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Uptone Etheregen
« on: January 08, 2021, 08:27:49 AM »
   Anyone using one ? Stellar reviews cost $640.


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Re: Uptone Etheregen
« Reply #1 on: January 09, 2021, 02:47:57 AM »
Those reviews are most of the time a matter of listening with ones eyes.
Measurements prove it doesn't do anything useful as might be expected because ethernet ports are galvanic isolated by design.
 
https://www.audiosciencereview.com/forum/index.php?threads/uptone-audio-etherregen-switch-review.10232/

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Re: Uptone Etheregen
« Reply #2 on: January 10, 2021, 09:17:43 AM »
  Thanks Vincent. I cannot understand all the hype and over 2K sold. Makes me lose some respect for the reviewers.


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Re: Uptone Etheregen
« Reply #3 on: January 10, 2021, 12:02:22 PM »
Makes me lose some respect for the reviewers.

They do what they do, listening with their eyes.
Never heard of (or opposed to) unsighted testing
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blinded_experiment

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Re: Uptone Etheregen
« Reply #4 on: October 13, 2021, 08:30:32 AM »
For newbies, blinding only addresses a confound variable, not all variables by any means. As such, if testing for audio changes, simply blinding does not result in an accurate test, or results.

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Re: Uptone Etheregen
« Reply #5 on: October 13, 2021, 09:05:55 AM »
For newbies, blinding only addresses a confound variable, not all variables by any means. As such, if testing for audio changes, simply blinding does not result in an accurate test, or results.

cheers

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Blind testing is more trouble than it is worth.  Just close your eyes while someone makes (or doesn't) the change.  Besides, if we can't trust our ears we need to get a different hobby/diversion/obsession.
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Re: Uptone Etheregen
« Reply #6 on: October 13, 2021, 02:57:24 PM »
Blind testing is more trouble than it is worth.  Just close your eyes while someone makes (or doesn't) the change.  Besides, if we can't trust our ears we need to get a different hobby/diversion/obsession.
I have an unscientific test that I rather enjoy when it happens, and that is:  If you're listening to something you're well familiar with, and you LAUGH out loud and develop a huge smile on your face because you can't believe how good something sounds--you're going in the right direction.

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Re: Uptone Etheregen
« Reply #7 on: October 13, 2021, 06:31:24 PM »
For newbies, blinding only addresses a confound variable, not all variables by any means. As such, if testing for audio changes, simply blinding does not result in an accurate test, or results.

cheers

steve
Blind testing is more trouble than it is worth.  Just close your eyes while someone makes (or doesn't) the change.  Besides, if we can't trust our ears we need to get a different hobby/diversion/obsession.

I agree with you for the most part P.I. I think one difference is that being a circuit designer, I am always testing, over years, to make sure my conclusions are correct. DBTs are only poorly designed single events.

I even use different methods of listening and then see if the different methods correlate or if there is a difference/problem. I also use an individual or two to also verify my listening test results. As such, I am pretty confident of my conclusions.

True Audio, I agree and sometimes get misty eyed.

Cheers and thanks Gents.

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Re: Uptone Etheregen
« Reply #8 on: October 13, 2021, 08:10:23 PM »
Blind testing is more trouble than it is worth.  Just close your eyes while someone makes (or doesn't) the change.  Besides, if we can't trust our ears we need to get a different hobby/diversion/obsession.
I have an unscientific test that I rather enjoy when it happens, and that is:  If you're listening to something you're well familiar with, and you LAUGH out loud and develop a huge smile on your face because you can't believe how good something sounds--you're going in the right direction.
And there you have it!  :thumb:
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