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Offline steve

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I am manufacturing my V Interconnect Cables again
« on: September 05, 2018, 09:57:48 PM »
SAS Audio Labs/Steve has decided to manufacture my V interconnect cables again. From my webpage.

1. I use exceptionally pure 5N cryod copper wire, in a nitrogen atmosphere, manufactured in Japan. (There are only two place on earth who manufacture such to my knowledge.)

2. I use modified Vampire all copper (gold plated) plugs.

3. Terminations are just as important as wire and plugs.

4. I use a proprietary listening test setup to actually check that the ics simply disappear, out of the way of the music. This method is not simply auditioning through a system, as others do.

Simply auditioning through a system means the ics are designed to best compensate for the flaws in their audio system. That means their ics will transfer its artificial flavors to your system.

The result of my specialized listening testing is superior musical integrity, conherency, proper tonality, soundstaging, naturalness, dynamics, accuracy.

V Interconnect Cables Specifications and Ordering Information:

Interconnect Cable Inductance    ~680 nanohenries/meter (0,68 micro henries not a factor in virtually all audio circuits.)         
Capacitance                                    39pf per meter
Shielded                                          No
Temperature Rating                        Keep below 150F degrees

Price:         
1/2 Meter                                       $140.00/pr
1 Meter                                          $180.00/pr
1.5 Meter                                       $220.00/pr

To Audition or Purchase the V Interconnect:

30 day money back guarantee. Payment can be made from a Paypal account, a credit card through Paypal (use sasaudio@omnilec.com for email address ), Post Office Draft, or Personal Check (allow sufficient time for check to clear) payable to SAS Audio Labs. Normal shipping is mail or FedEx ground unless specified differently. For second day or overnight shipping, please contact me.

Cheers

Steve Sammet
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« Last Edit: September 05, 2018, 10:01:20 PM by steve »
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Re: I am manufacturing my V Interconnect Cables again
« Reply #1 on: September 06, 2018, 07:31:24 AM »
   Interesting, ver interesting. Priced fairly as well.


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Re: I am manufacturing my V Interconnect Cables again
« Reply #2 on: September 06, 2018, 08:37:43 AM »
Can the ic be used as a digital cable as well?
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Re: I am manufacturing my V Interconnect Cables again
« Reply #3 on: September 06, 2018, 09:42:38 AM »
Can the ic be used as a digital cable as well?
Nick

I am sorry Nick but it cannot. It is not shielded and therefore its impedance is not stable as a result. If the wires were perfectly still/together, very roughly, the impedance (Z) is ~125 - 135ohms. This is from physical specs of wire, but insulation thickness and spacing of wires will vary.

cheers and thanks for asking Nick.

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Re: I am manufacturing my V Interconnect Cables again
« Reply #4 on: September 06, 2018, 10:31:10 AM »
Congratulations on your decision to manufacture your products again, Steve!
Best of Luck!   :thumb: 
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Re: I am manufacturing my V Interconnect Cables again
« Reply #5 on: September 06, 2018, 11:33:40 AM »
Can the ic be used as a digital cable as well?
Nick

I am sorry Nick but it cannot. It is not shielded and therefore its impedance is not stable as a result. If the wires were perfectly still/together, very roughly, the impedance (Z) is ~125 - 135ohms. This is from physical specs of wire, but insulation thickness and spacing of wires will vary.

cheers and thanks for asking Nick.

steve

Steve,
Have you ever manufactured digital cables? Only once did I use a digital only cable and that was  from Audio Sensability and I couldn’t tell any difference from the ic that I had on hand. Admittedly, my system resolves much better now. If the information isn’t proprietary, why does a digital cable need to be shielded and I thought the ideal impedance for digital is 75 ohms. And yes indeed, congratulations on manufacturing again. As I was a Bound for Sound subscriber for many years, I recall your preamp being in the Components of Merit category
Nick

 
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Re: I am manufacturing my V Interconnect Cables again
« Reply #6 on: September 06, 2018, 03:55:57 PM »
Can the ic be used as a digital cable as well?
Nick

I am sorry Nick but it cannot. It is not shielded and therefore its impedance is not stable as a result. If the wires were perfectly still/together, very roughly, the impedance (Z) is ~125 - 135ohms. This is from physical specs of wire, but insulation thickness and spacing of wires will vary.

cheers and thanks for asking Nick.

steve

Steve,
Have you ever manufactured digital cables? Only once did I use a digital only cable and that was  from Audio Sensability and I couldn’t tell any difference from the ic that I had on hand. Admittedly, my system resolves much better now. If the information isn’t proprietary, why does a digital cable need to be shielded and I thought the ideal impedance for digital is 75 ohms. And yes indeed, congratulations on manufacturing again. As I was a Bound for Sound subscriber for many years, I recall your preamp being in the Components of Merit category
Nick

Manufacturing coax is via machine, within tight tolerances, so a very consistent impedance/quality product. PC boards in computers etc. also have the foils laid out in a consistent repeatable manor, for constant impedance (no shield). Two separate wires inside a jacket, I can't make it consistent, stable.

