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Offline doug s.

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Re: thinking about selling my analog rig
« Reply #15 on: April 19, 2018, 11:47:01 AM »
Funny you should mention radio. With the server I can stream WBGO and many others. Lately that is most of my listening time for new music.

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Re: thinking about selling my analog rig
« Reply #16 on: April 19, 2018, 12:27:50 PM »
   Hook it up yet ??? I'll bet when you do and play one LP your streaming days will be over for critical listening. Hook it up, hook it up.  :)

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...I know there’s the lure of great analog sound, but I’m still a digital only guy.
ya, you just got that turntable and phono stage cuz it looks nice...  ;)

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Well, it’s sitting there and I haven’t put it up for sale either. So maybe there’s a part of me that still wants to try analog. And, yes, you’re right. It sure looks purdy....love the black and gold look on the turntable and the phono stage.
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here's my take - if you still have winyl, then keep the rig and set it up and use it.  even if it doesn't get used often, you will enjoy it when you use it.  if you don't have any records, then get rid of it.  i couldn't imagine trying to start an new record collection now.

i was just gifted a wintage fairchild 411 turntable - this thing's a monster, and i bet albums played on it will rival or surpass my oracle.  it's got a 3-idler pulley system, and each idler can be rotated in; w/the pulley on top of the idler driving a belt that drives the (massive) platter.  it's way cool. i just need to get it sorted; it runs consistently ~4% slow.  it doesn't seem to be a problem w/the idlers, as it's slow on all speeds and the idlers look good, so i have to sort out the (also massive, and silent) motor.

regarding what's spoiled me and made me lazy is internet radio.  it used to be regular fm that made me lazy; this is even worse!  ;)

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Doug,
That Fairchild is old...just like me :) Good luck working on the speed issue. As to that pesky analog issue.... ??
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Re: thinking about selling my analog rig
« Reply #17 on: April 19, 2018, 12:39:58 PM »
Doug,
That Fairchild is old...just like me :) Good luck working on the speed issue. As to that pesky analog issue.... ??
re: the fairchild 411, you & me both.  i think it may actually be a year or two newer than i am, haha!  ;)

re: pesky analog issue?  if you got albums, spin 'em!   :D

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Re: thinking about selling my analog rig
« Reply #18 on: April 19, 2018, 03:17:28 PM »
We are going to be moving in the next few months and I have packed up the stereo and records. Oodles of records. My wife actually said, "did you think about selling all this and starting new instead of packing and moving it all?"

MY BABIES!!!

Never crossed my mind. I'm anxiously looking forward to setting it all up in a new room and turning the locals onto what a good stereo can do vs earbuds.
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Re: thinking about selling my analog rig
« Reply #19 on: April 19, 2018, 05:36:54 PM »
and turning the locals onto what a good stereo can do vs earbuds.

Audiophiles: spreading the audionervosa infection far and wide.  :thumb:

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Re: thinking about selling my analog rig
« Reply #20 on: April 19, 2018, 11:00:36 PM »
We are going to be moving in the next few months and I have packed up the stereo and records. Oodles of records. My wife actually said, "did you think about selling all this and starting new instead of packing and moving it all?"

MY BABIES!!!

Never crossed my mind. I'm anxiously looking forward to setting it all up in a new room and turning the locals onto what a good stereo can do vs earbuds.

Life without earbuds?? So it aint so, Bob. Good luck on this noble quest  :thumb:
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Re: thinking about selling my analog rig
« Reply #21 on: April 20, 2018, 10:06:24 AM »

Life without earbuds?? So it aint so, Bob. Good luck on this noble quest  :thumb:

earbuds?  the only time i wear earbuds is when i'm riding one of my motorcycles.  but, they don't have any wires connected to 'em, and they attenuate noise ~26db...  ;)

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Re: thinking about selling my analog rig
« Reply #22 on: July 10, 2018, 08:57:52 AM »
  Me as well lately. Over 2KLPs, two tables numerous cartriges, Phono preamps, VPI cleaner, Kirmuss cleaner, phono cablesand more.
  I have gotten to a point with Redbook CD playback that has equaled or bettered my LP sound. Sitting for 20 minutes and then getting up to flip the LP now ruins my emotional impact. That getting up makes me loose that connection until the needle drops again. with CD 60 plus minutes of listening straight. Keeps the emotion and mood longer which I prefer. Especially with Classical.
  My LP collection is valued at over 10K so why not take advantage of that now. Have some thinking to do. Aqua digital has changed my world.

