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Offline Nick B

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Icepower 1200as amp
« on: July 07, 2018, 07:51:10 AM »
Some of you may know about my home renovation project.  The chaos of the last five to six weeks is pretty much under control, especially since I fired the contractor 👍
So, last night, with great anticipation, I got my system up and running again. The system consists of two new components........ an Icepower 1200as amp and Border Patrol SE dac. Iím also trying Garyís carbon fiber icís and his carbon fiber digital. Although it would have been interesting to put back the McCormack amp and just listen to the new Border Patrol dac and then change to the Ice amp,
I have too much going on and the process can get a bit tedious. I already got a flavor of that anyway before I started the home improvement project.
The new BP dac is wonderfully organic and beautifully resolving and Iím quite happy with it....thanks, Emil!
Now that Ice amp is a revelation! Iíve never heard Piano that well reproduced. Itís also lightning fast.
Music has a gorgeous texture and a very real presentation. Itís a substantial step up from my beloved McCormack.
After having said this, I donít like the amp.....because the left channel doesnít work 😭
When hooking up the left speaker ....last night at 1:00 am..... I noticed both left channel terminals were loose. It was easy removing the top plate and I hand tightened them. Problem resolved, or so I thought. I switched the LS 50s and that the speakers are fine. I then changed out Garyís icís and that didnít get the left channel to work either. Since it was 1:30 am, I just said screw it and listened to the right channel and it was very, very nice. Itís the best right channel presentation Iíve ever had 😳
Audio can be so annoying sometimes. It took me nearly 40 minutes last night to set up Roon core and the incredibly buggy Auralic Mini streamer to wifi. Then to have the left channel issue was so disappointing.
Iím hardly good at troubleshooting and have lots of touch up work to do as to painting. But maybe I can work on it later today. Iím pretty sure the Ice has auto sensing on off circuitry, so maybe thatís involved. Maybe Rich or Tom can comment on that.

ICEpower 1200as2 stereo amp
Audio Hungary APR 204 preamp
KEF LS 50 speakers
Border Patrol SE dac
Auralic Aries Mini
Roon & Tidal
Don Sachs phono
Basis Ovation turntable
Graham 1.5 T tonearm
AT-ML150 cartridge
PI Audio Uber
All cables by Gary A

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Re: Icepower 1200as amp
« Reply #1 on: July 07, 2018, 09:14:00 AM »
I think auto sense affects both channels simulaneously. It could be input if the speaker outputs are ok.

Make sure all the plug connectors are firmly plugged into the board. I would remove and replug each connector inspecting the pins. If its possible to remove the plugs easily.

Thats all I can think of right now. Glad you like the sound, of one hand clapping.  :?

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Re: Icepower 1200as amp
« Reply #2 on: July 07, 2018, 09:34:10 AM »
I think auto sense affects both channels simulaneously. It could be input if the speaker outputs are ok.

Make sure all the plug connectors are firmly plugged into the board. I would remove and replug each connector inspecting the pins. If its possible to remove the plugs easily.

Thats all I can think of right now. Glad you like the sound, of one hand clapping.  :?

I just glanced at the innards last night to tighten the binding posts. Did notice a pigtail plug and wondered what it was. Will take a look again later today.
ICEpower 1200as2 stereo amp
Audio Hungary APR 204 preamp
KEF LS 50 speakers
Border Patrol SE dac
Auralic Aries Mini
Roon & Tidal
Don Sachs phono
Basis Ovation turntable
Graham 1.5 T tonearm
AT-ML150 cartridge
PI Audio Uber
All cables by Gary A

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Re: Icepower 1200as amp
« Reply #3 on: July 07, 2018, 10:42:50 AM »
 Looks like "Murphy" is about. Probably something simple like an unplugged or loose connection. Did you try reversing channels ? Cables ?
Is this a manufactured commercial amp or a done in the Kitchen assembly ?


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Re: Icepower 1200as amp
« Reply #4 on: July 07, 2018, 01:34:24 PM »
Looks like "Murphy" is about. Probably something simple like an unplugged or loose connection. Did you try reversing channels ? Cables ?
Is this a manufactured commercial amp or a done in the Kitchen assembly ?


charles

Charles,
Murphy and I have become best buds over the years. This was done by an ACíer who sourced the modules. Thatís all I can reveal under fear of torture 😨 I bought it from our own TomS whoís already
emailed me with some tips. Richidoo has one of these amps as well. Havenít reversed channels yet. Switched to different icís last night.
Wife has given me food and bathroom breaks from my painting duties, but I should be able to fiddle with it in 3-4 hours
ICEpower 1200as2 stereo amp
Audio Hungary APR 204 preamp
KEF LS 50 speakers
Border Patrol SE dac
Auralic Aries Mini
Roon & Tidal
Don Sachs phono
Basis Ovation turntable
Graham 1.5 T tonearm
AT-ML150 cartridge
PI Audio Uber
All cables by Gary A

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Re: Icepower 1200as amp
« Reply #5 on: July 08, 2018, 08:39:20 AM »
Wife has given me food and bathroom breaks from my painting duties.....