Yes, typically, the impedance depends upon the reason/function. A lot of stuff is 75 ohm, but 52 ohm use is also quite common. At least it used to be.

Yes, the 10A was one of three component of merit, one other a volume control transformer (without a gain/buffer stage), and I forget the third product. Martin then purchased an 11A as his reference since it was near perfect.

I am only going to manufacture the ics, not preamplifers/amps due to time restraints and parts availability.
 
One other note, the ics may look a little/moderately crinkled; I cannot guarantee perfect jacket smoothness.

cheers

steve

ps. I just checked and the wire is 6N pure.
« Last Edit: September 06, 2018, 05:52:45 PM by steve »
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Re: I am manufacturing my V Interconnect Cables again
« Reply #7 on: September 07, 2018, 02:10:54 AM »
Awesome, Steve!

I'd like to buy a pair of 1 meter ICs.

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Re: I am manufacturing my V Interconnect Cables again
« Reply #8 on: September 07, 2018, 09:52:31 AM »
Can the ic be used as a digital cable as well?
Nick

I am sorry Nick but it cannot. It is not shielded and therefore its impedance is not stable as a result. If the wires were perfectly still/together, very roughly, the impedance (Z) is ~125 - 135ohms. This is from physical specs of wire, but insulation thickness and spacing of wires will vary.

cheers and thanks for asking Nick.

steve

Steve,
Have you ever manufactured digital cables? Only once did I use a digital only cable and that was  from Audio Sensability and I couldn’t tell any difference from the ic that I had on hand. Admittedly, my system resolves much better now. If the information isn’t proprietary, why does a digital cable need to be shielded and I thought the ideal impedance for digital is 75 ohms. And yes indeed, congratulations on manufacturing again. As I was a Bound for Sound subscriber for many years, I recall your preamp being in the Components of Merit category
Nick

Manufacturing coax is via machine, within tight tolerances, so a very consistent impedance/quality product. PC boards in computers etc. also have the foils laid out in a consistent repeatable manor, for constant impedance (no shield). Two separate wires inside a jacket, I can't make it consistent, stable.

Yes, typically, the impedance depends upon the reason/function. A lot of stuff is 75 ohm, but 52 ohm use is also quite common. At least it used to be.

Yes, the 10A was one of three component of merit, one other a volume control transformer (without a gain/buffer stage), and I forget the third product. Martin then purchased an 11A as his reference since it was near perfect.

I am only going to manufacture the ics, not preamplifers/amps due to time restraints and parts availability.
 
One other note, the ics may look a little/moderately crinkled; I cannot guarantee perfect jacket smoothness.

cheers

steve

ps. I just checked and the wire is 6N pure.


Steve,
Since you don’t make a digital cable, can I ask what you use for your system(s)? On this forum, the only company that I know of that makes a digital cable is TWL.
Nick
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Re: I am manufacturing my V Interconnect Cables again
« Reply #9 on: September 07, 2018, 12:46:10 PM »
Can the ic be used as a digital cable as well?
Nick

I am sorry Nick but it cannot. It is not shielded and therefore its impedance is not stable as a result. If the wires were perfectly still/together, very roughly, the impedance (Z) is ~125 - 135ohms. This is from physical specs of wire, but insulation thickness and spacing of wires will vary.

cheers and thanks for asking Nick.

steve

Steve,
Have you ever manufactured digital cables? Only once did I use a digital only cable and that was  from Audio Sensability and I couldn’t tell any difference from the ic that I had on hand. Admittedly, my system resolves much better now. If the information isn’t proprietary, why does a digital cable need to be shielded and I thought the ideal impedance for digital is 75 ohms. And yes indeed, congratulations on manufacturing again. As I was a Bound for Sound subscriber for many years, I recall your preamp being in the Components of Merit category
Nick

Manufacturing coax is via machine, within tight tolerances, so a very consistent impedance/quality product. PC boards in computers etc. also have the foils laid out in a consistent repeatable manor, for constant impedance (no shield). Two separate wires inside a jacket, I can't make it consistent, stable.

Yes, typically, the impedance depends upon the reason/function. A lot of stuff is 75 ohm, but 52 ohm use is also quite common. At least it used to be.

Yes, the 10A was one of three component of merit, one other a volume control transformer (without a gain/buffer stage), and I forget the third product. Martin then purchased an 11A as his reference since it was near perfect.

I am only going to manufacture the ics, not preamplifers/amps due to time restraints and parts availability.
 
One other note, the ics may look a little/moderately crinkled; I cannot guarantee perfect jacket smoothness.

cheers

steve

ps. I just checked and the wire is 6N pure.


Steve,
Since you don’t make a digital cable, can I ask what you use for your system(s)? On this forum, the only company that I know of that makes a digital cable is TWL.
Nick

Sure Nick. I do not use any digital cable, I only use a modified NAD 521 player, computers analog output (with internal digital equalizer optimized), and turntable with test phono stage. 

