Author Topic: The Pains of Computer Audio  (Read 3362 times)

Offline jimbones

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Re: The Pains of Computer Audio
« Reply #45 on: September 26, 2018, 08:41:14 AM »
Sorry to hear you are having problems. My digital has been rock solid playing pretty much any format for at least 5 years. Listening to peoples woes I think that people try and put together a system out of spare parts they have lying around and that is what ends up having problem.  If I would give you advice it would be this.
 
  • Put all you music on a NAS, that is on 24/7.  <Yep, did that> Who care if it is uses 15 watts when it is idle, leaving it on all the time will elevate any issues with drives spiingin up ro down when you are tryting to listen to music.

    Put in a hardwired network, don't run it off of wi-fi.<Yep, thats the set up>

    Get a dedicated Streamer/Player/server, leave it on all the time too. The streamer should be able to connect to the NAS via the hardwired LAN. <Yes, that too>

    Plug the streamer into the DAC, enjoy digital music.

Playing around with jriver, foobar, media monkey, etc is fine when listening to music at you PC. but if you are trying to integrate digital streaming with your main rig it is much better to get dedicated solutions. Yes in the long run it is more money that just putting together a digital streaming solution from odds and ends you have lying around the house. But the dedicated gear makes things work so much smoother.<BTW I am trying to compare files stored locally on a HDD played by a PC into a DAC vs files stored on a NAS sent to a streamer to a DAC. I have suspicions that there may be significant difference, maybe not?>

Jim, I have extended an invitation to come over and hear my system before. Sometime when you have time send me an email and come over, I can walk you through my whole setup.
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Re: The Pains of Computer Audio
« Reply #46 on: September 26, 2018, 09:54:51 AM »
Great, reach out to me whenever you want.

I don't feel there are any differences between playing a file off the HDD on the NAS via the network or playing the file on the HDD local to the PC. They are the exact same file, if there are any differences there is a problem with the player. Of course if you want to run it one way or the other, whatever floats your boat.
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Re: The Pains of Computer Audio
« Reply #47 on: September 26, 2018, 12:31:59 PM »
yea, just an experiment really. I was able to get it running recently but I did not do a serious compare. There was a noticeable difference though. I did see a youtube video of a guy doing an a/b compare of I2S vs USB and there was a big difference between the 2. I am always interested in eventually going in the direction of better sound if and when I can.
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Re: The Pains of Computer Audio
« Reply #48 on: September 26, 2018, 01:00:25 PM »
Aren't we all.

I am running i2s to my DAC, I do think it sounds a little better than USB, but the i2s interface it more prone to problems, interference, jitter etc. so it depends how it works in your set.  I can run DSD native over i2S, something I can not do with USB so that was the main reason I tried it.
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Re: The Pains of Computer Audio
« Reply #49 on: September 26, 2018, 06:28:26 PM »
I can run DSD native over i2S, something I can not do with USB so that was the main reason I tried it.

Any background on why USB and native DSD did not work for you?

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Re: The Pains of Computer Audio
« Reply #50 on: September 29, 2018, 01:45:24 PM »
I can run DSD native over i2S, something I can not do with USB so that was the main reason I tried it.

Any background on why USB and native DSD did not work for you?

Native DSD won't work over USB without a driver specific to the DAC, as the USB spec does not support native DSD only PCM. My DAC doesn't have any way to do native DSD over USB, so I had to use DoP DSD. switching to i2S let me go native DSD as well as up to DSD 256.
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Re: The Pains of Computer Audio
« Reply #51 on: September 29, 2018, 04:41:06 PM »
Got it.

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Re: The Pains of Computer Audio
« Reply #52 on: October 17, 2018, 11:39:34 AM »
  PAINLESS AUDIO GET A SERVER INSTEAD.  :duh


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