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Systemic Development => Speakers => Topic started by: Christof on March 30, 2007, 12:42:23 PM
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I just switched out a pair of Abby with farfield drivers for a pair of SP Tech Timepiece 2.1's. I need to live with them a bit before I feel comfortable posting a review but I will say that in the 2 days that I've had them in my system I am absolutely amazed. These are Apples to Oranges with the Abby's so it is not fair to make comparisons b/t the two however I will say that my system has been taken to a new level.
Any other SP Tech owners here?
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Double Ugly will be along any minute now..... :D
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Double Ugly will be along any minute now..... :D
He's not the only one John.... :lol:
They REALLY are great speakers !!!
Chris.....You have the perfect room.....big.....because they project a big sound....and oh, that bass....nice. I hope you play them for others to hear....because very few have heard them. Enjoy !!!! :wink:
Chris
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Double Ugly will be along any minute now..... :D
I might know someone who owns a pair...or two. :oops:
Congrats, Chris. I'm sure they're going to make you happy for years to come. I know my search has ended.
-Jim
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I might know someone who owns a pair...or two.
Gonna be three pairs soon....right Jim ? 8)
A few "inaccuracies" concerning the TP's :
Their bookshelf speakers .....right ?
I wonder if they can play loud and not fall apart ?
Narrow sound stage....right ?
Guess you need a sub for better bass ?
Chris......any comments on the above ?
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I might know someone who owns a pair...or two.
Gonna be three pairs soon....right Jim ? 8)
Yep! :D
A few "inaccuracies" concerning the TP's :
Their bookshelf speakers .....right ?
I guess that would depend on the size of your bookshelves. :lol:
I wonder if they can play loud and not fall apart ?
:D
Narrow sound stage....right ?
Riiiiiiiiiiight.
Guess you need a sub for better bass ?
Only in a concert hall... or maybe a room as gigantic as Chris'.
It really will be interesting to see how they work in a room that large. They will fill an 'average' size room w/ ease IME, but Chris' situation may necessitate one (or two :shock:) of Bob's new subwoofers.
THAT I'd like to hear! :D
Chris......any comments on the above ?
Yeah, whaddaya have to say, Chris? Are Wolfy and I nuts?
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Those new crossover networks look HUGE. Are they mounted external to the cabinet? Wow.
WEEZ!
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Those new crossover networks look HUGE. Are they mounted external to the cabinet? Wow.
WEEZ!
Bob will provide external crossovers if requested, but the standard configuration is internal. Their size just might be part of the reason these 'bookshelf' speakers are larger than some floorstanders. :lol:
What's so cool to me is that I can't hear the crossover at all. I seem to be particularly sensitive to them - usually I can even detect crossovers referred to as small or simple - and the fact that I couldn't hear something that big was very surprising.
-Jim
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DU,
Yup. Crossovers make or break a speaker. I just couldn't get over the size of those caps and that big ass inductor :shock: Holy sh*t.
:)
WEEZ
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Don....
Have you heard any SP Tech speakers ?
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DU,
Yup. Crossovers make or break a speaker. I just couldn't get over the size of those caps and that big ass inductor :shock: Holy sh*t.
:)
WEEZ
Ha! If you think the size of the crossovers is amazing, you ought to come down sometime and hear them!
You're just a 5-hour drive away from sonic paradise... :wink:
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I might know someone who owns a pair...or two.
Gonna be three pairs soon....right Jim ? 8)
A few "inaccuracies" concerning the TP's :
Their bookshelf speakers .....right ?
I wonder if they can play loud and not fall apart ?
Narrow sound stage....right ?
Guess you need a sub for better bass ?
Chris......any comments on the above ?
I'm still getting to know my new Timepiece speakers so I can't really comment too much on the sound yet. In addition, I have replaced almost every component in my system in the last couple mos so it's hard to tell what is doing what but I must say I have some serious synergy going on.
In a nut shell, the Timepieces exceed my expectations. I have a very large open room and the Timepieces do a fantastic job filling this space. They certainly push the envelope for bieng called "bookshelf", if you would even call them that. Aligning them onto stands borders on a two person operation. As for Bass, I must confess I do long a little bit for bass down to the high teens but it is unrealistic to expect these speaker to deliver that, especially given my room size. The Timepieces do a fantastic job at cleanly reproducing bass down to what I feel must be 25ish in my room and the Seas Aluminum driver rolls off nice and gracefully. I do think SP Tech has com up with a solution for those of us who want to feel 19Hz without getting into Revelation prices and I very well might jump on one of those monster subs in the near future but for now I feel quite content.