The NAD is 20 bit, 44.1k but I bypassed the cheap 6db (gain of 2) analog chip and associated cheap parts and use Vampire all copper/gold plated jacks. 

Cheers

steve
« Last Edit: September 07, 2018, 01:11:53 PM by steve »
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Re: I am manufacturing my V Interconnect Cables again
« Reply #10 on: September 07, 2018, 01:08:31 PM »
Awesome, Steve!

I'd like to buy a pair of 1 meter ICs.

Michael

Sure Michael, I will be gone all day Monday, but I should be around tuesday.

For general public consumption; it is not beyond the realm of possibility that one may need to slightly adjust the speaker placement, probably rotation for optimum sonics as the tonal balance may change etc. Maybe just a 1/16" movement, but a "full sounding" room might need more, even much more. Of course, optimum sonic results is what we are looking for.

cheers and thanks Michael.

steve

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Re: I am manufacturing my V Interconnect Cables again
« Reply #11 on: September 07, 2018, 04:40:33 PM »
Can the ic be used as a digital cable as well?
Nick

I am sorry Nick but it cannot. It is not shielded and therefore its impedance is not stable as a result. If the wires were perfectly still/together, very roughly, the impedance (Z) is ~125 - 135ohms. This is from physical specs of wire, but insulation thickness and spacing of wires will vary.

cheers and thanks for asking Nick.

steve

Steve,
Have you ever manufactured digital cables? Only once did I use a digital only cable and that was  from Audio Sensability and I couldn’t tell any difference from the ic that I had on hand. Admittedly, my system resolves much better now. If the information isn’t proprietary, why does a digital cable need to be shielded and I thought the ideal impedance for digital is 75 ohms. And yes indeed, congratulations on manufacturing again. As I was a Bound for Sound subscriber for many years, I recall your preamp being in the Components of Merit category
Nick

Manufacturing coax is via machine, within tight tolerances, so a very consistent impedance/quality product. PC boards in computers etc. also have the foils laid out in a consistent repeatable manor, for constant impedance (no shield). Two separate wires inside a jacket, I can't make it consistent, stable.

Yes, typically, the impedance depends upon the reason/function. A lot of stuff is 75 ohm, but 52 ohm use is also quite common. At least it used to be.

Yes, the 10A was one of three component of merit, one other a volume control transformer (without a gain/buffer stage), and I forget the third product. Martin then purchased an 11A as his reference since it was near perfect.

I am only going to manufacture the ics, not preamplifers/amps due to time restraints and parts availability.
 
One other note, the ics may look a little/moderately crinkled; I cannot guarantee perfect jacket smoothness.

cheers

steve

ps. I just checked and the wire is 6N pure.


Steve,
Since you don’t make a digital cable, can I ask what you use for your system(s)? On this forum, the only company that I know of that makes a digital cable is TWL.
Nick

Sure Nick. I do not use any digital cable, I only use a modified NAD 521 player, computers analog output (with internal digital equalizer optimized), and turntable with test phono stage. 

The NAD is 20 bit, 44.1k but I bypassed the cheap 6db (gain of 2) analog chip and associated cheap parts and use Vampire all copper/gold plated jacks. 

Cheers

steve

Thanks, Steve. A nice, simple setup. I admire you guys that have the ability to make those kinds of mods
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Re: I am manufacturing my V Interconnect Cables again
« Reply #12 on: September 08, 2018, 12:38:54 PM »

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I am only going to manufacture the ics, not preamplifers/amps due to time restraints and parts availability.
 
One other note, the ics may look a little/moderately crinkled; I cannot guarantee perfect jacket smoothness.

cheers
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Not wrinkle free??? What are you thinking ... oh, yeah... Neither am I  :thumb:
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Re: I am manufacturing my V Interconnect Cables again
« Reply #13 on: September 08, 2018, 01:43:26 PM »
Dave didn't anybody tell you? Wrinkles are where the body stores up all the wisdom that we have accumulated over the years.  :D
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Re: I am manufacturing my V Interconnect Cables again
« Reply #14 on: October 04, 2018, 08:30:28 PM »
Dave didn't anybody tell you? Wrinkles are where the body stores up all the wisdom that we have accumulated over the years.  :D

Ha ha ha. LOL Dave. That is a good one, like it.

With all the special listening tests I have performed over the decades, no plug is entirely satisfactory. However, for accuracy, especially tonality wise, I stay away from Rhodium, and any silver types. Even the gold plated copper I use have to be tweaked, everything has to be just right, in order to "vanish".

Cheers

Steve 
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« Last Edit: October 04, 2018, 08:33:16 PM by steve »
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SAS Test Phono Stage
Acutex 320 STR Mov Iron Cart
SAS 11A Perfect Tube Preamp
SAS 25 W Ref Triode/UL Monoblocks
2 way Floor Standing Test Speakers