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Systemic Development => Speakers => Topic started by: rollo on January 08, 2019, 08:22:25 AM

Title: TEKTON SPEAKERS
Post by: rollo on January 08, 2019, 08:22:25 AM
  Lots of buzz going on. Anyone hear them ??


charles
Title: Re: TEKTON SPEAKERS
Post by: Folsom on January 08, 2019, 08:46:40 AM
No. But there is a really annoying guy on WBF that posts about them.

They look extremely foolish from an engineering perspective. None of their tech talk makes any sense.
Title: Re: TEKTON SPEAKERS
Post by: P.I. on January 08, 2019, 01:04:28 PM
The first tikme I saw Tektons I thought how stupid they looked and had concerns about lobing and wondering who in their right mind would design a speaker with a tweeter array.

Then I heard a pair.  To say dumbfounded would be an understatement.  I kept listening for problems as I moved around the room, but all I got was music that was amazing in midrange and high frequency tonality and delicacy.  The bass to mid range hand off was way better than I expected and essentially seamless.

Effortless in a way that only a very few horn loaded speakers can be.

I have a client that has a pair of Double Impacts and the only other speakers that are on his list are Volti Aluras.  He loves his Tektons, but the Aluras are stunning pieces of work on every level.

I learned a lot the day I heard te Tektons...  Never say never.
Title: Re: TEKTON SPEAKERS
Post by: Folsom on January 08, 2019, 01:37:55 PM
Interesting
Title: Re: TEKTON SPEAKERS
Post by: HAL on January 08, 2019, 01:39:33 PM
I heard the smaller Tekton speakers in the Parasound room at RMAF2017 and was very happy with the way they sounded. 

The outer ring of tweeters is not covering the same bandwidth as the center tweeter.  More like a coaxial idea from the discussion.

Worth a listen.
Title: Re: TEKTON SPEAKERS
Post by: Nick B on January 08, 2019, 06:41:38 PM
I was quite interested in the Tektons within the last two years. Spoke with the designer, Eric, who at least on the one occasion we spoke, seemed rather disinterested. I then spoke with his assistant....his wife?...who was quite pleasant. I wanted to buy the standmount Impact Monitor and specifically mentioned I didn’t want a floorstanding model,  but was told on a couple of occasions that was not the proper speaker for my room.
I very much appreciate the manufacturer’s input on a purchase, but I wanted and needed a smaller speaker. Maybe I should have auditioned the Monitor nonetheless, but the interaction was a bit strange.
Title: Re: TEKTON SPEAKERS
Post by: P.I. on January 08, 2019, 08:29:31 PM
I was :( very surprised when I heard themin a home, not show setting.

I get the low moving mass midrange concept.  It makes perfect sense in retrospect.  Either you energize enough very low mass drivers enough to make magic or one low mass driver with an acoustic transformer (horn or waveguide) a small amount to create the wavefront.

Sorry to hear about your interaction, but let me tell you:  a good portion of my day is spent answering emails or phone calls.  When your ass is against the wall communication can be a very difficult and occasionally vexing. 

When one runs a very small audio business where all of your customer’s hair is on fire sometimes we are not at our best.  Personally this has come to roost here, ergo my semi-retirement from my semi-retirement.

For anyone I have pissed off in the past - I’m sorry. 
Title: Re: TEKTON SPEAKERS
Post by: Nick B on January 08, 2019, 08:50:48 PM
I was :( very surprised when I heard themin a home, not show setting.

I get the low moving mass midrange concept.  It makes perfect sense in retrospect.  Either you energize enough very low mass drivers enough to make magic or one low mass driver with an acoustic transformer (horn or waveguide) a small amount to create the wavefront.

Sorry to hear about your interaction, but let me tell you:  a good portion of my day is spent answering emails or phone calls.  When your ass is against the wall communication can be a very difficult and occasionally vexing. 

When one runs a very small audio business where all of your customer’s hair is on fire sometimes we are not at our best.  Personally this has come to roost here, ergo my semi-retirement from my semi-retirement.

For anyone I have pissed off in the past - I’m sorry.

Understand what you’re saying Dave and I don’t judge folks on just one interaction. Another forum member visited Tekton in person and his experience wasn’t the greatest. I’m not here to knock Tekton and we have a mostly fun, positive forum here. It’s just unfortunate that things transpired this way for me and that Tekton lost a sale because I was ready to buy those Impact Monitors. Had I done so, I wouldn’t be needing subs which I’m still thinking about.
Eric’s products get excellent reviews and I hope his sales are excellent.
Title: Re: TEKTON SPEAKERS
Post by: P.I. on January 09, 2019, 08:18:18 PM
I was :( very surprised when I heard themin a home, not show setting.

I get the low moving mass midrange concept.  It makes perfect sense in retrospect.  Either you energize enough very low mass drivers enough to make magic or one low mass driver with an acoustic transformer (horn or waveguide) a small amount to create the wavefront.

Sorry to hear about your interaction, but let me tell you:  a good portion of my day is spent answering emails or phone calls.  When your ass is against the wall communication can be a very difficult and occasionally vexing. 

When one runs a very small audio business where all of your customer’s hair is on fire sometimes we are not at our best.  Personally this has come to roost here, ergo my semi-retirement from my semi-retirement.

For anyone I have pissed off in the past - I’m sorry.

