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Systemic Development => Bipolar System Disorders => Topic started by: James Edward on May 08, 2017, 03:12:47 PM

Title: I Confess- I Used Loudness Contour and Liked It. I Also Flipped a Switch...
Post by: James Edward on May 08, 2017, 03:12:47 PM: I have a Luxman L-590AX MKII, and I was listening to Triumvirat's 'Spartacus' cd. It is rather thin sounding, so I hit the loudness button. So much more enjoyable. There, I said it. I was fervently attached to the 'Line Straight' setting on my amp. But my audiophile street cred is now shot.
Maybe even worse, I flipped the -2db switch on the back of my Legacy Focus SE's, and I'm enjoying the slight reduction.
These were separate incidents, unrelated to one another.
I feel better having told someone out there.
Thank you...
Title: Re: I Confess- I Used Loudness Contour and Liked It. I Also Flipped a Switch...
Post by: richidoo on May 08, 2017, 04:11:48 PM: Quote from: James Edward on May 08, 2017, 03:12:47 PM
But my audiophile street cred is now shot.

"You can check out anytime you like, but you can never leave...."

Welcome to the renegade outcast party! :beer: :lmc: :yay2:
Title: Re: I Confess- I Used Loudness Contour and Liked It. I Also Flipped a Switch...
Post by: rollo on May 09, 2017, 08:03:25 AM: Its OK Jim its OK. One gotta do what ones gotta do you know what I mean, eh.

charles
Title: Re: I Confess- I Used Loudness Contour and Liked It. I Also Flipped a Switch...
Post by: Nick B on May 09, 2017, 09:10:06 AM: Well, you have really crossed the line. The purist part of me is outraged.
I hope you really enjoy what you've done :roll: :thumb:
Nick
Title: Re: I Confess- I Used Loudness Contour and Liked It. I Also Flipped a Switch...
Post by: Bob in St. Louis on May 09, 2017, 04:13:30 PM: Hi. My name is Bob.
I use tone controls.
Bob.
Title: Re: I Confess- I Used Loudness Contour and Liked It. I Also Flipped a Switch...
Post by: James Edward on May 09, 2017, 04:20:35 PM: Thank you all for your kind words. The guilt and angst are still within me though, therefore I pledge to use the tone controls judiciously. Only when absolutely necessary.
I probably shouldn't say this, but I'm getting a turntable soon, and my amp also has a subsonic filter. And I may use it.
Too much, too soon?
Title: Re: I Confess- I Used Loudness Contour and Liked It. I Also Flipped a Switch...
Post by: Bob in St. Louis on May 09, 2017, 04:23:04 PM: Push forward James. Just let it happen. Relax and close your eyes if it helps.
Title: Re: I Confess- I Used Loudness Contour and Liked It. I Also Flipped a Switch...
Post by: richidoo on May 09, 2017, 05:22:48 PM: Quote from: James Edward on May 09, 2017, 04:20:35 PM
Too much, too soon?

Remember James, it's the cover-up, not the crime.
Title: Re: I Confess- I Used Loudness Contour and Liked It. I Also Flipped a Switch...
Post by: richidoo on May 09, 2017, 08:52:44 PM: "One still needs tone controls for serious listening" - says no greater authority than Floyd Toole himself, the patron saint of audio technique, just 3 weeks ago! I think that means you're absolved!

http://www.avsforum.com/forum/89-speakers/1454077-jbl-m2-master-reference-monitor-88.html#post52484753
Title: Re: I Confess- I Used Loudness Contour and Liked It. I Also Flipped a Switch...
Post by: mfsoa on May 12, 2017, 02:59:30 PM: I came up with a great idea that works:

If I want more bass, I turn the sub up.
If I want less bass, I turn the sub down.
Title: Re: I Confess- I Used Loudness Contour and Liked It. I Also Flipped a Switch...
Post by: Bob in St. Louis on May 12, 2017, 05:28:35 PM: What if you want less treble? ;)
Title: Re: I Confess- I Used Loudness Contour and Liked It. I Also Flipped a Switch...
Post by: richidoo on May 12, 2017, 05:36:40 PM: Quote from: Bob in St. Louis on May 12, 2017, 05:28:35 PM
What if you want less treble? ;)

Why, new cables, of course! ;)

And when that doesn't work, try the old "tissue paper over the tweeter" trick... :rofl:
(https://www.gearslutz.com/board/attachments/so-much-gear-so-little-time/105129d1230618415-correct-tissue-ns-10s-ns10tissue.jpg)
Title: Re: I Confess- I Used Loudness Contour and Liked It. I Also Flipped a Switch...
Post by: Bob in St. Louis on May 12, 2017, 05:38:47 PM: :rofl: True on both counts!
Touche'
Title: Re: I Confess- I Used Loudness Contour and Liked It. I Also Flipped a Switch...
Post by: rajacat on May 13, 2017, 09:27:53 AM: Quote from: Bob in St. Louis on May 12, 2017, 05:28:35 PM
What if you want less treble? ;)

Use a pair of these.
(https://www.madisoundspeakerstore.com/images/products/preview/r100t2.jpg)
Title: Re: I Confess- I Used Loudness Contour and Liked It. I Also Flipped a Switch...
Post by: Bob in St. Louis on May 13, 2017, 09:39:31 AM: It's ok since they don't say "treble", they say "attenuator" instead.
"Audiophile approved". :rofl:
Title: Re: I Confess- I Used Loudness Contour and Liked It. I Also Flipped a Switch...
Post by: rajacat on May 13, 2017, 11:09:35 AM: Quote from: Bob in St. Louis on May 13, 2017, 09:39:31 AM
It's ok since they don't say "treble", they say "attenuator" instead.
"Audiophile approved". :rofl:
So are you saying all attenuators are created equal or you can't hear the difference? :roll: :-P
Title: Re: I Confess- I Used Loudness Contour and Liked It. I Also Flipped a Switch...
Post by: Bob in St. Louis on May 13, 2017, 11:25:51 AM: Ouch. No, just that it's ok as long as it doesn't say "bass" or "treble". ;)
Title: Re: I Confess- I Used Loudness Contour and Liked It. I Also Flipped a Switch...
Post by: steve on May 17, 2017, 05:11:36 AM: Quote from: Bob in St. Louis on May 12, 2017, 05:28:35 PM
What if you want less treble? ;)

Hi Bob,

Depending upon how much highs one wishes to rid of, a little zobel across the speaker terminals might do the trick. It will take some time to figure out the proper R and C values.

Cheers
Steve