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Offline rollo

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EE DAC Supreme
« on: October 29, 2014, 08:29:13 AM »
  UPS delivered this unit today. Right out of the box it was very impressive. Well built, includes a phase switch [ love that ], runs SS or tubed and yes DSD for you computer types. Love the BNC connection as well.
   How does it sound ? Without any break in Sony as a transport. If you own a EE DAC you need to hear the Supreme.
       No  I am not a dealer just a very happy camper right now. Need to hear it connected to a computer now.
      After break in this piece should break the price barrier. Very well done Bill.


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Re: EE DAC Supreme
« Reply #1 on: October 29, 2014, 08:42:57 AM »
Hey Charles,

Nice to hear: looking forward to your follow up. Maybe you and Fred can bring the DAC Supreme and the Lampizator Amber to a Syndrome/Rave get together for a comparison.

I'd probably come up from FL for that.    :drool:   :D
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Re: EE DAC Supreme
« Reply #2 on: October 29, 2014, 09:38:14 AM »
What DAC chip do they use? I have sworn off all Sabre chips. I know implementation, yada.. but the do have a certain kind of sound signature.
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Re: EE DAC Supreme
« Reply #3 on: October 29, 2014, 09:52:21 AM »
Quote from: rpf on October 29, 2014, 08:42:57 AM
Hey Charles,

Nice to hear: looking forward to your follow up. Maybe you and Fred can bring the DAC Supreme and the Lampizator Amber to a Syndrome/Rave get together for a comparison.

I'd probably come up from FL for that.    :drool:   :D

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Re: EE DAC Supreme
« Reply #4 on: October 29, 2014, 10:01:17 AM »
Quote from: machinehead on October 29, 2014, 09:38:14 AM
What DAC chip do they use? I have sworn off all Sabre chips. I know implementation, yada.. but the do have a certain kind of sound signature.


Why swear off the sabre chips? :-k
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Re: EE DAC Supreme
« Reply #5 on: October 29, 2014, 10:25:47 AM »
Quote from: jimbones on October 29, 2014, 10:01:17 AM
Quote from: machinehead on October 29, 2014, 09:38:14 AM
What DAC chip do they use? I have sworn off all Sabre chips. I know implementation, yada.. but the do have a certain kind of sound signature.


Why swear off the sabre chips? :-k

Yea, Mikey!  Inquiring minds want to know!  :shock:

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Re: EE DAC Supreme
« Reply #6 on: October 29, 2014, 10:50:39 AM »
Just thought of this...

Mikey says he's sworn off Sabres.  Maybe he's like Stymie and prefers a Cutlass!?!

"Tune in" around the 6:48 mark in the video.  At 7:24, Stymie lets everyone know what cutlass he prefers!

http://youtu.be/SJIzVaVbdz4?t=6m48s

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Re: EE DAC Supreme
« Reply #7 on: October 29, 2014, 11:14:16 AM »
Quote from: machinehead on October 29, 2014, 09:38:14 AM
What DAC chip do they use? I have sworn off all Sabre chips. I know implementation, yada.. but the do have a certain kind of sound signature.


    Chips are paralleled ESS9018. Dual power supplies as well. The only signature I'm getting so far is music not Hi Fi.
    I'm curious what DAC's have you tried in your system using that chip ?
      I hear the same comments about op amps. Listen to the Miracle Audio phonostage and preamp and that opinion will change. There is more to it then one part. I have heard all to many audiophiles dismiss a component for one part. They missed out on allot IMO.


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Re: EE DAC Supreme
« Reply #8 on: October 29, 2014, 11:48:41 AM »
Quote from: rollo on October 29, 2014, 11:14:16 AM
Chips are paralleled ESS9018.

The single ESS9018 chip has 8 channels internal, paralleled into 2 groups of 4 for stereo. The dual power transformers are for separate digital and analog circuits.

Does anybody know whether the 9018 in Minimax Supreme is used in current mode or voltage mode? This makes a big difference. Current output mode applies a low impedance load (only a couple ohms) to the DAC letting it run in current mode for lower distortion. Then an I/R conversion makes a voltage signal for output. I have tried both ways, I like current mode much better.
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Re: EE DAC Supreme
« Reply #9 on: October 29, 2014, 12:00:09 PM »
Quote from: StereoNut on October 29, 2014, 09:52:21 AM
Quote from: rpf on October 29, 2014, 08:42:57 AM
Hey Charles,

Nice to hear: looking forward to your follow up. Maybe you and Fred can bring the DAC Supreme and the Lampizator Amber to a Syndrome/Rave get together for a comparison.

I'd probably come up from FL for that.    :drool:   :D

+1 :thumb:

+2, both for hearing the DACs and for Rob coming to visit.  :thumb: :thumb:
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Re: EE DAC Supreme
« Reply #10 on: October 29, 2014, 01:50:52 PM »
lol.... idk any Dac Ive heard and had with the Sabre seem to lack richness, texture, and inner detail. Its just a hunch more that reality probably.. I know what we compared the Yulong DA8 a lot of micro detail was missing and it seemed bright when compared to Bobs Ayre CD player. I had the previous version of the minimax with the Sabre Dac when it was getting passed about and wasn't crazy about it. I also had the Resonessence Labs Concero which was good but not great.
Have you compared the Supreme to the previous version?
Looking forward to more impressions.

Wonder why they didn't use the new version of the 9018.
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Re: EE DAC Supreme
« Reply #11 on: October 29, 2014, 03:49:45 PM »
Quote from: richidoo on October 29, 2014, 11:48:41 AM
Quote from: rollo on October 29, 2014, 11:14:16 AM
Chips are paralleled ESS9018.

The single ESS9018 chip has 8 channels internal, paralleled into 2 groups of 4 for stereo. The dual power transformers are for separate digital and analog circuits.

Does anybody know whether the 9018 in Minimax Supreme is used in current mode or voltage mode? This makes a big difference. Current output mode applies a low impedance load (only a couple ohms) to the DAC letting it run in current mode for lower distortion. Then an I/R conversion makes a voltage signal for output. I have tried both ways, I like current mode much better.

What's this? Is this on the same dac you compared?
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Re: EE DAC Supreme
« Reply #12 on: October 29, 2014, 03:52:35 PM »
how much is this scrumptious looking dac cost?
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Re: EE DAC Supreme
« Reply #13 on: October 29, 2014, 06:44:41 PM »
Quote from: Werd on October 29, 2014, 03:49:45 PM
What's this? Is this on the same dac you compared?

What's what? 
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Re: EE DAC Supreme
« Reply #14 on: October 29, 2014, 06:56:38 PM »
Is it basically the same dad with extra toroid in a bigger box so you can mod it?
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