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Offline Nick B

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Re: PREAMP - HEART of the SYSTEM
« Reply #15 on: January 24, 2019, 01:05:43 PM »
Geez, do you 2 need a room to have a slap fight?

I'd love to own any of these units, but being unemployed precludes any new purchases.


At least its light-hearted talk unlike the crazy stuff that I read occasionally on other forums  :roll:
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Re: PREAMP - HEART of the SYSTEM
« Reply #16 on: January 24, 2019, 01:10:44 PM »
. being unemployed precludes any new purchases.

That's not what the guy at the record store told me.... 8)
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Re: PREAMP - HEART of the SYSTEM
« Reply #17 on: January 24, 2019, 02:54:58 PM »
I'd sure love it if I was a retired CEO instead of a retired physics teacher... then I could justify a $26 000 preamp.  But I can't.  However,  I do have a world class unit, and they're  the mainstay of my systems... a pair of Dodds.   And I know a reviewer that just kicked his LIO pre aside and replaced it with a Dodd. 
How many top line units can be had for about $1200 used? 
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Re: PREAMP - HEART of the SYSTEM
« Reply #18 on: January 24, 2019, 03:53:13 PM »
Lamm would be better with a few modifications. Their potentiometers are trash, for example.


Really, stepped TKD  trash ? It is the whole sum of parts not one part. With no more than .03% distortion overall, that .03% must be the TKD then.  :duh BTW both Kondo and Audio Note use them as well.

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They are all stepped? If they are individual resistors thats ok. I thought they were regular pots (maybe with stepping) that have the old ring of plastic as all pots do.. not stepped attenuator.

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Re: PREAMP - HEART of the SYSTEM
« Reply #19 on: January 24, 2019, 04:05:41 PM »
I'm late to the party and I absolutely disagree.  POWER is the heart of the system.  Without power ya' got nuthin'!

The front end (preamp) is the brains of the system.

Just sayin".   :thumb:
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Re: PREAMP - HEART of the SYSTEM
« Reply #20 on: January 24, 2019, 04:08:13 PM »
I'd sure love it if I was a retired CEO instead of a retired physics teacher... then I could justify a $26 000 preamp.  But I can't.  However,  I do have a world class unit, and they're  the mainstay of my systems... a pair of Dodds.   And I know a reviewer that just kicked his LIO pre aside and replaced it with a Dodd. 
How many top line units can be had for about $1200 used?

I knew the Dodds had a great reputation, but yours is an additional endorsement. I dont think the Dodds are remote capable. Can you advise?
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Re: PREAMP - HEART of the SYSTEM
« Reply #21 on: January 24, 2019, 04:40:32 PM »
Interesting - so are you running a standalone pre on each channel?
And are your amps monoblocks?

Just curious.

EDIT: never mind, just read your equipment list and answered my own question - doh! :duh

Changed out amp and speakers in last year and happy with source gear, so pre amp may be next thing to change.

Once I'm employed of course.

And zip it Tom!

I'd sure love it if I was a retired CEO instead of a retired physics teacher... then I could justify a $26 000 preamp.  But I can't.  However,  I do have a world class unit, and they're  the mainstay of my systems... a pair of Dodds.   And I know a reviewer that just kicked his LIO pre aside and replaced it with a Dodd. 
How many top line units can be had for about $1200 used?
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Re: PREAMP - HEART of the SYSTEM
« Reply #22 on: January 24, 2019, 04:44:49 PM »
Yes, the Dodd preamps and battery buffer have a remote volume control.

I have both here.

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Re: PREAMP - HEART of the SYSTEM
« Reply #23 on: January 24, 2019, 04:52:50 PM »
My Dodd pre is awesome.  It is dead quiet (duh), transparent and extremely dynamic.  I've built and tried a dozen or so pres and this, along with my much modified Cary SL50B are stone winners when it comes to driving demanding amps.  My Dodd has a remote that is as good looking as the preamp.

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Re: PREAMP - HEART of the SYSTEM
« Reply #24 on: January 24, 2019, 08:48:27 PM »
Interesting - so are you running a standalone pre on each channel?
And are your amps monoblocks?

Just curious.

EDIT: never mind, just read your equipment list and answered my own question - doh! :duh

Changed out amp and speakers in last year and happy with source gear, so pre amp may be next thing to change.

Once I'm employed of course.

And zip it Tom!

I'd sure love it if I was a retired CEO instead of a retired physics teacher... then I could justify a $26 000 preamp.  But I can't.  However,  I do have a world class unit, and they're  the mainstay of my systems... a pair of Dodds.   And I know a reviewer that just kicked his LIO pre aside and replaced it with a Dodd. 
How many top line units can be had for about $1200 used?

Actually, ET, I have a Dodd preamp in each of two systems.  One in my main living room, and one in a smaller den/library.  One controls a Moscode 401HR and GR-Research LS9's and the other controls a Folsom (warm months) and Dodd 6L6GC amp (cold months) driving a pair of GR  X-Statiks
TT- Technics , Vyger  / Quintet Blue, Dyna 20x2, Blackbird
Phono pre- Dodd, , Jolida
Cables- Bolder, Wywires, TWL,
Speakers- LS-9, X-Static/GR-servo
Pre-Dodd
Amp- Moscode, Dodd, Folsom
P.I. Audio diffusers
DIY corner traps

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Re: PREAMP - HEART of the SYSTEM
« Reply #25 on: January 24, 2019, 09:21:36 PM »
Yes, the Dodd preamps and battery buffer have a remote volume control.

I have both here.

Thanks for that, Rich. Something to think about in the future, although my APR 204 is pretty good.
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Re: PREAMP - HEART of the SYSTEM
« Reply #26 on: January 25, 2019, 07:54:11 AM »
  I have two Dodd units one with 6H30 [1] and the other 12bh7 [1] I believe. Both excellent, I would sell if any interest. Miss Gary as well.
  Nick your correct the Audio Hungary APR204 is no slouch. The MM section alone is worth the price. Headphone amp as well. An overachiever for sure. Right up there with the big boys. It was my reference before Lamm bit me.


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Re: PREAMP - HEART of the SYSTEM
« Reply #27 on: January 25, 2019, 07:59:31 AM »
Geez, do you 2 need a room to have a slap fight?

I'd love to own any of these units, but being unemployed precludes any new purchases.

  Nah Pete and I just having some fun. He is a teaser and great friend. No harm.


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Re: PREAMP - HEART of the SYSTEM
« Reply #28 on: January 25, 2019, 10:55:04 AM »
I know that Charles, and for those maybe new to the forum, I've known Pete and Charles for some time and enjoyed both their company many times, and am a proud owner of TWL power cables.

I may have to visit with you one day Charles when I have the funds to upgrade my pre.

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Re: PREAMP - HEART of the SYSTEM
« Reply #29 on: January 25, 2019, 12:15:31 PM »
I know that Charles, and for those maybe new to the forum, I've known Pete and Charles for some time and enjoyed both their company many times, and am a proud owner of TWL power cables.

I may have to visit with you one day Charles when I have the funds to upgrade my pre.

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