You know what grinds my gears?

[richidoo]

Something to consider. Very frequently the minimum run for a custom type of cable/wire is 10,000ft. At X amount dollars /ft.. If you are lucky. Frequently they require an even larger minimum amount of footage. You hope to hell the 10K feet of wire you just ordered isn't an epic fail. If it is crap, your sunk cost is real big and if you have the capital maybe you try again.

A little birdie told me that this is how the original Pangea PC was born. Scrap from a major wire maker. Better than old rope, but not what they wanted, so they sold it to highest bidder, who sold it for $30/yard retail.

[tmazz]

With all the conflict that has gone on on this thread over the last week I cannot believe nobody thought to post this smiley.  

Kinda sums up this tread. The Stooges beat on each other constantly (quite literally), but were always friends that stuck together in the end.  

[GT Audio Works]

Scammers on craigslist. How many bullshit texts do I have to endure ??

"Hi I am interested in your item...I will send you a money order with an extra $50 to hold it for me till my shipper can come get it."

Do these people really believe we are that stupid ?
Guess they must hook some suckers or they would not keep at it.

[Nick B]

With all the conflict that has gone on on this thread over the last week I cannot believe nobody thought to post this smiley.  

Kinda sums up this tread. The Stooges beat on each other constantly (quite literally), but were always friends that stuck together in the end.  

I resemble that remark... nyuck, nyuck, nyuck. Thanks, I needed that!!
Love them Stooges 😀

[KLH007]

 
      Not picking on you that was a general statement. In your case the cost of the rare earth magnets are very expensive these days. Hence the rise in cost of your speaker.

I'm sure there is more that raised the price so please tell us.


 


charles
    

Well Charlie, if you must know...its the super rare eel farts sprinkled with magic dust that allow it to compete against more expensive planars for $26,000 less.

Greg

    Arghaaaa gotta love those eels. What planars for $26K less. What planars cost 35K ? The Analysis planars are 20K and 28K and discounted.
   Maggies are 14K and 5K. Greg you have a great speaker and more should own a pair. At 9K it is getting harder to buy a pair. Those who are willing to put out 14K for MG 20 should demo your speaker and leave the Maggies in the store. There would be 6K left over to buy amps [ Arions of course] that was for Topround. . BRILLIANT !!!
    

charles  
  
   Your biggest competition is Maggie at 14K which you best IMO

What planars cost $35k ?? At 9k getting harder to buy a pair ??
Charles,
Currently in production ? None I know of.  Though I think you may have heard one that is no longer in production.
I have seen and heard $65k planars, so someone felt they had a product worth that money.
Maybe the market proves them wrong.
My feeling is that there is room in the market for a 9K speaker.
Especially one that competes against more expensive offerings.
You may feel that my current asking price is too high, from remembering my first effort that sold for around $3k which I exhibited at the NYC audio show in 2012.
My current offering is not that speaker, as a matter of fact the $3k asking price for that speaker was only about $500 over my parts cost.
I guess I was trying to make an impression.
This strategy may have backfired in allowing people to believe I have done nothing since, and am just sitting back and cranking up the price to its current level.
My first speaker was a completely different animal from my current offering.
I could not even buy the parts needed to build a GTA2.5 for $3k
How much do you think Maggie puts into their speakers compared to their asking price? Sure they have big overhead and dealers etc.
This is where my business model comes into play, low overhead so the customer gets more of what they paid for, and is not paying for a dealer markup and a manufacturers overhead.
Of course my business model don't mean squat if they dont sound any better than Maggies.
I would not be here if I didn't think they did.
The truth is I have blown tens of thousands of dollars on R&D since 2012. Its one thing to pull drivers off a shelf and call it a speaker..not an easy task..believe me I know.
Its even more difficult to design and build ones own drivers.

9k for a speaker, in the high end audio arena ?? Not ludicrous,
expensive, yes. But for a custom hand built product competing against whats out there, I think it fares well.

Greg

BTW Charles....I offer industry accommodation pricing of $6500
Also I am considering home dealers who do not expect to make more money selling my speaker, than I would get from the arrangement.

After hearing all the speakers at 2015 CAF under $15K, I placed an order with Greg for a pair of GTA 2.5s, deciding on wood choice now. I'll be driving them with a fresh pair of Odyssey Kismets upgraded with Odyssey Reference PS caps, should be a great match.

[tmazz]

With all the conflict that has gone on on this thread over the last week I cannot believe nobody thought to post this smiley.  

Kinda sums up this tread. The Stooges beat on each other constantly (quite literally), but were always friends that stuck together in the end.  

I resemble that remark... nyuck, nyuck, nyuck. Thanks, I needed that!!
Love them Stooges 😀

Remind me to moy-der you later.......

[rollo]

  Kemper good choice. Enjoy !!!!


charles

[rollo]

Congratulations Charlie on Best of Show!

Can you show me the link to that fact? would love to read about that!

Mike

   Here it is www.gofuckyourself.com  :rofl:Too long ago to matter. This year though we got best bass at show using Innersound OB subs. I believe it was enjoythemusic.com.
   
charles


charles

[topround]

Sorry but that link is no longer valid.
maybe the server melted

[rollo]

Sorry but that link is no longer valid.
maybe the server melted

      Melted away, oh well. Actually what melted us at CAF was a visit from Lyn Stanley.
    Lyn asked us to put on Her CD. She began singing to the music and we could not tell the difference between live and the CD.
    Several reviewers were present including Kemper Holt from enjoythemusic and some others.
     Lyn after she stopped singing paused and made this statement. "I have sang in the so called highly touted rooms like VPI ,MBL today and your room is the ONLY one where I sound like me"
    Cannot get a better endorsement then that. The Truth with no agenda or audio politics. Goosebumps baby.
   Back to topic. I'll add audio politics.


charles

[tmazz]

Goosebumps baby.
 

 

Equipment doesn't matter.
Technology doesn't matter.
Setup doesn't matter.

The only two things that matter are music and goosebumps.

The rest are just tools to get us there. 

[rollo]

Goosebumps baby.
 

 

Equipment doesn't matter.
Technology doesn't matter.
Setup doesn't matter.

The only two things that matter are music and goosebumps.

The rest are just tools to get us there. 

    It all matters to get the goosebumps. I would agree that Technology does not matter it is the person setting it up that matters the most to get ones goosebumps.



charles

[tmazz]

Goosebumps baby.
 

 

Equipment doesn't matter.
Technology doesn't matter.
Setup doesn't matter.

The only two things that matter are music and goosebumps.

The rest are just tools to get us there. 

    It all matters to get the goosebumps. I would agree that Technology does not matter it is the person setting it up that matters the most to get ones goosebumps.



charles

I guess what I was trying to say is that there is no "right" way. It doesn't matter what kind of technology, equipment or setup you use, goosebumps is goosebumps, no matter how you get there. And in the end, the result is way more important than the tools.

[topround]

This thread may require hip waders

[rollo]

This thread may require hip waders

    Make sure yo get the right fit I recommend Dick's. 
 

charles