AudioNervosa

Systemic Development => Bipolar System Disorders => Topic started by: Bemopti123 on April 07, 2007, 04:38:44 PM

Title: Am I an equipment hoarder or a music lover?
Post by: Bemopti123 on April 07, 2007, 04:38:44 PM
After about 9 years of somewhat serious addiction, I have the following in the list...

4 pairs of speakers (3 commercial and 1 DIY)
5 amplification sources (1 rebuilt vintage receiver+4 types of amplifiers)
5 preamplifiers (1 tubed and 4 SS, one of them being a TVC)
2 tape decks
1 tuner
2 turntables
1 subwoofer
2 extra pair of fullrange drivers, raw
1 CDP transport
2 outboard DACs

and

XX numbers of DVD players...

For what I read, there are people who are in between equipment hoarders as well as music lovers.  

What are you?  I wonder if I have some sort of compulsive impulsive disorder or I am just pretending to be a music lover.  

PS:  I do like my music well served and kicking, be it through SS or Tube.
Title: Am I an equipment hoarder or a music lover?
Post by: WEEZ on April 07, 2007, 05:45:55 PM
You have the disease, man.

I've just got one main system. The other 'odds and ends' are used to augment my (er, my wife's) television. That doesn't count. :)

WEEZ
Title: Am I an equipment hoarder or a music lover?
Post by: Bemopti123 on April 07, 2007, 08:36:56 PM
Gosh, my worst fears are confirmed!  Be darned with sense, cause most of the equipment, if I put them in sale will fetch interest by either the hoards of tirekickers in AudioGon or people who want celestial manna for the price of cheap moonshine.   :D
Title: Am I an equipment hoarder or a music lover?
Post by: opnly bafld on April 07, 2007, 09:30:37 PM
3 pairs of real speakers
3 pairs of diy single driver speakers
4 subwoofers- 2 mono/2 stereo
3 preamps- 2 tube/1 ss
4 amps-2 ss stereo-1 pair tube/fet mono-1 tube set stereo
2 tube integrated amps-1 set/1 sep
3 CD players
1 DVD/CD player

I really do love music though, really!
NO HOME THEATRE and a 15+ year old 20" TV
I own about 7 DVDs (a couple have never been opened) and I don't recall ever renting a movie.

Lin
Title: Am I an equipment hoarder or a music lover?
Post by: stereofool on April 08, 2007, 06:16:45 AM
Rest easy...Bemopti123...you are NOT alone  :shock: !

There are others out there with similar 'stockpiles'. I agree with you, in that all of my 'toys' (currently in use or storage) are all paid for, and I would get next to nothing out of them by selling...go figure  :roll: .

In house: 6 pairs of speakers
Stored: 5 pairs of speakers

In house: 2 subwoofers

In house: 6 amplifiers
Stored: 5 amplifiers

In house: 1 pre-amp & 1 phono pre-amp
Stored: 2 pre-amps

In house: 1 turntable
Stored: 3 turntables

In house: 3 AV pre-amp/processors

In house: 2 DVD players
Stored: 2 DVD players

In house: 1 Laserdisc player
Stored: 1 Laserdisc player

Stored: 1 DAC

Lots & lots of cables
Title: Am I an equipment hoarder or a music lover?
Post by: Carlman on April 08, 2007, 12:47:57 PM
Don't forget the tube-tester, Steve... I mean... don't want to leave out directly-audio-related stuff now do we?   :lol:

I have to admit, I've always been into it for the 'solution'... which means, I find GEAR that fixes a problem... or rather it produces a musically entertaining experience... and then I refine that to a higher level... (rinse and repeat to infinity)

I like both but I think if I stepped back, objectively I'd say I'm more into the gear.  There is nothing more frustrating to me than using trial and error to find a solution.  I think there should be a science to system synergy.  And I've spent the last 5 years heavily dedicated to finding formulas that work most of the time.  However, the more I learn, the more I don't know. :(  I've actually gotten more into the music since I bought the McIntosh gear.  I'm ready to start appreciating music more than gear now since the battle to find these 'formulas' wasn't working the way I'd hoped.  I'm also just enjoying the community of the hobby... (hence, this forum)

So, that's me.  

-C
Title: Am I an equipment hoarder or a music lover?
Post by: richidoo on April 08, 2007, 01:39:56 PM
I only have one system. It started out simple enough in Nov '05, with speakers, an integrated amp and a SB. I planned carefully and was very happy right from the beginning. I tweek it a little here and there as budget allows and my ears demand. I have a TV with mid fi surround like WEEZ, and a small stereo rig on my desk.