I feel that the price of the Timepieces is very fair and I can say honestly that this is one of two audio purchases I made in my life where I'm not walking away with even a hint of buyers remorse (amplifiers from Odyssey being the other).
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Thanks Chris.....now to work on the speaker cables and interconnects....they DO make a difference. Happy listening..... :wink:
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LW,
Nope. But as DU says, I'm a 5+ hour drive away from the opportunity, which I might do in the near future. :)
WEEZ
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LW,
Nope. But as DU says, I'm a 5+ hour drive away from the opportunity, which I might do in the near future. :)
WEEZ
That sounds good Don !! Jim has a very fine system....will show off the SP Tech's well.
Chris
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I'm surprised Carl hasn't weighed in yet. IIRC, he had a pair of SP's briefly, and really liked them. I didn't get over there to hear them before he switched to Piega's.
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I had a pair with a defective crossover part... so, what I heard isn't representative.... I also think they were too big for my room. I felt that a room with a 15' to 20' width is probably the right amount of space for the Timepieces... I currently have 11. :(
I heard them in NY at Daniel's and enjoyed them... but that was almost 2 years ago. So, not much to report, unfortunately.
-C
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I had a pair with a defective crossover part... so, what I heard isn't representative.... I also think they were too big for my room. I felt that a room with a 15' to 20' width is probably the right amount of space for the Timepieces... I currently have 11. :(
I heard them in NY at Daniel's and enjoyed them... but that was almost 2 years ago. So, not much to report, unfortunately.
-C
My Timepiece 2.1s were delivered with the same issue Carl referenced above. Though I'm probably the most active, vocal and loyal SP Tech advocate you'll find, I almost returned my Timepiece 2.1s after a couple of weeks. For those who don't know me very well, that was a *HUGE* near-event, and I don't think I've ever been more disappointed with anything audio related than I was those speakers.
I tried every trick in the book available to me at the time to make them listenable, but the best I got wasn't nearly good enough. I finally contacted Bob and told him he had two options; figure out what was wrong and fix it, or refund my money after taking receipt of my speakers. Luckily for me, he chose the latter.
My Timepieces are everything Bob said they would be, and it's too bad Carl and a few others who heard the demo speakers weren't able to enjoy a properly constructed pair. That's not to say or even imply they would've liked them - to each his own - but the audition tour turned out to be a terrible waste of time and effort. Bob has only himself to blame for that, and he'll be the first to admit it.
FWIW...
-Jim
PS - My room is only 13'x19', and there are folks who enjoy their Timepieces in rooms quite a bit smaller. I think the desire to be farther away from the horrible sound coming from Carl's speakers may have led him to believe their room size requirement is larger than a 'corrected' pair actually needs. My listening distance is 12'-15', and I couldn't get far enough away from the 'uncorrected' pair to save my life. :wink:
Don't think the wink means it isn't true. It is, as my wife can verify. What a miserable 3 weeks that was. :(
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Well, I guess I'll find out soon what all the hoopla is about as I just sent Bob a deposit on the Timepieces
(with the old standard finsh). He'll get started next week. :D
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:lol:
Your post cracked me up, Jim... I definitely didn't want to go into my sound room during the TP's visit. Bob offered to send me another pair but I'd already found a deal on a pair or Piega's that I didn't want to miss.
I didn't realize the issue completely altered the sound of the speaker... I mean, the bass blew me out of the room. I must have had a 30db peak at 30-40 Hz. The mids and highs were hard and honky (which is where I thought the defect announced itself) but the bass is what led me to believe they needed a bigger room.
-C
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I didn't realize the issue completely altered the sound of the speaker... I mean, the bass blew me out of the room. I must have had a 30db peak at 30-40 Hz. The mids and highs were hard and honky (which is where I thought the defect announced itself) but the bass is what led me to believe they needed a bigger room.
Yes, one aspect of the correction changed the sound from top to bottom. Even so, the mids and highs were so bad that I really didn't notice much about the bass. 'Course, we're most sensitive to the mids, and their near complete absence of anything resembling organic had me dumbfounded... and climbing the walls.
That said, there may have been a room/speaker issue. Bob is very, very careful about the frequency response being linear (a foundation of his design approach), but who's to say what the 'uncorrected' speakers were doing. All I can say for sure is that they were doing it badly! :(
Conversely, Nick...
Well, I guess I'll find out soon what all the hoopla is about as I just sent Bob a deposit on the Timepieces
(with the old standard finsh). He'll get started next week. :D
...is gonna be wearing a big smile for at least a month! :D
-Jim