can use either the coupling or decoupling. I have been using Tenderfeet (decoupling) for years under our Purity products.
If your phono stage already has damping material, I would stick with decoupling which I recommend for phono stages. I Would not mix decoupling (damping material) with coupling (cones and bearings).
Good advice. Jim footers have different results in sonics. For a TT the most affective way of decoulping is a wood sandbox [ which you can make ] filled with Playsand and a wood plinth [ maple] sitting on sand. The sandbox shold be decoulped from shelf. I recommend Mapleshade cork and rubber footers for that. Make it you will be very happy.
charles
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If the phono stage does not have any damping material inside it, you can use either the coupling or decoupling. I have been using Tenderfeet (decoupling) for years under our Purity products.
If your phono stage already has damping material, I would stick with decoupling which I recommend for phono stages. I Would not mix decoupling (damping material) with coupling (cones and bearings).
My phonostage has the cheap rubber feet. Nothing special. I have the damping material can put on the inside of the case. That usually helps. Last night I put bubble wrap under it just to test it and it seemed to help so I will try both coupling and decoupling
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I think I've tried at least a dozen different vibration footers over the last 20-30 years and Vibrapods were certainly among them... likely one of the better bang for the buck options. I also tried a number of things from Herbies Audio Lab and a few home-grown solutions.
My most recent (and hopefully last) solution is from IsoAcoustics which has resulted in the greatest improvment by far. I've got their GAIA II footers under my speakers and their OREA Bronze isolaters under my integrated amps. Definitely pricier than the Vibrapods but I'm certain that the total cost of the IsoAcoustics was less than what I spent on all of the other footers I've tried combined.
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I had them at one point.They worked OK, but are not good at everything. Here's what I suggest.
Go to a sporting goods store (or Amazon.com) and buy some foam tennis balls. Cut them in half and try them under your components. Cheap squishy things.
Then buy some squash balls and try them. Cheap squishy roller things.
Then get some large steel ball bearings and try them. Cheap hard roller things.
Then get some hockey pucks. I think you may know what they are. Cheap hard things.
Find out which components like squishy, which like roller, which like hard and which like soft before spending money on anything more expensive. In my experience, tubes like soft & squishy. Turntables liked the squash balls. Transports, CD players and solid state prefer some version of hard isolation, some roller balls, others something else. And you can do it on the cheap to discover this. It's all trial and error anyway.
OK SO i bought some foam golf balls cut them in half flat side down and trying them now. Tough to tell but it doesnt sound like it harms the sound so I guess its OK
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Just received 2 sets of these.
Tertullus 4 Pcs Speaker Isolation Feet Anti Vibration Pads with Stainless Steel Ball Speaker Pad Stand 39mm×24mm Aluminum Absorb Shock for Audio Speaker Amplifier HiFi Equipments(Silver) https://a.co/d/gtrBkzU
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I think I've tried at least a dozen different vibration footers over the last 20-30 years and Vibrapods were certainly among them... likely one of the better bang for the buck options. I also tried a number of things from Herbies Audio Lab and a few home-grown solutions.
My most recent (and hopefully last) solution is from IsoAcoustics which has resulted in the greatest improvment by far. I've got their GAIA II footers under my speakers and their OREA Bronze isolaters under my integrated amps. Definitely pricier than the Vibrapods but I'm certain that the total cost of the IsoAcoustics was less than what I spent on all of the other footers I've tried combined.
+1 on the ISOs
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I think I've tried at least a dozen different vibration footers over the last 20-30 years and Vibrapods were certainly among them... likely one of the better bang for the buck options. I also tried a number of things from Herbies Audio Lab and a few home-grown solutions.
My most recent (and hopefully last) solution is from IsoAcoustics which has resulted in the greatest improvment by far. I've got their GAIA II footers under my speakers and their OREA Bronze isolaters under my integrated amps. Definitely pricier than the Vibrapods but I'm certain that the total cost of the IsoAcoustics was less than what I spent on all of the other footers I've tried combined.
+1 on the ISOs
The bargain hunter that I am, use this under my speakers and they work very well
https://a.co/d/1sZViJr
(https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/51R20oBlbUL._AC_SL1200_.jpg)
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I think I've tried at least a dozen different vibration footers over the last 20-30 years and Vibrapods were certainly among them... likely one of the better bang for the buck options. I also tried a number of things from Herbies Audio Lab and a few home-grown solutions.
My most recent (and hopefully last) solution is from IsoAcoustics which has resulted in the greatest improvment by far. I've got their GAIA II footers under my speakers and their OREA Bronze isolaters under my integrated amps. Definitely pricier than the Vibrapods but I'm certain that the total cost of the IsoAcoustics was less than what I spent on all of the other footers I've tried combined.