Lately I have been "tweeking" a lot more. Partly due to meeting more local audiophiles who have inspired and helped me to improve my system, but I think the biggest injury to my humble and grateful attitude came when I heard ARC Reference components recently. Like the girl said, "I never knew it could be so good!" So now I have a real problem. Audiophile Anonymous, here I come. I have a 5 year plan to get to Ref 3, Ref 210 and appropriate supporting ancillaries. I intend to sell off what I replace, but so far I am pretending I'm too lazy to box it up - or something like that. ;)  A man never forgets his first tube amp, why sell it?
Rich
Title: Am I an equipment hoarder or a music lover?
Post by: stereofool on April 08, 2007, 02:26:36 PM
Quote from: Carlman
Don't forget the tube-tester, Steve... I mean... don't want to leave out directly-audio-related stuff now do we?   :lol:

Actually....Carl...make that 2 tube testers  :lol: !

Plus...I'm sure there is stuff that I've even forgotten that I have  :roll: !
Title: Am I an equipment hoarder or a music lover?
Post by: Bemopti123 on April 08, 2007, 06:50:27 PM
Quote from: "stereofool"
Rest easy...Bemopti123...you are NOT alone  :shock: !

There are others out there with similar 'stockpiles'. I agree with you, in that all of my 'toys' (currently in use or storage) are all paid for, and I would get next to nothing out of them by selling...go figure  :roll: .


Stored: 5 pairs of speakers
Stored: 5 amplifiers
Stored: 2 pre-amps
Stored: 3 turntables
Stored: 2 DVD players
Stored: 1 Laserdisc player
Stored: 1 DAC

Lots & lots of cables

Wow....Now, if the equipment were people, you could charge them rent for occupying space, especially here in NYC.  

I have had all of the equipment I listed, when I was living with my wife, my 1 1/2 year old son, my father, my dog (70 lbs+) in a 1 bedroom apartment, before I moved to an actual house with an attic, a 2 car garage, a junkyard (ahem) yard and 3 bedrooms.  

I think someday, I will be forced to move to larger quarters as a treatment for this AudioNervosa I suffer from.  

PS:  I also have a Laserdisc player....why in heavens I bought it when DVD was coming out,  do not know.  

PS2:  Did I mention that I had a pair of Infinity Kappa 9s circa 1989 mint parked in a pair of boxes in my mom's place in Atlanta?  Lets not even go there :twisted:
Title: Am I an equipment hoarder or a music lover?
Post by: shep on April 09, 2007, 02:32:30 AM
I'm the "healthiest" among you lot! I have exactly only one of everything.
I guess I don't qualify for Audiophile anon. (that's not what my greedy head tells me)
Title: Am I an equipment hoarder or a music lover?
Post by: Bemopti123 on April 09, 2007, 07:34:05 AM
Quote from: "shep"
I'm the "healthiest" among you lot! I have exactly only one of everything.
I guess I don't qualify for Audiophile anon. (that's not what my greedy head tells me)

HEHEHEHE...stay away from those who have the Nervosa, you will sure to be contaminated.  Even the act that you are writing and posting on Audio at sites such as this or the Circle....it tells me that you are in the first stages of Nervosa.  May "G-d have mercy on your soul!"   :twisted:
Title: Am I an equipment hoarder or a music lover?
Post by: opnly bafld on April 09, 2007, 08:02:39 AM
Quote from: "Bemopti123"
Quote from: "shep"
I'm the "healthiest" among you lot! I have exactly only one of everything.
I guess I don't qualify for Audiophile anon. (that's not what my greedy head tells me)

HEHEHEHE...stay away from those who have the Nervosa, you will sure to be contaminated.  Even the act that you are writing and posting on Audio at sites such as this or the Circle....it tells me that you are in the first stages of Nervosa.  May "G-d have mercy on your soul!"   :twisted:

That is exactly what happened to me, I always had just 1 main system and off and on had a bedroom system.
Then I started to read about all the fun toys on AC with used or direct prices, I inherited a second dedicated room and the floodgates opened.