Understand what you’re saying Dave and I don’t judge folks on just one interaction. Another forum member visited Tekton in person and his experience wasn’t the greatest. I’m not here to knock Tekton and we have a mostly fun, positive forum here. It’s just unfortunate that things transpired this way for me and that Tekton lost a sale because I was ready to buy those Impact Monitors. Had I done so, I wouldn’t be needing subs which I’m still thinking about.
Eric’s products get excellent reviews and I hope his sales are excellent.
It is just a fact of life that there are some very bright and capable people out there that also have few or zero people skills.  Then there are some great people that build poor products.  It’s just the world we live in.
Title: Re: TEKTON SPEAKERS
Post by: Folsom on January 09, 2019, 09:08:44 PM
I've looked into them more. My assessment seems accurate. They tweeters destroy phase so they actually present a more macro sound that isn't bad. They are going to sound less like a recording.
Title: Re: TEKTON SPEAKERS
Post by: mfsoa on January 11, 2019, 06:14:22 PM
The Double Impact has only 1 tweeter in that array, at the center. The rest are midranges that play at frequencies that prevent lobing. Or so I understand.

I spent a long day with a pair at an owners house. This guy had replaced his KEF Blades (Twos?  ~ %17K / pr.) with the Double Impacts.

The owner loves his Digital Amp Co. Maraschinos and Tommy and I visited with a new Megaschino.

Re the sound quality and listening experience, I agree 100% with P.I.  All of it. All of the stuff that people are saying that sounds so hyperbolically over-the-top is true.

Quite a feat for $3K. A fun, outgoing, bold speaker but with manners that surprise given the visual shock of the speaker.

(BTW sounded absolutely stunning with the Megaschino in a large room)

-Mike

Title: Re: TEKTON SPEAKERS
Post by: Nick B on January 11, 2019, 06:44:40 PM
The Double Impact has only 1 tweeter in that array, at the center. The rest are midranges that play at frequencies that prevent lobing. Or so I understand.

I spent a long day with a pair at an owners house. This guy had replaced his KEF Blades (Twos?  ~ %17K / pr.) with the Double Impacts.

The owner loves his Digital Amp Co. Maraschinos and Tommy and I visited with a new Megaschino.

Re the sound quality and listening experience, I agree 100% with P.I.  All of it. All of the stuff that people are saying that sounds so hyperbolically over-the-top is true.

Quite a feat for $3K. A fun, outgoing, bold speaker but with manners that surprise given the visual shock of the speaker.

(BTW sounded absolutely stunning with the Maraschino in a large room)

-Mike

That’s quite an endorsement. I haven’t heard any Tektons at shows, but I did extensive research and the comments are as yours. Eric lives 3-4 hours from me in  northern Utah and maybe I’ll take a trip up there one of these days to hear those Impact Monitors
Title: Re: TEKTON SPEAKERS
Post by: mfsoa on January 11, 2019, 06:50:31 PM
Would be a fun trip!

[I corrected the post above from Maraschino to Mega at the end...]
Title: Re: TEKTON SPEAKERS
Post by: rollo on January 16, 2019, 08:36:00 AM
   Yes unconventional however the real deal. Hey maybe the designer is right and others are just wrong. At least a NEW design to hear.
   Would like to hear them with SET amps.


charles
Title: Re: TEKTON SPEAKERS
Post by: jimbones on January 16, 2019, 02:15:14 PM
As a speaker designer I've learned many rules of speaker design. do this, don't do that. Sometimes when you dont follow the rules you can still have a great sounding speaker. Many high end designs break the rules.
Title: Re: TEKTON SPEAKERS
Post by: Nick B on January 16, 2019, 04:17:28 PM
As a speaker designer I've learned many rules of speaker design. do this, don't do that. Sometimes when you dont follow the rules you can still have a great sounding speaker. Many high end designs break the rules.

I never knew you had that skill. Are your designs just for yourself or friends, customers etc. If you’re up to it, it would be nice to see some of your designs.
Title: Re: TEKTON SPEAKERS
Post by: jimbones on May 08, 2019, 11:45:23 AM
As a speaker designer I've learned many rules of speaker design. do this, don't do that. Sometimes when you dont follow the rules you can still have a great sounding speaker. Many high end designs break the rules.

I never knew you had that skill. Are your designs just for yourself or friends, customers etc. If you’re up to it, it would be nice to see some of your designs.

Nick, I used to do crude designs when I was in college, however in the past several years I have gotten better at it and the designs are primarily for my own listening pleasure. I believe that there is really no need for me to spend lots of money for someone else's speaker. Most good DIY people with an technical background will be able to make a good speaker. I have learned a great deal but I already had the wood working skill so it was just speaker know how that I needed. I had some good teachers along the way.   I can tell you it is an much art as it is science. There are some companies that take the scientific approach and the products suck, and there are those that are artisan  that create great speakers. I believe in a mix. i am working on a 2 1/2 way now and will post a thread.

Title: Re: TEKTON SPEAKERS
Post by: jimbones on May 08, 2019, 01:04:51 PM
Do it :)

If you want to discuss or maybe create a build thread to share your experience that would be interesting.
Title: Re: TEKTON SPEAKERS
Post by: Nick B on May 10, 2019, 08:36:30 AM
As a speaker designer I've learned many rules of speaker design. do this, don't do that. Sometimes when you dont follow the rules you can still have a great sounding speaker. Many high end designs break the rules.

I never knew you had that skill. Are your designs just for yourself or friends, customers etc. If you’re up to it, it would be nice to see some of your designs.

Nick, I used to do crude designs when I was in college, however in the past several years I have gotten better at it and the designs are primarily for my own listening pleasure. I believe that there is really no need for me to spend lots of money for someone else's speaker. Most good DIY people with an technical background will be able to make a good speaker. I have learned a great deal but I already had the wood working skill so it was just speaker know how that I needed. I had some good teachers along the way.   I can tell you it is an much art as it is science. There are some companies that take the scientific approach and the products suck, and there are those that are artisan  that create great speakers. I believe in a mix. i am working on a 2 1/2 way now and will post a thread.

Looking forward to your build, Jim.