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I'm using GAIA 1. Never tried any other isolation footer though, so I have no basis for comparison as far as isolation footers are concerned.
However I can tell you that the isolation footers are light years better than the stock rubber feet and spikes that came with the speakers that I have. I would never ever use spikes again under any condition.
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I think I've tried at least a dozen different vibration footers over the last 20-30 years and Vibrapods were certainly among them... likely one of the better bang for the buck options. I also tried a number of things from Herbies Audio Lab and a few home-grown solutions.
My most recent (and hopefully last) solution is from IsoAcoustics which has resulted in the greatest improvment by far. I've got their GAIA II footers under my speakers and their OREA Bronze isolaters under my integrated amps. Definitely pricier than the Vibrapods but I'm certain that the total cost of the IsoAcoustics was less than what I spent on all of the other footers I've tried combined.
+1 on the ISOs
The bargain hunter that I am, use this under my speakers and they work very well
https://a.co/d/1sZViJr
(https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/51R20oBlbUL._AC_SL1200_.jpg)
Me too- I needed/wanted a bit more height, and these did the trick. Look good too.
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I found these recently...
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B091MCYJ7Z
they're a very low durometer silicon pad, and at $7.90/dozen, inexpensive enough to be worth a try :thumb:
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I found these recently...
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B091MCYJ7Z
they're a very low durometer silicon pad, and at $7.90/dozen, inexpensive enough to be worth a try :thumb:
Yep I used them under my amp then i switched to the cork and rubber isolation pads. They work well for door knobs also lol
These are the ones I bought.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B08CB1WPR1/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1
But now us these
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B076DGD3X2/?coliid=I3R2RRNEIWF8XI&colid=10V9U23RGC4OG&psc=1&ref_=lv_ov_lig_dp_it
and this under my amp stand
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07RHRXPSF/?coliid=IEXL5FOOHODF7&colid=10V9U23RGC4OG&psc=1&ref_=lv_ov_lig_dp_it.
No sound difference between any
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Over the past couple years, I have truly found that certain technologies do not work for all applications. It took us 3 years to find a form of decoupling to quiet down our Harmonia DHT preamp and output stage. We have tried several different materials and combinations. We have found only ONE that works in this particular application to rid the ringing that has been an issue with many DHT preamps. Only One.
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I’ve tried a lot of different things in tweaking the system.
Too many to discuss with no difference in performance.
Myrtle wood was the first to show improvement. BDR cones
and pucks were next with more improvement. Tried VooDo Iso-pods
and under the pre and cdp made a significant improvement. Now have
thee sets under cdp, pre and amp. While not cheap they aren’t that expensive.
You can try them through the cable company.
Don
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But now us these
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B076DGD3X2/?coliid=I3R2RRNEIWF8XI&colid=10V9U23RGC4OG&psc=1&ref_=lv_ov_lig_dp_it
MUCH cheaper at Supply House:
https://www.supplyhouse.com/DiversiTech-MP-2C-Rubber-Cork-Anti-Vibration-Pad-2-x-2-x-7-8
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But now us these
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B076DGD3X2/?coliid=I3R2RRNEIWF8XI&colid=10V9U23RGC4OG&psc=1&ref_=lv_ov_lig_dp_it
MUCH cheaper at Supply House:
https://www.supplyhouse.com/DiversiTech-MP-2C-Rubber-Cork-Anti-Vibration-Pad-2-x-2-x-7-8
But now us these
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B076DGD3X2/?coliid=I3R2RRNEIWF8XI&colid=10V9U23RGC4OG&psc=1&ref_=lv_ov_lig_dp_it
MUCH cheaper at Supply House:
https://www.supplyhouse.com/DiversiTech-MP-2C-Rubber-Cork-Anti-Vibration-Pad-2-x-2-x-7-8
Yes but you have to add shipping
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Yes but you have to add shipping
Just checked and they don't gouge, so still half the price, but not a bank breaker either way ;)
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The Gaia footers have measured results. Not cheap but well engineered for their purpose. The best we have ever experienced, period. Not a Dealer for them
charles
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The Gaia footers have measured results. Not cheap but well engineered for their purpose. The best we have ever experienced, period. Not a Dealer for them
charles
I'm curious as to what they measure, is this published anywhere?
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The Gaia footers have measured results. Not cheap but well engineered for their purpose. The best we have ever experienced, period. Not a Dealer for them
charles
I'm curious as to what they measure, is this published anywhere?
I saw them on FB. I believe it is on their website. Was vibration test of some kind.
charles