Wow, you're a lucky guy. That's more than I got.  :lol:
Remember, it's all about the music........

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Re: Icepower 1200as amp
« Reply #6 on: July 08, 2018, 09:33:38 AM »
Wife has given me food and bathroom breaks from my painting duties.....


Wow, you're a lucky guy. That's more than I got.  :lol:

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ICEpower 1200as2 stereo amp
Audio Hungary APR 204 preamp
KEF LS 50 speakers
Border Patrol SE dac
Auralic Aries Mini
Roon & Tidal
Don Sachs phono
Basis Ovation turntable
Graham 1.5 T tonearm
AT-ML150 cartridge
PI Audio Uber
All cables by Gary A

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Re: Icepower 1200as amp
« Reply #7 on: July 08, 2018, 02:18:22 PM »
Per Tomís instructions, I cut away the shrink wrap (using my high precision surgical scissors) and then loosened and retightened the wires to the left channel binding posts. Nothing appeared loose or out of the ordinary, but that did the trick!
Played a few cuts and it sounded most superb. That Border Patrol dac and this new amp are a great match. Iíll do lots more listening tonight and Gary wants me to try a new ic, so thatíll be interesting.
Meantime, back to hanging paintings and more home improvement stuff 👷‍♂️
ICEpower 1200as2 stereo amp
Audio Hungary APR 204 preamp
KEF LS 50 speakers
Border Patrol SE dac
Auralic Aries Mini
Roon & Tidal
Don Sachs phono
Basis Ovation turntable
Graham 1.5 T tonearm
AT-ML150 cartridge
PI Audio Uber
All cables by Gary A

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Re: Icepower 1200as amp
« Reply #8 on: July 08, 2018, 09:43:53 PM »
Glad you fixed it!!

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Re: Icepower 1200as amp
« Reply #9 on: July 11, 2018, 03:20:55 PM »
Iím liking this amp a lot, but still need to dial in the location of the LS 50s again and play with the foam plugs. Also have to wait for the area rug to be delivered etc etc. So it will be a while til itís just right. The amp is lightning fast and faithfully honest. Maybe not for everybody. But I really enjoy it.
I will probably add a tube preamp anyway. And Tom got his with the rhodium goodies, so I am quite happy with the purchase.
ICEpower 1200as2 stereo amp
Audio Hungary APR 204 preamp
KEF LS 50 speakers
Border Patrol SE dac
Auralic Aries Mini
Roon & Tidal
Don Sachs phono
Basis Ovation turntable
Graham 1.5 T tonearm
AT-ML150 cartridge
PI Audio Uber
All cables by Gary A

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Re: Icepower 1200as amp
« Reply #10 on: July 11, 2018, 08:39:56 PM »
Glad you got it all working.

Does a Gary do great work or what!

NOS is where the music lives for over 98% of available software available.

DSD, high Rez, be damned.  It is all about the music and not the latest, greatest sterile sounding tech for this audio curmudgeon.


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Re: Icepower 1200as amp
« Reply #11 on: July 11, 2018, 11:47:05 PM »
Glad you got it all working.

Does a Gary do great work or what!

NOS is where the music lives for over 98% of available software available.

DSD, high Rez, be damned.  It is all about the music and not the latest, greatest sterile sounding tech for this audio curmudgeon.

Ya know, itís interesting. Some years back I had visions of buying and downloading hirez stuff and it just never happened. Am quite happy with the old CDs I have and Tidal is mostly 16/44 anyway.
That Gary Dews makes a very good dac.
ICEpower 1200as2 stereo amp
Audio Hungary APR 204 preamp
KEF LS 50 speakers
Border Patrol SE dac
Auralic Aries Mini
Roon & Tidal
Don Sachs phono
Basis Ovation turntable
Graham 1.5 T tonearm
AT-ML150 cartridge
PI Audio Uber
All cables by Gary A

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Re: Icepower 1200as amp
« Reply #12 on: July 12, 2018, 05:47:49 AM »
 Good to hear its all good now. Yes a good tubed preamp will add to your pleasure.

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