Lin
Title: Am I an equipment hoarder or a music lover?
Post by: shep on April 09, 2007, 08:25:01 AM
Satan get thee behind me!....y'all just jealous of my self-control! :lol:
OK, but just cause it's y'all. I made a deal with myself years ago when I saw the floodgates open and the home for the bewildered beckoning:
So I never never buy something unless I can sell something. Simple, n'est ce pas. Guess why I'm tring to flog those DH lab IC's?
Title: Am I an equipment hoarder or a music lover?
Post by: richidoo on April 09, 2007, 09:42:00 AM
Shep, if you think you're not already infected, then the infection must have already spread to your brain. I'm so sorry. :cry:   Rolling opamps and patron of the audio arts is a sure sign you have been compromised.

... as if there was ever any question.   :wink:

Hiding the evidence is just a form of denial. You need to face you fate. "Give in to the Force. Let yourself go."

Hey, I never heard a frenchman say, "Y'all." That was cool!! Touche!
Title: Am I an equipment hoarder or a music lover?
Post by: shep on April 09, 2007, 10:47:31 AM
hey you burned my cover! Denial?  Who? lil ol me?
ps, ain't French :shock:  thought y'all knew. 10th generation white trash from the Carolina's on my pa's side and wierd stuff from ma. Left the states in 63'. Been in some form of denial or another ever since...
Title: I'm a collector......
Post by: Black Sand Cable on April 09, 2007, 12:12:17 PM
I have a hard time getting rid of stuff I come across and as a result I'm currently sitting on:

9 - Speakers (7 in use all in one HT system)
1 - Sub woofer (In use)
7 - Amps (3 in use)
3 - Receivers (1 in use)
1 - Tube Pre
3 - Universal Players (1 in use)
3 - Various wireless music systems (1 in use)

I'm a bad hoarder.....so bad in fact that two of the amps listed above have never even been hooked up! It's on my "To do" list but I never seem to find the time. I get a lot of people emailing me asking to swap gear for cords and more often than not, I agree as I find myself curious on trying out what they are offering.

I really enjoy trying out new gear and as a result my system is never the same and it's always changing. As I get older though moving 80 pound amps in and out of my system isn't as much fun as it use to be!

With the addition of my new speakers several sets of speakers are on the way out and also a few amps as my current set-up is not doing what I want it to do with the HT8's.....but that will be down the road as I tend to procrastinate when it comes time to sell something. I HATE with a passion selling stuff off as the days of people emailing an offer seem to be long gone. Now it's "what is your best price shipped to?" I always ignore those myself as the potential buyer is feeling me out with no commitment and for some reason I don't like that. I prefer actual offers even if they are low as it at least shows some level of interest.
Title: Am I an equipment hoarder or a music lover?
Post by: AcidJazz on April 09, 2007, 03:42:47 PM
Man... I certainly fit in here... having a hard time letting stuff go. Well, actually my digital camera broke some months ago, so until I get a new one I cannot post pics with any ads... so my selling side is kinda backed up.
I probably have over a dozen amps, about 8 preamps, 2dvd players, 2cd players, 2 turntables(+one that got broken in shipping), 3pairs of speakers, not counting my HT 7.1 set-up, plus a few pairs of drivers for DIY projects I never got to.
Most of those are budget or pro amps, no high end expensive stuff.
My apt space has shrunk considerably in the 5-6years since I moved in. Sometimes I feel like the stuff is squeezing me out of my apt. And of course my music collection keeps growing too. Help!  :oops:
Title: Am I an equipment hoarder or a music lover?
Post by: stereofool on April 09, 2007, 05:56:47 PM
BOY...you guys are making me feel MUCH better :wink: !

It's comforting to know that I am not the only one that seems to hang onto most of his equipment from prior systems, or parts of systems.
Title: Am I an equipment hoarder or a music lover?
Post by: jrebman on April 11, 2007, 05:47:31 AM
Man, I thought I had this thing under control and then I read this and was forced to write down my inventory and come to terms with it:

4 pairs of speakers
4 amps -- 1 vintage SS receiver, 1 SET, 1 vintage tube integrated, and pair of digital monoblocks
1 preamp
1 phono stage (under construction)
1 sub
1 digital EQ
2 turntables
1 cassette deck
2 open reel decks
1 vintage graphic EQ2 squeezeboxes
3 squeezebox power supplies
1 DVD/multiplayer
1 dedicated 1.2 TB music server
lots of wire, terminations, brass goodies, maple goodies, squishy goodies, and an ever-growing selection of NOS tubes.

... and if I listed everything that's been through here in the past 2 years I think I'd cry.

If it's any consolation, I am trying to pare this down to a sane level, and writing all this down sure helps with motivatiion for that... only 11 steps to go...

-- Jim