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Re: thinking about selling my analog rig
« Reply #23 on: July 10, 2018, 05:05:23 PM »
I am still on the fence and leaning heavily towards dumping analog...BUT. My strategy now is to sell my TT and arm and pay off a bill and buy a sub. THEN, buy a very cheap TT and play those records to hear what I have and see if it’s worth the hassle. I have the Don Sachs phono stageanyway
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Re: thinking about selling my analog rig
« Reply #24 on: July 10, 2018, 06:46:58 PM »
  Me as well lately. Over 2KLPs, two tables numerous cartriges, Phono preamps, VPI cleaner, Kirmuss cleaner, phono cablesand more.
  I have gotten to a point with Redbook CD playback that has equaled or bettered my LP sound. Sitting for 20 minutes and then getting up to flip the LP now ruins my emotional impact. That getting up makes me loose that connection until the needle drops again. with CD 60 plus minutes of listening straight. Keeps the emotion and mood longer which I prefer. Especially with Classical.
  My LP collection is valued at over 10K so why not take advantage of that now. Have some thinking to do. Aqua digital has changed my world.

charles

Here's  the fly in the ointment about that. How are you coming up with that $10k valuation? most of us doe that by looking at the retail value of our LPs on the used market. However the only way you can get that kind of money is to either sell them at a record show, which involves packing then all up and dragging them where if you are lucky you wioll sell 10% of them and then have to drag them all home and start over again, or you would have to sell them one at a time on some kind of online site, which is a huge amount of work for a large collection. And if you try to sell them in bulk to a dealer you will be lucky to get 50 cents a an album for them.

So while it is easy to say that your collection is worth $X it is quite another matter trying to turn it into cash.
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Re: thinking about selling my analog rig
« Reply #25 on: July 11, 2018, 06:27:30 PM »
I am still on the fence and leaning heavily towards dumping analog...BUT. My strategy now is to sell my TT and arm and pay off a bill and buy a sub. THEN, buy a very cheap TT and play those records to hear what I have and see if it’s worth the hassle. I have the Don Sachs phono stageanyway
Nick
i would humbly suggest that you buy your "very cheap" turntable before selling your spendy rig, because if you decide it's worth the hassle, you may be disappointed you let your nice rig go.  i also suggest your "very cheap" turntable be an empire; either the unsuspended iterations, or the rare 498 if you want a suspension.  prices have crept up a bit, as people realize their worth, but they still punch way above their price range, regarding price/performance ratio.  you'd have to spend a lot more on something new to get similar performance...

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Re: thinking about selling my analog rig
« Reply #26 on: July 11, 2018, 11:54:40 PM »
I am still on the fence and leaning heavily towards dumping analog...BUT. My strategy now is to sell my TT and arm and pay off a bill and buy a sub. THEN, buy a very cheap TT and play those records to hear what I have and see if it’s worth the hassle. I have the Don Sachs phono stageanyway
Nick
i would humbly suggest that you buy your "very cheap" turntable before selling your spendy rig, because if you decide it's worth the hassle, you may be disappointed you let your nice rig go.  i also suggest your "very cheap" turntable be an empire; either the unsuspended iterations, or the rare 498 if you want a suspension.  prices have crept up a bit, as people realize their worth, but they still punch way above their price range, regarding price/performance ratio.  you'd have to spend a lot more on something new to get similar performance...

doug s.

