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Aging Ears or Shot Ears or Both ??
« on: March 12, 2018, 08:22:53 AM »
   Is it me or is it bright. I'm noticing that systems of most Men over 65 especially ones who played in band for some time are just bright and played to loud.
  What? turn up the volume.


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Re: Aging Ears or Shot Ears or Both ??
« Reply #1 on: March 12, 2018, 09:54:57 AM »
Unlike the rest of me, my ears are still quite excellent. While I do crank em up for ZZ Top or some Stones, its limited to that. Wonder where my hearing would be if is was in a rock band touring for 20 years....
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Re: Aging Ears or Shot Ears or Both ??
« Reply #2 on: March 12, 2018, 12:33:47 PM »
Unlike the rest of me, my ears are still quite excellent. While I do crank em up for ZZ Top or some Stones, its limited to that. Wonder where my hearing would be if is was in a rock band touring for 20 years....
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Re: Aging Ears or Shot Ears or Both ??
« Reply #3 on: March 13, 2018, 07:52:20 AM »
Unlike the rest of me, my ears are still quite excellent. While I do crank em up for ZZ Top or some Stones, its limited to that. Wonder where my hearing would be if is was in a rock band touring for 20 years....
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Re: Aging Ears or Shot Ears or Both ??
« Reply #4 on: March 27, 2018, 07:32:00 PM »
   Is it me or is it bright. I'm noticing that systems of most Men over 65 especially ones who played in band for some time are just bright and played to loud.
  What? turn up the volume.


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how would you know if it was too loud or too bright?   :rofl:

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Re: Aging Ears or Shot Ears or Both ??
« Reply #5 on: April 02, 2018, 08:17:17 AM »
 Well that is because I have Golden Ears. Well trained Ears anyway.


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Re: Aging Ears or Shot Ears or Both ??
« Reply #6 on: May 03, 2018, 04:28:39 PM »
Most of us have hearling loss; it's just a question of to what degree.  But even those of us with substantial loss can still train ourselves to listen for particular things within our limited range.  Instrument detail and placement, no problem.  Soundstage depth and width gets a bit more problematic as we lose frequencies above 4-5Khz. 
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Re: Aging Ears or Shot Ears or Both ??
« Reply #7 on: July 06, 2018, 01:59:23 PM »
Ive often thought that there must be some audiologists with equipment that travels. Think of senior care facilities, hospitals, etc... Im sure there would be some willing to travel to an audio club meeting to gauge/test/dispel our thoughts on our hearing ability. Of course at 58 mine is still as good as it was at 10 years old, but for all the others, it seems it might be a worthwhile endeavor.

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Re: Aging Ears or Shot Ears or Both ??
« Reply #8 on: July 06, 2018, 02:13:18 PM »
It would require a mobile testing booth that could reduce the noise outside the booth sufficiently to allow adequate isolation for you to attempt to test your hearing threshold for the test frequencies. It would add a lot of expense to testing.
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Re: Aging Ears or Shot Ears or Both ??
« Reply #9 on: July 06, 2018, 02:25:39 PM »
Testing your hearing is all well and good, but how often have we said that the goal of a good high end system is to a closely as possible recreate the experience of hearing a live performance? Well if you really take that philosophy to heart your own hearing should not be that big of an issue. Your personal listening experience would is a product of your own ears. What you hear live would be filtered through  whatever hearing ability you have (or don't have.) Since you would be listening with the same ears in the live and home listening situations what your particular hearing curve is should not be an issues since it would effect your perception of the music equally in both situations.
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Re: Aging Ears or Shot Ears or Both ??
« Reply #10 on: July 11, 2018, 01:11:19 PM »
I have hearing loss and wear aids, my audiologist says theres a difference between understanding speech and listening to music and audiophiles ears are trained and we dont have as many issues with music. I may misunderstand someone but I can hear minute sounds when playing music.
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