Well, I hear what you’re saying and I haven’t put the Basis TT and Graham arm up for sale yet anyway. I know the combo would be hard to beat. But damn, that thing is heavy.... 🏋🏻‍♂️ I’ll likely have a preamp soon anyway. But there is the old cash flow problem with this crazy hobby and I also need to buy a sub
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Re: thinking about selling my analog rig
« Reply #27 on: July 12, 2018, 05:00:24 AM »
Nick, I'm not sure what you  are considering as a "very Cheap" price, but I recently purchased one of these Pro-Ject Debut Carbon TTs for a friend of mine and it does puts out some really nice sound considering the price ($399 including an Ortofon 2M Red cart).

http://www.audioadvisor.com/prodinfo.asp?number=PRDECADC

And if you buy it from Audio Advisor you get 30 day return privileges, so i you try it out and the SQ turns out to be less than you would like to deal with you can always send it back for a full refund. (I hve sent stuff back to them in the past and they gave me no hassles about it at all.

Does it sound anywhere as good as my VPI/SME combination, of course not, but the whole thing (which comes with the cart premountedand takes about ten minutes to get up and runnimg right out of the box) costs lesst than the power cable I have connected to my TT.

Great value for the money.
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Re: thinking about selling my analog rig
« Reply #28 on: July 12, 2018, 05:25:26 AM »
Nick, I'm not sure what you  are considering as a "very Cheap" price, but I recently purchased one of these Pro-Ject Debut Carbon TTs for a friend of mine and it does puts out some really nice sound considering the price ($399 including an Ortofon 2M Red cart).

http://www.audioadvisor.com/prodinfo.asp?number=PRDECADC

And if you buy it from Audio Advisor you get 30 day return privileges, so i you try it out and the SQ turns out to be less than you would like to deal with you can always send it back for a full refund. (I hve sent stuff back to them in the past and they gave me no hassles about it at all.

Does it sound anywhere as good as my VPI/SME combination, of course not, but the whole thing (which comes with the cart premountedand takes about ten minutes to get up and runnimg right out of the box) costs lesst than the power cable I have connected to my TT.

Great value for the money.
great value for the money?  for me, great value for the money is a similarly priced vintage empire, which competes sonically w/new offerings in the $2k-$3k range.  of course, what cartridge that may or may not come w/a vintage turntable is an unknown.  the last empire i bought was $325, and it included a decent grado cartridge (green?  black? i don't remember.) it was my daughter's gift to her boyfriend.  ;) and it sounded great.  she now has a new boyfriend, but she wishes she had the old turntable.   :lol:

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Re: thinking about selling my analog rig
« Reply #29 on: July 12, 2018, 05:54:45 AM »
  Me as well lately. Over 2KLPs, two tables numerous cartriges, Phono preamps, VPI cleaner, Kirmuss cleaner, phono cablesand more.
  I have gotten to a point with Redbook CD playback that has equaled or bettered my LP sound. Sitting for 20 minutes and then getting up to flip the LP now ruins my emotional impact. That getting up makes me loose that connection until the needle drops again. with CD 60 plus minutes of listening straight. Keeps the emotion and mood longer which I prefer. Especially with Classical.
  My LP collection is valued at over 10K so why not take advantage of that now. Have some thinking to do. Aqua digital has changed my world.

charles

Here's  the fly in the ointment about that. How are you coming up with that $10k valuation? most of us doe that by looking at the retail value of our LPs on the used market. However the only way you can get that kind of money is to either sell them at a record show, which involves packing then all up and dragging them where if you are lucky you wioll sell 10% of them and then have to drag them all home and start over again, or you would have to sell them one at a time on some kind of online site, which is a huge amount of work for a large collection. And if you try to sell them in bulk to a dealer you will be lucky to get 50 cents a an album for them.

So while it is easy to say that your collection is worth $X it is quite another matter trying to turn it into cash.


 Tom I am lucky to own numerous 10" 33.3 mono jazz recordings. First LP of artist and pressings of such. I have been offered over 5K just for those.
 You are right about trading in to a record dealer. One will not get much. Looking to sell entire collection to one buyer. Actually have some interest.

charles
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